Region/Company Partiality

Post by **Former_240_s14** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

Just a thought..........

Do you all think we are partial to the products that are sold only in our region compared to ones that are used in actually contest db drags and so on?

I would like to think I am impartial to a regional discression, but I could be wrong...........

Post by **Dano** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

i dunno, im too tired, but i wish we had more places that sold Eclipse and MB Quart here...

-Dan

Post by **fiznat** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

well to be honest, I havnt really looked in stores all that much for parts... I use the internet to read up on what I would like, to find the correct product, and to eventually buy it. If I find a shop locally that has the parts I want (based on reviews and price, I guess), then I suppose I'll buy them there... but for now I guess my choice of parts is based much more in the merits of the parts themselves rather than what's available in my area. Thanks, internet!!

Post by **Former_240_s14** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

240sx2nr95 wrote:i dunno, im too tired, but i wish we had more places that sold Eclipse and MB Quart here...

-Dan

See, thats the thing......I have not liked MB Quart for years now, they are way overpriced for their quality IMHO and I would rather have a pair of JL's or Alpine's any day of the week...........

now is that cause those two company's are advertised more here or is it just personal preference............or even again maybe its a combination......I would like to think its just personal preference........

Post by **Dano** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

im fine with alpine/eclipse, thats wat my setup is gonna be...unless i can get some stuff for CHEAP, REAL CHEAP..which probly wont happen...

-Dan(tired)

Post by **Former_240_s14** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

fiznat wrote:well to be honest, I havnt really looked in stores all that much for parts... I use the internet to read up on what I would like, to find the correct product, and to eventually buy it. If I find a shop locally that has the parts I want (based on reviews and price, I guess), then I suppose I'll buy them there... but for now I guess my choice of parts is based much more in the merits of the parts themselves rather than what's available in my area. Thanks, internet!!

but again, don't you have to worry about partiality again by the effect of advertising for that site???

how can someone be TOTALLY biased when trying to research and pick out what is right for him.......maybe there will always be an influence on his pick......

same thing goes for looks/quality, just because some speakers look "Cool" or whatever, somepeople who are not educated enough on systems will pick them just for looks...............

this is going exactly where i want to!!!!!!! keep brining your ideas up........

Post by **fiznat** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

well I think that's mainly the point of these forums. an inexperienced shopper can look first at the car audio/entertainment/security FAQ (ahem. cough, cough...) for some basic info and a breakdown of what to look for, and start from there.

Of course it's impossible to avoid partiality, but I think a resourceful member of NICO has a good fighting chance to learn as much as possible before finding what he wants. It should always be in this order: learn about your options, pick a product, find a price... that last step can be done locally or online-- whichever turns out easier and cheaper...

Post by **fiznat** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

...heh of course... I have to advocate buying locally. I donno I think it's my dad who got this into me way back when, but after all your online research and price digging, I REALLY think people should go to their local stores and see if they can hammer out a similar deal before whipping out the credit cards and waiting for the UPS truck. All of this internet shopping really hurts local bisnuesses, places I beleive are more useful than a lot of people take them for. NICO is nice, but going down to your local car guy and asking him to physically look at something for you and just shoot the s*** with em is priceless. Keep that in mind, too.

Post by **Former_240_s14** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

I can not agree more about how its "impossible to avoid partiality", and maybe partiality isn't always a bad thing......

at least our NICO community does have a good base to start at......, I wish I woulda when I first started into the Audio phase

Post by **Former_240_s14** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

fiznat wrote:...heh of course... I have to advocate buying locally. I donno I think it's my dad who got this into me way back when, but after all your online research and price digging, I REALLY think people should go to their local stores and see if they can hammer out a similar deal before whipping out the credit cards and waiting for the UPS truck. All of this internet shopping really hurts local bisnuesses, places I beleive are more useful than a lot of people take them for. NICO is nice, but going down to your local car guy and asking him to physically look at something for you and just shoot the s*** with em is priceless. Keep that in mind, too.

So true, oh so true!

But only IF you can find someone credible enough to work/inspect your vehicle.

Internet shopping does hurt, but it makes monopolizing in small communities, hell, even big ones at that almost impossible! If they are jacking up the prices, you can always bash them down with internet jargain, sometimes it works, sometimes it dosen't......

Post by **fiznat** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

oh yeah no doubt-- with the internet and all these resources here for people, the consumer definetly has the advantage nowadays. If somebody is buying one product or another just because its the first thing he saw on the shelf, or because some shady local dealer convinced him it's awesome, that's honestly the fault of the buyer. If he's too lazy to get out there and look at all the information that is spread out in front of him, then I dont think he can complain about getting an inferior or more expensive product. If you're buying something today, homework really DOES pay off..

Post by **Former_240_s14** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

Yes! Especially when it comes to amplifiers if you ask me!! There are soooooo many b.s. companies rating their amplifiers at 1000watts, 750, etc etc, and if you put up my old kicker zr 120, it will outpush most of the cheaper "in terms of money" higher power amps!

Post by **redrocket** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

Well IMO on this matter I like to think its personal Pref. but who knows I do know my system is by far not regionally decided I went with what I thought sounded good and I have not been displeased at all but I haven't tried the combination of my subs with my highs my subs were in Red after I got her but were taken out and never used since

I have 2 orion cobalt DVC 10's in sealed truck boxes with and alpine v12 ampand my highs I have CV's all the way around I like them but they need a lot more power

around here most every has either jl's, kickers or pioneer subs

So I definetly know mine is personal pref.

Post by **bigE** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

Everyone around here runs what Best Buy, or Circuit City sells, them, If I was gonna buy from any of those places, I would buy from Hi-Fi, but eveyrone around here thinks they're too exspensive, before I got into the business, I would find a local shop to deal with, I'd go in and check them out, see their attitude, see their work, basically scope them out. There is a lot of very good shops out here in my area, but there are a lot of bad ones. One of freinds had dropped his car off at one overnight, only to spot them driving it around in it, and they denied it, but we had the video footage.

The way I have basicall ydone it was to try it all out, I change my setup between 2 to 3 times a year, only way to find out what works and sounds the best. Plus getting in good with local shops is always good.

But around here it is the local ricers run Pioneer or Kenwood subs, because of the often buy one get one free deals. The guys that spend more money run Kicker, Eclipse, Audiobahn, and Alpine.

It really depends on what companies are focusing on which regions, that you see more of their product.

Eric

Post by **InstantRice** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:37 pm

Everyone around here uses JL audio or audiobahn. Its because our Hi-Fi buy(s) only seems to deal in JL audio for Subs. They sell the occasional Kenwood and Eclipse. Since Hi-Fi buys is considered the "authority" on car audio because of reputation/Word of mouth JL has somewhat forced regional partiality down here. This area is really affluent to so they Jack the price on everything. But, for some reason people continue to buy. People with too much money, too little brain cells. The majority of the people who run JL down here are uninformed and try to compete in spl contests with there 10w3's. (bias?)

My group of friends use alpine r's, and Kickers or audi's for spl contests. When i was in High School everyone seemed to think i was broke azz because i was using Elemental Designs and Adire audio, which just look like off brands to the uninformed.

All areas probably have some kind of regional partiality.

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