Red Sox (all the way baby)

[Tino]

Just chiming in here to say yankees suck and red sox rock! :ylsuper

Hopefully it's our year.

ps: sorry cubs

[fiznat]

no hopefully, it IS the year!!! GOOOOOOOOOOO SOX!!!!

Pedro and Clemmens rematch tomorrow night. I cant wait.

yeah and jeez I feel real sorry for the cubs, I wanted them to win REAL bad.... stupid marlins.. who cares about that team anyhow?

[Mr1der]

goddamn fish....

[Nathan]

Hey, the Marlins have my man Pudge!

[Mr1der]

they also have a shortstop nicknamed seabass...

[BuudWeizErr]

You want a dramatic game? Watch NY and Boston tomorrow. I cannot wait. It is pretty much the game to end all games. There will not be a better game for years to come than the game we will see tomorrow.

I can't wait to see the after effects of the game tomorrow, despite who wins.

I hate the Yankees with a passion, and I want with all of my heart for them to win tomorrow, but a part of me would feel bad for Clemens if he lost tomorrow. He should have been a lifer. There are some players who just were not supposed to play for any other team than the Red Sox. And Clemens would still be wearing red if he hadn't gotten greedy. I would be sorry to see him lose the last game of his career to the Red Sox, but I REALLY want to see the Red Sox crush him.

You know what... forget that. He got greedy, crush the bastard. Go Sox.

As for the Cubs vs Marlins... I feel bad for them. No one knows what the feel like like the Red Sox players and their fans. They had the series. It was theirs. I wonder if that fan really was the turning point.

hmm.... GO SOX!

[I H8 UR DSM]

And Clemens would still be wearing red if he hadn't gotten greedy. I would be sorry to see him lose the last game of his career to the Red Sox, but I REALLY want to see the Red Sox crush him.

I hope your not really that retarded....Its a well know, publicized fact that the Redsox didnt 'want' to keep him. And from a pure baseball/business standpoint, looking back, you cant win an arguement that he was wrong. He had 4 bad seasons in a row, and for the money, they werent willing to pay him...They did not have the 'projections' that toronto or the yankee's had of him, but were formed out of pure speculation...when a star goes down hill, for a few years, there is no reasonable thoughts in a GM's mind that he will 'come' out of it. Its also knows that Clemens was distraught (sp?) over it, he took it upon himself to 'reinvent' himself, through training, and making himself stronger and better than he was before. So some say that boston giving up on his is what made him become a good pitcher again. He has incredible drive to succeed, which was lacking his last years in boston, and they felt they couldnt motivate him. AND BOSTON DOESNT DENY THAT.

I think you have to check your facts because that statement you made is just rediculous. He wasnt 'greedy', and you can never blame a player, or a person, for taking the best offer they can get. Just like you cant blame ARod for taking the money he got offered in Texas. He didnt leave Boston for Toronto to win numerous world series, he did it because it was him best option at the time. He would not have motivated himself to win the back to back cy youngs if he stayed w/ boston.

I thought you were a sports fan? This is pretty well known information. ::sigh::

[spec-v5150]

You want a dramatic game? Watch NY and Boston tomorrow. I cannot wait. It is pretty much the game to end all games. There will not be a better game for years to come than the game we will see tomorrow.

I can't wait to see the after effects of the game tomorrow, despite who wins.

I hate the Yankees with a passion, and I want with all of my heart for them to win tomorrow, but a part of me would feel bad for Clemens if he lost tomorrow. He should have been a lifer. There are some players who just were not supposed to play for any other team than the Red Sox. And Clemens would still be wearing red if he hadn't gotten greedy. I would be sorry to see him lose the last game of his career to the Red Sox, but I REALLY want to see the Red Sox crush him.

You know what... forget that. He got greedy, crush the bastard. Go Sox.

As for the Cubs vs Marlins... I feel bad for them. No one knows what the feel like like the Red Sox players and their fans. They had the series. It was theirs. I wonder if that fan really was the turning point.

hmm.... GO SOX!

I dont feel the least bit sad for the Cubs or the Braves for that matter. Cubs were winning 3 games to 1. It is the same as the Bucs Colts game. Everyone looks at the last call in the game. Simeon Rice gets called for unsportsmanlike conduct or whatever. YET they blew a 21 point lead in the 4th QTR!!!!! How can you look past that obvious fact. The cubs had the series 3to1 and choked. PERIOD. The Braves are my team I watch from the beginning to end of the season every season. Obviously they have enough talent to win 100 games consistently and win their divison 12 straight seasons, yet choke in the playoffs. So i have no sympathy. I want the red sox to win only because I think it adds flavor to the game. Like I watched the Lakers since Utah swept them in 99. Then they won 3 straight. I wanted them to win their 4th title in a row but at the same time I didnt. Give someone else a chance to win. Makes the game more interesting the next year. That is the only reason I am rooting for the Red Sox. And why does everyone hate the yankees??? Because they spend good money on their players or they have one of the deepest histories and success in baseball?? and to call a player greedy...LOL okay. If someone said on one hand you can have 1 million bucks or on the other hand you can have 2 million bucks, what would you take??? If anything, they are ALL greedy. Players striking. Asking for more money. I thought a-Rod was dumb for taking the money because he went from a contender to a cosistently losing team. Then complains about it....LOL bwahahahahaha dumb ***.

[I H8 UR DSM]

I thought a-Rod was dumb for taking the money because he went from a contender to a cosistently losing team. Then complains about it....LOL bwahahahahaha dumb ***.

again, facts.

ARod went to a 'building contender'...a team that TOLD him they were going to be active in the market and aim at winning championships...went out and got a lot of players. THeir GM isnt as good as some of the other though, and didnt do it 'right'. There isnt a cap in baseball, so its not like he took up all the cap space, the team told him they had money to spend on other players. He has said that he'd take less money to make the team more competitive. The only complaining that he has ever done is that they 'lied' to him. He might get aggrivated, but thats understandable....no one wants to lose all the time, but he is realistic.

[fiznat]

.... so go sox!

[I H8 UR DSM]

So here's something we were throwing around last night (and did research the numbers, but i dont have them at work)...

RE. "Buying a championship"...and the REDSOX off season moves, and players on their rosters they didnt bring up through the minors, VS. the YANKEE"S roster and moves....and it was overwhelming evidence that if you were going to say who 'bought' their team this year...its the SOX.

I dont expect a close game tonight, i think it will be like 7-4 or something of the sort.

[spec-v5150]

again, facts.

ARod went to a 'building contender'...a team that TOLD him they were going to be active in the market and aim at winning championships...went out and got a lot of players. THeir GM isnt as good as some of the other though, and didnt do it 'right'. There isnt a cap in baseball, so its not like he took up all the cap space, the team told him they had money to spend on other players. He has said that he'd take less money to make the team more competitive. The only complaining that he has ever done is that they 'lied' to him. He might get aggrivated, but thats understandable....no one wants to lose all the time, but he is realistic.

Okay building contender.....Ill try not laugh. I just state dmy opinion that I thought he was dumb for taking the money to play for the Texas Rangers. Every sport has a team that just loses. Thats all they can do right. And how long has he been there??? He can only blame himslef. If they lied to him or not. I dont buy that one bit. I mean to me millions ae millions. I wont call Roger Clemens greedy and I wont call A Rod greedy but...if say the yankess offered me perosnally 100 million and he Texas Rangers offered me 252 million, I would honestly take the Yankess deal. I still get paid excellent money and play for a perrinial playoff team. He knew what he wa getting into and has no room for complaints. Just my .02 cents

[I H8 UR DSM]

Okay building contender.....Ill try not laugh. I just state dmy opinion that I thought he was dumb for taking the money to play for the Texas Rangers. Every sport has a team that just loses. Thats all they can do right. And how long has he been there??? He can only blame himslef. If they lied to him or not. I dont buy that one bit. I mean to me millions ae millions. I wont call Roger Clemens greedy and I wont call A Rod greedy but...if say the yankess offered me perosnally 100 million and he Texas Rangers offered me 252 million, I would honestly take the Yankess deal. I still get paid excellent money and play for a perrinial playoff team. He knew what he wa getting into and has no room for complaints. Just my .02 cents

you are stating a pure opinion, not the facts. The year that AROd went to the Rangers, they were predicted to be the 1-3 best team in the league. Their pitching and injuries affected them, and they still had a potent offense. They underachieved, and aged. Now they have to step back and look at what they want to do. You can say you'd take 100million over 252 million, but i'd say hell no, i'd take 2.5 times the money and play for a decent team, in a great city (plus no taxes on that 252 mill, so its even more if u think about it)..and trying to win the games. Baseballs a team sport and ARod can only do so much...he's still one of the top 3 players in the league, and will continue to be. The mets might not want to pass him up when the opportunity arrises again

again...Texas was a "perenial playoff contender" when he signed that deal, so your arguement is not legit

[fiznat]

eh if he thought he was getting in on the ground floor of something, I can see that.. but even still that's a huge amount of trust outta him- to beleive that the rangers were suddenly going to become big time, and to trust his reputation to that team. I donno, he's still got the money, but he doesnt see any games later than september. Depends whats more important to him I guess, but the choice certanly couldn't have been as simple as money vs. won games...

[fiznat]

lol I think the sox should snag him... we need an ex-yankee to REALLY stick it to em. hahah the yanks have had enough of our exes.

[spec-v5150]

I am not saying the blame falls on his shoulders. Not at all. There are what...25 players on a basrball team?? And I did state my opinion as opinion. I mean ater awhile how much money can you havve. Isnt your legacy more important or winning a championship. Would Michael Jordan be remembered how he is if he hadnt won 6 rings?? I will say that he is a damned fine player, but when were the Texas Rangers projected to be a top 1-3 team??? Never heard of that. Especially in the American League. Sure 252 million dollars would be great, but relatively speaking...losing sucks. When you get older you apprieciate the more fine points of the game. I Dont blame him for taking the money but look how long he is tied up for. I am sure older guys playing would rather have a ring than more millions. Just me talking here though.

[spec-v5150]

And even last night. A Rod was at the NLCS game. You tell when the camera flashed on him that he wishes he were playing instead of watching from the stands. I think it is sad really.

[I H8 UR DSM]

Chan Ho Park was "supposed to be a great pitcher"Carl Everett was "supposed to be a great hitter"Juan Gonzalez is greatAROD is GreatPalemero is/was great...

I'd argue any day of the week, starting lineup Texas is better than a lot of the teams out ther eon paper..their pitching fell apart, and now they want to cut expenses and payroll to stop losing money as a team every year, and thats whats pissing AROD off.

Its not doubt he wants to win, he said he'd work w/ another team and the rangers if they want to trade him for the good of the rangers so they can get more players with the limited budget they are operating under now. He's a great guy, he's not greedy, and he's not scum...he went to a GOOD TEAM (on paper) and took the best offer...TExas was supposed to be good, you really cant argue that, they made a lot of moves to improve, but didnt get 'character players'...they got redsox like everett, who tear the heart of the team out HAHAH

[spec-v5150]

well that would be a good arguement. Texas did have decent players. But on the opposite side of that spectrum, Look at the Marlins team. Did anyone REALLY think they would make it to the World Series??? No I was watching the games and I havent heard of most of the players. Jeff Conine I have heard of and that Dontrelle Willis dude only because he was on the cover of a magazine at the dentists office

[I H8 UR DSM]

Lowell is great, I. Rod is great, Beckett is amazing, Castillo is very good, The have one of the best base stealers in baseball, the coach turned them around, they have good position players and roll players...but it was a suprise to see them go that far, i knew they'd be better than the mets, but most people just considered Atlanta would win again...was a suprise...even then, i' thought the cubs would beat the Marlins.....but I. Rod has taken it upon himself (much like clemens) after being traded, to prove his team wrong.(oh, and i forgot to add him to that roster texas had when arod signed)

[spec-v5150]

Yeah the braves continue to disappoint me. ARRRRGH. 12 straight division titles...one world series. Hell how many times have they not even made it out of the first round???

[Nathan]

A-Rod pisses me off, every time I go to a game I wonder why the heck we hired him. I think I'm just bad luck for the Rangers We haven't had good pitching in years either...