I have the California bill of sale/transfer doc from IVI, DOT HS-7, export cert (with translation), EPA 3520-1, and a letter from the NHTSA confirming my car is legal and all the Fed papers are originals stamped with the customs release but yeah, they're making me jump through hoops unlike in your case.syc wrote:I didn't register in Arizona, but I had to give my inspection sheet, export cert, customs paperwork which had the hs7 and the epa one.. forgot the name of it.. after that, they verified my mileage and gave me a title that said odometer mileage unknown, lol.. because it's in km.
i'm not sure what a level 2 inspection sheet differs from a regular inspection sheet.
Yeah, I'm from Yuma lol. I guess you're the guy IVI mentioned to me that picked up the Pao for Arizona. Small world lol. I didn't get to see that car at their facility so I'm curious what it's like. Cool that someone gave it a good home.AZhitman wrote:We're in the same boat - I just got my Pao, and am dealing with the same nonsense. Are you the guy in Yuma?
I'd chalk it up to AZ DMV not being adequately prepared / trained for the 25-year imports.
Let's update this thread as we go, as I intend to do a how-to article once we're all cleared, to hopefully help future owners through the process.
Congrats on the new ride, welcome aboard, and let's see that R32!
Yeah, the concept that Japan doesn't have titles seems to make their mind lock up. I had to explain this to the guy at the title place as well that THERE IS NO JAPANESE TITLE. The Export cert basically states this car is legal for export and no, it's not stolen.AZhitman wrote:Yep - IVI updated me this morning, the supervisor at the DMV here was just pulling stuff out of her a$$, babbling about "original owner" (like it matters) and needing proof that the car wasn't stolen. <SMH>
She asked me, "Where's the title and bill of sale?" I asked her if she had a title for her toaster - because that's exactly how vehicles are dealt with in other countries.
Thanks for posting that contact info. I'll try and call her today and see if I can get clarification then go back to DMV next week if she confirms a level II isn't needed. My only issue is that I don't have a bill of lading - IVI explained to me it's because the car was brought in from Canada so no BOL. All my US paperwork is stamped as released by Customs in Washington when the car was brought over and I have a California bill of sale from IVI. I'll see what she says about that.AZhitman wrote:You don't need a L2. Bill of Lading = bill of sale. We went through all this.
I forgot to update this thread, but I went in for a L1, took my BOL document, went straight to the counter, got my reg and plates, and am all legal.
If they'd like to contact the supervisor here, she can set them straight. Trish 602-771-2422
I talked to IVI about it and they said I shouldn't need the bill of lading - my California bill of sale should be enough. I also talked to Trish and she gave me the name for the supervisor at my local DMV and advised me to go back and ask for her by name. She was very helpful so I'm gonna head back on Tuesday and see what they say after I tell them what we talked about.AZhitman wrote:Excellent.
Ah. That changes things. Yep, you might be on the hook for some delay.
If you can see how much grief the DMV is giving me over a Skyline with FULL paperwork including letters from the NHTSA saying my specific car is legal I'd walk away from that deal quickly. Even if you can somehow get a title from the local DMV that doesn't mean the Feds won't take issue. People have had their Skylines seized by the Feds for less.SamDili wrote:Hello my name is sam
I want to apologize for being a noob and yes I have a used the search button but I am in a weird situation. Sorry for thread jacking. I have been interested in skylines since I first saw one in the fast and furious movies. I have investigated into how to import and register a skyline but after all the dead ends I gave up. Finally the 25 year rule came out and now I have a chance.
I have a friend of a friend who bought a 91 r32 gtst from an auction in Canada and some how got it over the border and has sat for many years. He's in a problem and needs money. I can pick it up for a descent price. Only few problems. He has no paperwork absolutely nothing at all. He said he will look but not sure if he has anything. I will be bringing it from the states away to Arizona. I have applied for a bonded title and registered an old truck but obviously it was American origin. Anyone have any idea on how should I go about titling and registering this skyline? Regular mvd (dmv in az) or third party?
Thanks for the help.
You need to be careful with any Skyline sold privately here in the US especially in California where technically they shouldn't be legal without a lot of crap to wade through to meet CARB compliance. If that car really is legal here in the US (I'm not saying it can't be, just that there are a lot of ones out there that aren't) then the owner should have the paperwork to back it up. Remember, for a Skyline to be legal here it has to have proof that it's been okayed by BOTH the Feds and state DMV. A state title only assures you it was okayed by your State but doesn't necessarily prove it was brought in legally per the Feds since a lot of black market cars have been titled through questionable means.08550 wrote:sorry guys for bumping this thread... i been on nico forums for a while.. and recently went to a honeymoons.. and i am getting a skyline next week . here it a catch , the skyline im getting is r32 and the build year is 1989 . and the owner said he got the title and the pink slip for it ,and it 26 years old , and he said the car it full legal with california , and he took it to get emission , and he got recent tag for it and also he is driving it on the street, and if he sell it to me .. he will get me a bill of sale and fully signed on the release of the ownership on the car... and he does have an california title , so my questions is .. will i have any problems ? I DONT SEEMS TO see if their is any problems since the car is fully a US car now and it driven on the street . i mean it have to be legal to drive it on the street and the last state u wanna drive it is CALIFORNIA... so any input guys ?
If it's legit then yeah, that car is definitely a keeper but that's IF it was legitimately registered and titled with all the paperwork to back it up so that the new owner doesn't get in trouble with either local LE or the Feds. When I bought my R32 IVI was in the middle of trying to legalize a Nismo for California and they had had to adopt emissions equipment from another type of vehicle to try and meet Cali's requirements. At the time they were still getting the car ready so I'm not sure if they succeeded.CodyLovesSubie wrote:I may be a noob here but I have been doing TONS of research when it comes to getting a JDM car into California, and let me tell you, if this guy does indeed have a California title and a smog certificate, that thing is worth its weight in gold
I'm not too surprised given my own experience - the first clerk I talked to asked about a "certified translation" too but the supervisor didn't bother asking for one and was okay with the one I provided. As for the stamp, mine had them because it crossed in from Canada but a lot of port entries don't have them anymore because of paperless entry like it says here in the HS-7 description from IVI's website:sevenscars wrote:Im having similar bureaucratic run-arounds as well in Texas. I have made two trips to the local office to be rejected for one reason or another. At the latest, they wanted a complete 'certified' copy of translated export certificate and was giving me grief for not having a 'stamp' on my hs-7 form. Should get my 'certified' translation next week and will have to argue the "stamp" issue --wish me luck.
Congrats on successfully registering your car! I'm not surprised your local DMV was such a PITA after my own experience. They can be so massively anal. Enjoy your car and drive safe! Oh and don't forget to post pics here on NICO if you haven't already lol.sevenscars wrote:Thanks for the info GSX-R35! I finally got plates for my GTR. However, they still did not like the fact that translated copy had full company name as previous owner and original had abbreviated version. They even said my title request may be audited later. We will see I guess? Just happy to be able to drive it around now.
Whereabouts in AZ are you located? Send me a PM and I can point you in the right direction for help. Also, if you haven't already, check out my blog for tips on getting an R32 imported and registered (popular links are on the right side or you can click the "registration" and "importation" tags in the tag list).mk3design wrote:Just won my auction last week, just waiting for the car to be shipped! Awesome to see some others in AZ who have gone through this process - I'd love to know the exact DMV's you guys went to? So I can go to someone with at least a little bit of experience in this.