Regular and Modded Versa owners

[audtatious]

As this subject took another thread OT, here is a thread just for it.

Regular as in the people who don't mod their Versa. I see plenty of them on the road and I, personally, never see anyone driving a modded V.

So, as the vast majority do not mod their Versa, or any vehicle for that matter, does that make the non-modded owner superior or something? I'm trying to get a handle on the mentality I have seen in here from time to time where anyone who wants to modify their stock/non-performance oriented vehicle is not welcomed here for some reason. Or am I just reading things wrong?

[Red Devil]

As this subject took another thread OT, here is a thread just for it.

So, as the vast majority do not mod their Versa, or any vehicle for that matter, does that make the non-modded owner superior or something? I'm trying to get a handle on the mentality I have seen in here from time to time where anyone who wants to modify their stock/non-performance oriented vehicle is not welcomed here for some reason. Or am I just reading things wrong?

This thread can only go bad but here goes. I think you're reading things wrong. People seem to misunderstand that I think no one should mod their cars or that I'm a better owner because I don't. Completely not the case. Everyone has the right to do what they want with their money/car. I don't feel that I'm a better person because I choose to leave my vehicle stock. I just enjoy my vehicle the way it is, just as others enjoy modding their cars to their liking. No superiority issue at all honestly.

[audtatious]

Good, because that's exactly the way it should be. Sure, the Versa is a enono-car but so are a lot of vehicles that are modded today. Nothing wrong with it.

I have no issue with anyone doing what they want with their cars, be it stock or modded. Their choice and, sometimes, their personal expression.

As far as the direction of this thread? It won't go in a bad direction as long as the topic is discussed and there are no attacks. If things go in the wrong direction then I'll take care of it

[Reed19x]

Change the name of the thread to "Regular and Modded Versa Owners". There's no "versus"...at the end of the day we all own/drive/love these cars...in any shape or form. It takes more energy to post a negative comment than to simply ignore a post with a mod in it that you may personally not like. Just save the energy, skip the comment, and ultimately allow the thread to grow instead of spiral into a war of words. Constructive criticism helps the community grow and gives us more interesting things to talk about...destructive criticism doesn't...it leads to bickering and sometimes drives people away. I personally have been turned away from buying a Versa for myself because the community just seems extremely negative, I regret trading in my G37 for my girl's Versa every time I see someone get bashed for doing something simple like painting their calipers/drums.

Whether your Versa says this: or this we are all part of the Versa family, and part of the larger Nissan family..try to make it a fun community...lest we become like the Honda guys

For a great community, check out the Scion community Scikotics...they got it right, and they only have 3 models in their line up!

[blindsnyper]

Change the name of the thread to "Regular and Modded Versa Owners". There's no "versus"...at the end of the day we all own/drive/love these cars...in any shape or form. It takes more energy to post a negative comment than to simply ignore a post with a mod in it that you may personally not like. Just save the energy, skip the comment, and ultimately allow the thread to grow instead of spiral into a war of words. Constructive criticism helps the community grow and gives us more interesting things to talk about...destructive criticism doesn't...it leads to bickering and sometimes drives people away. I personally have been turned away from buying a Versa for myself because the community just seems extremely negative, I regret trading in my G37 for my girl's Versa every time I see someone get bashed for doing something simple like painting their calipers/drums.

Whether your Versa says this: or this we are all part of the Versa family, and part of the larger Nissan family..try to make it a fun community...lest we become like the Honda guys

QFT

[grogman]

my feeling is , like the previous replies, to each his/her own. i asked once if putting a new exhaust will void the warranty no reply. same goes with oversized wheels and doesn't tint fade and bubble and crack? aren't alot of the aftermarket parts junk. this forum is great for learning new ideas but sometimes issues are never answered. so in the meantime my onyx blue hb will remain stock until the warranty is over. this car desperately needs the 2.0 l engine. out.

[audtatious]

Good posts and I'm glad to see them. There has seemed to have been an issue in the past with members getting grief for threads about modifications. If that is no longer an issue then we are good to go.

No, new exhaust will not void the warranty and neither will replacing rims.

[Red Devil]

Good posts and I'm glad to see them. There has seemed to have been an issue in the past with members getting grief for threads about modifications. If that is no longer an issue then we are good to go.

No, new exhaust will not void the warranty and neither will replacing rims.

The only way you'll void the wrranty is if something breaks and your mod caused that particular damage somehow. Unless it's written into the contract a la GT-R launch control then that's the only way to void it.

[rwanttaja]

The only way you'll void the wrranty is if something breaks and your mod caused that particular damage somehow.

The problem is, the burden of proof is on the car owner, not on the dealership. Your only option is to sue, and in the meantime you're either out the money to get the thing repaired yourself, or are stuck with a broken car for the months (or years) the case takes to go through the legal system.

Ron

[iluvmyVersa08]

my feeling is , like the previous replies, to each his/her own. i asked once if putting a new exhaust will void the warranty no reply. same goes with oversized wheels and doesn't tint fade and bubble and crack? aren't alot of the aftermarket parts junk. this forum is great for learning new ideas but sometimes issues are never answered. so in the meantime my onyx blue hb will remain stock until the warranty is over. this car desperately needs the 2.0 l engine. out.

As for the tint question, my previous car I had tinted and it was perfect. Never had any problems with it bubbling or fading or peeling.So I had my Versa tinted by the same company, and after about 4 months of having the tint on, the two front doors' tint started to peel from the bottom up. The company is not sure why this happened.However, I went with a company that offered a lifetime warranty on the film and they took out that film and put in new film for me for FREE So if anything happens to any of the other windows they will do the same. Tint adds a nice touch to a car and if you go to a tint shop they generally will do a good job. Try to find a place that offers you some sort of warranty on the film, and as long as you take care of it the way they tell you to then it should be okay. It's a modification that is somewhat cheap but looks great, imo!

[audtatious]

Depends. If you FI the car and the motor blows then you are absolutely correct. If you put on an aftermarket exhaust and the motor throws codes a year later then the Service Dept tries to blame it on the exhaust mods then you can easily push this to resolution. In the FI case, the motor warranty is void as may be the transmission and such at a later date. In the exhaust scenario the only void is for the factory exhaust. Realize that replacing any part with something other than OEM could conceivably void that particular portion of the warranty if Nissan should so choose to press the issue.

Here is a good overview:

http://www.impalaclub.com/naisso/magmoss.htm

[Johniboi]

Why cant we all just get along

[1_Sleek_Versa]

"Why keep it stock when you can make it rock!"

^^^^^^ From versaspeed site.

[audtatious]

Why cant we all just get along

That's the intention, get everything out on the table so we can all go forward.

[Onyxblue]

Of course, Red Devil is unique with his non-modded choice.

I would suggest a poll - who owns a modded versa and who owns a non-modded versa.

Hey Audtations - let's create that poll and see who is the majority in the V forum - I am sure most of us are non- Red Devil "colleagues"

[Red Devil]

Of course, Red Devil is unique with his non-modded choice.

I would suggest a poll - who owns a modded versa and who owns a non-modded versa.

Hey Audtations - let's create that poll and see who is the majority in the V forum - I am sure most of us are non- Red Devil "colleagues"

You won't really get any accurate results. You're polling an internet forum whose bulk membership modify their cars. I'm sure there are a large amount of people who own a V and have never heard of nicoclub or an internet forum for that matter. I know I'm not "unique" in choosing not to mod my V, just in the minority on this forum. I can't be the only one who sees countless stock V's all the time when I drive.

Don't know why you decided to turn this into a semi-personal attack, but it's not called for and I think your post should be deleted in accordance with the new view on posting.
Modified by Red Devil at 8:42 PM 4/19/2009

[audtatious]

Hey Audtations - let's create that poll and see who is the majority in the V forum - I am sure most of us are non- Red Devil "colleagues"

Not the point of this thread in the least. I don't care if there are more modded or stock members, just that everyone stops being b****y about one or the other.

[VersaMG08]

Not the point of this thread in the least. I don't care if there are more modded or stock members, just that everyone stops being b****y about one or the other.

I agree. This bickering and conflicts of interest needs to stop. It's really going to hinder enthusiasts away from even logging on these forums. Seriously, it's more entertaining to see what kind of ideas and creativeness people have with modding their V compared to keeping it stock. Having a stock V is boring and that contradicts the purpose of this site mostly.

I mean, Red Devil, you could at least tint the windows or put some seat covers and call that a mod if you want. Having a stock V is not unique, it's a choice, for whatever reason. It's just getting out of hand when your opinions are negative and it drives away people from here.

[audtatious]

Well said.

[Red Devil]

I agree. This bickering and conflicts of interest needs to stop. It's really going to hinder enthusiasts away from even logging on these forums. Seriously, it's more entertaining to see what kind of ideas and creativeness people have with modding their V compared to keeping it stock. Having a stock V is boring and that contradicts the purpose of this site mostly.

I mean, Red Devil, you could at least tint the windows or put some seat covers and call that a mod if you want. Having a stock V is not unique, it's a choice, for whatever reason. It's just getting out of hand when your opinions are negative and it drives away people from here.

I thought the purpose of this site was to bring owners together and discuss their vehicles, wether they be stock or modded correct? Wether that includes modifying, troubleshooting, e.t.c. is secondary to the main function of the site.

I find it hard to believe that my occasional "negative" opinions stifle creativity and drive away potential members. And furthermore, I don't try to start conflicts. I try to express my opinion in a clear, respectful manner. The problem, which seemed to take root way back with the whole Russianbull debacle, is when people go and say I can't express my opinion because it isn't positive.

When someone comes in and asks a question about modding, wether it be adding forced induction, installing HID's, e.t.c., I'm going to give them a honest answer. Wether it's perceived as negative isn't something I can control.

Not picking on you MHV, but your post brings me to a problem/question, a conundrum if you will. Who says a stock owner can't express themselves on here? Why does the opinion exist that you have to have a modded V to be on this forum? Who says a stock V is boring? I do CHOOSE to leave my V stock. I'm not going to put tint or mod it just to do it. I leave my V stock because I want to. I don't mod my V because I don't feel the need to express myself that way. I, personally, have better things to spend that money on.

1. I'm going to buy a house soon. I need to use at least 2/3rds of my bank account for this purpose. I'm probably done modding my 240 for a while because of this as well.

2. I have to fix my girlfriends 96 Sentra. BOTH CV joints and wheel bearings went bad. Got the right side done Saturday, hopefully the weather will be agreeable for tomorrow to get the left side done. FYI, don't let the wheel bearings go bad for a while. Because of it overheating when it goes bad, trying to get the second half(outer ring) of a bearing pressed out from inside the steering knuckle isn't fun when the inner parts pop out.

Right now, at this point in time. I don't want, furthermore NEED, to be doing any modding to my cars, that includes the V and 240. It's my choice to stay stock(V) and people should respect that.

[VersaMG08]

The purpose of this site is to talk about your Nissan, your issues, questions, concerns. Simply, it's been getting too personal on the forums whether people should mod or not and people are tired of it and want to get along easily without lashing out.

That's cool you're buying a house. I have no plans to get a house until I get a g/f that's 'the one' then get married or i'll never buy a house. That's how I see it.

I've been pretty stressed out and concerned that I have 3 months of college left then graduation and looking for a job. I'm in the process of that and will probably move out of Colorado, hopefully. It's a big decision I've never done before and I want it to flow smooth afterwards without hassle. Besides that, nothing else is stopping me from doing what I like doing to my V.

[rwanttaja]

You won't really get any accurate results. You're polling an internet forum whose bulk membership modify their cars. I'm sure there are a large amount of people who own a V and have never heard of nicoclub or an internet forum for that matter.

Consider, too, that people find this forum as a result of a search. What are they searching for? In some cases, people are looking for modification help, but the rest are looking for solutions to what they think are unusual problems.

Unfortunately, to the people who have been on this forum for a while, the questions are often ones we've seen before. So when a guy posts that "the auto-up for the driver's side window quit working," you'll get one person posting how to fix it, and a half-dozen screaming that it's a well-known problem and why didn't the idiot think of hitting the search key.

LOVELY way to encourage participation.

As one of the early adopters (July 2006) but low milers (only 24,000 miles), I have had a good opportunity to benefit from watching other owners "rush off ahead" to get an idea of what problems I might expect in the future. I suffered a raft of TPMS problems, and it was someone in this group who posted the Nissan Service bulletin that gave me the ammunition to get my dealership to do more than reset it. I had a CD jam in my SL's player, and someone posted a great photo-essay on how to remove, disassemble, and fix the problem. Just the warnings about not unplugging the airbag light are worth the price of admission (which was free, anyway, but you get the idea).

I have no interest in cosmetic or performance mods. Utility mods I'm more open to...if someone can discover how to easily make the power port in the console live when the ignition is turned off, I'm all ears. In my younger days, I did a little bit of cosmetic modding. No interest in it now. My Versa exists to haul my rear end to and from work, comfortably and with reasonable economy. Period. If someone else wants to tart theirs up, that's fine.

About the only thing I *would* ask is that folks use more descriptive subject lines when they start a thread. Face it, a subject line saying "Question" is pretty stupid. If the subject describes what the posting is about ("Question about custom wheels"), then people who don't care about modding or don't want to read newbie questions will know better than to click through.

Ron

[audtatious]

Not picking on you MHV, but your post brings me to a problem/question, a conundrum if you will. Who says a stock owner can't express themselves on here? Why does the opinion exist that you have to have a modded V to be on this forum? Who says a stock V is boring? I do CHOOSE to leave my V stock. I'm not going to put tint or mod it just to do it. I leave my V stock because I want to. I don't mod my V because I don't feel the need to express myself that way. I, personally, have better things to spend that money on.

There is no reason a stock owner can't express themselves on here. What's funny is from browsing posts on here the last year or so I saw it the other way and perceived that those who mod their Versa gets negative comments from others. It's all perception and the big picture is "who cares" that someone is choosing to mod or not mod their cars. I'll help someone with a stock problem (do it all the time) while trying to help a member try and figure out a mod or a path to get where they want to be. This is a community and you have all kinds in the community, just like you can't pick your parents or siblings

I'm not knocking either side, I just want all the squabbling to stop and people to enjoy the company of others with the same vehicle. There is a reason all of us are here.

[audtatious]

Unfortunately, to the people who have been on this forum for a while, the questions are often ones we've seen before. So when a guy posts that "the auto-up for the driver's side window quit working," you'll get one person posting how to fix it, and a half-dozen screaming that it's a well-known problem and why didn't the idiot think of hitting the search key.

This forum is nowhere near as bad as others. Think of the poor 240sx forum where every teenager for the last 10 years have asked the same questions over and over after they bought their first car

Common questions can easily be handled via a FAQ thread, on the Nissan Tech page (under Versa) or/and on the nissanversa homepage if necessary. All we need is members in the community to step up and help get things together.

[Red Devil]

There is no reason a stock owner can't express themselves on here. What's funny is from browsing posts on here the last year or so I saw it the other way and perceived that those who mod their Versa gets negative comments from others. It's all perception and the big picture is "who cares" that someone is choosing to mod or not mod their cars. I'll help someone with a stock problem (do it all the time) while trying to help a member try and figure out a mod or a path to get where they want to be. This is a community and you have all kinds in the community, just like you can't pick your parents or siblings

I'm not knocking either side, I just want all the squabbling to stop and people to enjoy the company of others with the same vehicle. There is a reason all of us are here.

I think it also has a lot to do with how they handle criticism. Take Russianbull for example. I first tried to do constructive criticism on his unique modifications to his V. I then received a few comments from members b****ing me out for expressing my opinion. A few of them still harbor a grudge because of my opinion in the modification area. Russianbull also reacted negatively, further escalating hostilities. As much as I or any other person should respect the modifier, the modifier needs to respect the critique of the poster to a certain degree.

[Promise Land]

I have 3 months of college left then graduation and looking for a job.

What is your major and where do you plan to go? I left CO in '99 after living there for 18 years. You will always get questions about "Do you ski?" or "How culd you leave such a great place?". Meh... Let them live in the snow for a couple of years. You won't miss it...

[frankoV]

Meh... Let them live in the snow for a couple of years. You won't miss it...

Are you jiving me? [just had the urge to be retro].

No snow? Especially for Christmas? No way!!!

[Rockhound]

I regret trading in my G37 for my girl's Versa...

Say what? You traded in a G37 for your girlfriend's Versa? Does. Not. Compute.

So when a guy posts that "the auto-up for the driver's side window quit working," you'll get one person posting how to fix it, and a half-dozen screaming that it's a well-known problem and why didn't the idiot think of hitting the search key.

LOVELY way to encourage participation.

A little off topic, but I feel the same way as you. I got into a bit of a heated discussion several years ago with a mod on a separate Sentra bulletin board back in the day, as he was a proponent of the "flame the newbie" mentality. If someone asked a question that had already been answered, he would lock the thread, but not before explaining the search function in excruciating detial (in a hostile tone).

My argument was that the forum membership is constantly in flux, with a core group that sticks around. Once many folks get answers to their questions, they leave, content with things as they are, especially if they only get "SEARCH NEWB!!!" replies. I mean, past a certain point, how many discreet questions can be asked about a particular car? If we were to shut posting down to completely new, unique topics, the forum would become a ghost town, you know?

For most questions it takes about as much time to type the answer as it does to make a post telling the individual to search for it. A little tact goes a long way in making this community more inviting to newcomers.

[VersaMG08]

What is your major and where do you plan to go? I left CO in '99 after living there for 18 years. You will always get questions about "Do you ski?" or "How culd you leave such a great place?". Meh... Let them live in the snow for a couple of years. You won't miss it...

My major is a Bachelor's in Game Art & Design. Basically, when I finish I can get a job in the game industry, graphics design company, advertising company, or architectural design. I'm in the process of working on my portfolio, when complete will be submited online on my website. My resume and coverletter I have to touch up.

I'm more than willing to move out of Colorado, tired of winter and snow. I'd like to move to Cali but it's expensive. Possibly look into Arizona, Nevada, Texas, Florida, South/North Carolina... I will let you guys know when I make the move. As that takes place, whoever lives close by, we could have a car meet from there.

[APEXi240]

Having a stock V is boring and that contradicts the purpose of this site mostly.

So...I should leave then?