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well the title says it all, got a red light ticket in the mail yesterday. i didnt think it would be a big deal because i was in the country and there was no cross traffic. i was about 4 feet from making it to the other side when it snapped my pic. i saw myself in teh pic, but it is really unclear because of how i have to set my seat to fit in my car.

i was looking around online a bit and i saw some sites that claimed they could beat my ticket and if not they would refund the cost of fighting it (all without ever having to apear in court). anyone use any of these services before? should i give it a shot or suck it up and just pay it?


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i saw a thing like this on "speeders fight back" the owner was out of country, and his employees was using the work truck and got a ticket from those cameras. owner showed proof he was out of country and everything, and judge said it doesnt matter. it's whoever the car is registered to. lame, i know

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if it's under 100 bucks it's not worth fighting, I've had two and neither appear on my driving record for the State of Texas, so they don't affect insurance etc.

fines vary though, one town was 75 bucks another town was 150

they got a great picture of me though, I saved a copy of it lol

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i'll upload the pics when i get a chance. i think the min fine in california is $250.00 though

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LMMFAO! duuude we gotta see the pic of you RUNNING THE RED LIGHT!!
I got a redlight camera fine once.

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at least on Long Island, NY:
NOTES:
A Red Light Camera Violation does not carry points and does not go on your motorist record.
A Red Light Camera Violation CANNOT be pled to a lesser offense.
A Red Light Camera Violation fine CANNOT be reduced.

in NY they are counted like a parking ticket... since they cant verify who was driving the car when the red light camera ticket occurs, they take a pic and a quick video and send you the picture stills with the ticket. here in NY its $50... does not effect insurance or your drivers license... unless you dont pay them (and i would assume a license suspension for parking ticket violations since thats how they are looked at)

here is the website link for the the eastern part of long island - nassau county:
http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/tpva/rlc.html

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srwong wrote:i saw a thing like this on "speeders fight back" the owner was out of country, and his employees was using the work truck and got a ticket from those cameras. owner showed proof he was out of country and everything, and judge said it doesnt matter. it's whoever the car is registered to. lame, i know
nope. my brother got one but the car was in my dad's name. my dad said it wasnt him and the cop just dropped the ticket.... not fair though. my car is in my name and my moms and it came for me. I warn my brother about the traffic light and 2 weeks later he gets the same ticket at the same spot I warned him about lol

for ppl who say "you shouldnt try and fight it" and "people can get hurt if you break the law". I have no problem with red light camera tickets for people going straight or making left turns. its the right turn that just disgusts me that they would stoop that low. you slow down making a right turn instead of making a complete stop and then turning right and you get a $450+ ticket with points on your record! total BS to me. I seriously want to look into how to change laws and go door to door getting 1,000+ signatures to get rid of those damn right turn cameras. they got them at all the intersections by my house. like within a 15 mile radius, only 1 or 2 of them are further then 1 mile from my house.

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oh and theirs proof that these camera's cause just as many accidents (if not more) then they prevent. studies have shown that people get paranoid at camera intersections and stop too sudenly and get rear ended. I've seen people floor the brakes RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE LIGHT when it turns yellow!!! they could safely make it no problem but they're scared. It's causing traffic and accidents. :mad: sorry for the rant, I just really really really HATE right turn cameras.

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^^^^^^^ definitely agree with ya on this subject. I always look out for the cameras since it seems like they try to give tickets purposely. Ontop of that, the government is planning to put more cameras in Cali.

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Hussain wrote:nope. my brother got one but the car was in my dad's name. my dad said it wasnt him and the cop just dropped the ticket.... not fair though. my car is in my name and my moms and it came for me. I warn my brother about the traffic light and 2 weeks later he gets the same ticket at the same spot I warned him about lol
"nope" is incorrect on your part. Police don't give out camera tickets so there has to be some other reason or way that it was dropped by a cop, he would have had to take it to the city. The reason why this varies is because some places treat the camera tickets as non-moving violations while others treat it as a moving violation and additionally, some of these cameras are operated privately and some are state-owned or city-owned. Treating it as a non-moving violation means the ticket goes to the registered owner regardless of who was operating the vehicle and you have little opportunity to fight the ticket unless there is a larger effort or case against that particular camera as being defective, biased, etc.

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Hussain wrote:oh and theirs proof that these camera's cause just as many accidents (if not more) then they prevent. studies have shown that people get paranoid at camera intersections and stop too sudenly and get rear ended. I've seen people floor the brakes RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE LIGHT when it turns yellow!!! they could safely make it no problem but they're scared. It's causing traffic and accidents. :mad: sorry for the rant, I just really really really HATE right turn cameras.
That's how I feel about the red light cameras... in trying to get people to not cross red lights, unfortunately it may make them paranoid and stop suddenly, etc. I know in my own experience I've done that a couple of odd times, at a yellow light, and a right turn on red, stopped when I could have cleared it safely, without the guy behind me probably cussing me out as he's slamming his brakes.

That and in Dallas and other metro areas, they actually proposed removing or replacing red light cameras to other spots because they 'worked so well that they were not bringing in enough REVENUE.'...... Yeah it's all about money, so they don't give 2 shats about how you and I feel.

And nothing against the residents there, but I'm glad I'm not in Commifornia! Hussain's town's red light camera issues sound maddening!

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mrodrig2 wrote:
Hussain wrote:nope. my brother got one but the car was in my dad's name. my dad said it wasnt him and the cop just dropped the ticket.... not fair though. my car is in my name and my moms and it came for me. I warn my brother about the traffic light and 2 weeks later he gets the same ticket at the same spot I warned him about lol
"nope" is incorrect on your part. Police don't give out camera tickets so there has to be some other reason or way that it was dropped by a cop, he would have had to take it to the city. The reason why this varies is because some places treat the camera tickets as non-moving violations while others treat it as a moving violation and additionally, some of these cameras are operated privately and some are state-owned or city-owned. Treating it as a non-moving violation means the ticket goes to the registered owner regardless of who was operating the vehicle and you have little opportunity to fight the ticket unless there is a larger effort or case against that particular camera as being defective, biased, etc.

lol ya sorry about that. I was in a hurry when I wrote that. I meant the judge dropped it. my dad took it to trial and then told the judge it wasnt him and the judge dropped it.


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