Rebuilding the CA....

[Tryingtogetoutofcars35]

I've had a change of heart going into tomorrow's heart surgury. My plans as of right now is to pull the engine and trans fix throwout bearing problem(1st and 3rd grind) problem that he stated on the his FS thread and rebuild the CA. but i have a few questions.

Bottem end is gone so i want to rebuild pretty much everything. so i found this rebuild kit from importperformanceparts.net which is $925 and includes

Complete Gasket SetCopper/MLS Head GasketWiseco Forged Pistons(83, 83.5, 84mm Bore) and (8.5, 8.8:1 compression)Plasma Moly RingsPerformance Wrist PinsTOGA HP Main BearingsTOGA HP Rod BearingsFreeze Plugs

just want to find out if this is a good deal for a kit and/or where to find stock rebuild parts. I plan to have the car right at 350whp when im done with it. I plan on takening my time to do this right and learn as much as possible.

I'll make a rebuild thread tomorrow after i take the motor out and start tearing it down.

[tom@ica]

Measure bearings before ordering, never heard of any of anyone running there kit so if you do it let us know how it goes

[iliketocrash]

some of the gaskets were for an sohc motor so i had to spend i think $20 to get the correct ones. i don't remember which gaskets they were exactly because i did it all last year. other than that the kit is a good buy. in my opinion at least. shipping was fast and they were very polite. i'm sure they would have sent me the correct gaskets had i asked but i was in a hurry to get my motor finished and it was quicker to get the gaskets from my local auto parts store than to have the correct ones shipped to me from the company. also, don't bother with the copper headgasket. there is nothing wrong with them except that they're really for race purposes only and they don't last very long. or so i'm told. on a side note. mine is for sale if someone wants it. brand new. thing is probably about 1/8" solid copper. or at least around there, i never actually measured it but it's pretty damned thick!

[ca18datsun510]

who told you first and third grinding is a throw out bearing problem?

[c-rad]

who told you first and third grinding is a throw out bearing problem?

Yeah, if its 1st and 3rd, it sounds more like synchros.

[r34 gtr]

Sean told him I am assuming. Its his old car, and I would assume he would know what the deal was.

[kapower06]

I got my forged goodies through them (importperformanceparts.net) and they were real good. Had no problems and promptly shipped my sh** out.

Also I cant see what a throw out bearing has to do with grinding only on a few certain gears. That sounds like a syncro problem more than anything. Also check and adjust your clutch pedal height.

[Woods Crasher]

Whoa 439.00 for a set of Wiseco pistons? Aren't they a good company? Why the hell do people want 600 - 700 for CP's pistons?

[ch187]

yeah pistons arent that bad but the rods kill you. any set of rods for the CA is ridiculously expensive.

[float_6969]

Who said CP pistons were that much? Unless they're custom pistons, CP has a CA piston on file and are comparably priced to the Weisco pistons.

[Tryingtogetoutofcars35]

who told you first and third grinding is a throw out bearing problem?

I told myself!!! lol i've been around the block more then a few times. the car never grinded going into anygear on the way home or anyother time i've driven it. there is a noise/ lil vibration when in nuetural with the clutch out(throw out bearing) and the "grinding" that he mentioned wasn't grinding it was when half way through the pedal movement going into 1st gear(lifting up to engauge clutch) the noise and vibration would happen again.(throwout bearing) In my option this KA transmission is a whole lot better then any of my past SR trannys.

anyway i found some more problems that need to be addressed before i will able to make the power mark i wanted out of the engine and after the cost of the rebuild and the extra parts with more tuning i'll be at the difference in terms of money for the VH swap. so the CA parts or going up for sale. being able to daily a 300wtrq/whp car with no problems is really what i'm looking for.

So parts for FS are basically anything in the engine bay... CA long block with Alt,PS, intake manni, TB and all sensors attached, B@M short sifter, KA transmission, ROM tuned ECU, Full CA wiring harness with SAFC2 already spliced in,Top Mount 20G turbo set up(turbo, lines, DP,HP,WG r33 GTR FMICwith trust piping kit(has three little holes in it but can be welded back shut) .

Just hit me up if you want anything. I'm not looking to make a killing on any of the parts i'm just trying to recoop some of the money spent of the car.

thanks guys and sorry about putting my foot into my mouth about the rebuild that wont happen now.

cheers

[ca18datsun510]

poor car.

what a shame.

and you are the one who said grinding in first and third is caused by to bearing.

i dont care how many times you've been around the block, thats wrong.

[Tryingtogetoutofcars35]

did you even read what i said? The transmission has NEVER grinded into gear when drove it! He miss spoke when he called it "grinding" into 1st and 3rd. I thought i explaned what the real problem was well enough to let everyone understand that the transmission does NOT GRIND IN ANY GEAR. And the real problem that is has was with the throwout bearing. plus Sean himself didn't really know what the noise was. My past SRs with aftermarket clutchs almost always had problem with throwout bearing noise/vibration b/c of Drifting. You going alround the track picking the clutch and droping it over 50 times in hi RPMs in a day. it really is not that big of a deal if you can get over the little noise and vibration it makes. Now grinding is a very LOUD noise and HARSH vibration. and come one if you've ever drifted my best guess you've grabed a whole **** load of gear at least once!!! I have!! I've miss shifted plunty of times. trying to down shift form 3rd to 2nd, keep angle, work the throttle, with a touch of ebrake a lot is going on at one time... so i know what grinding a gear feels like. Plus if you've driven a stick your whole life and not grinded atleast one gear your full of ****. so i know the difference from throw out bearing noise/vibration and actual gear grinding.

*some of the attacking statements above are hippothetical. i know you've never said you've never grinded a gear i'm just trying to make the point that i know what a grinding gear sounds and feels like as should anyone thats ever driven stick...

OK enough on the transmission!!! if you have any doughts. I'll put the transmission in any car and if it "grinds" you can have it for free! but if if it doesn't you own me 300 for the transmission and my time plus lunch! nuff said

also you stated poor car? i understand Sean is well loved and respected around here but come to find out he wasn't a saint when it came to his car all the time. there is a bunch of reasons that lead to this engine blowing that i found out while pulling the engine. Nothing major that counldn't have been found or fixed in time just little things.

anyways cheers guys i'm probably making enemies here and thats not how i want this to go but i felt attacked so i deffended myself.

Modified by Tryingtogetoutofcars35 at 7:48 AM 10/27/2007
Modified by Tryingtogetoutofcars35 at 7:53 AM 10/27/2007

[ca18datsun510]

you typed to much im not reading it all.

[driftin8ez]

you typed to much im not reading it all.

New Yorkers...

[NeedCAforS13]

the transmission does NOT GRIND IN ANY GEAR. And the real problem that is has was with the throwout bearing. plus Sean himself didn't really know what the noise was.

also you stated poor car? i understand Sean is well loved and respected around here but come to find out he wasn't a saint when it came to his car all the time. there is a bunch of reasons that lead to this engine blowing that i found out while pulling the engine. Nothing major that counldn't have been found or fixed in time just little things.

I really am sorry man. I have no idea how it managed to blow up. You're 100% correct that I wasn't a saint with the car, and neither was my girlfriend, but I never claimed to be either. I tracked it plenty of times, beat it up on the street, and it was just a case of terribly ****ty luck that it blew up on you so quickly after you purchased it. I sincerely do apologize. You are one awesome dude for not coming on here and talking smack, and I respect you even more now. I respect anyone who serves in our armed forces right off the bat, but you've gone above and beyond. Thank you sir. Everyone else, just lay off. Rob's one of the coolest guys I've met in the 240 scene. If I wanted anyone to own my car, it would be a guy like Robert. He's not gonna mess it up. He's right about the throw out bearing. Its not a transmission grind exactly, but I wasn't (and still am not) sure what it is, so I said grind, assuming the worst.

That being said, Robert, you've got my #. If there's anything you need help with PLEASE give me a call. ANYTHING. CA parts, whatever I've got, its yours. I also have some good friends at Enjuku racing, they have a bunch of 350z engines/trannies they're trying to get rid of. I will get you a deal if thats the route you want to take...

And when you get a minute call me, I wanna hear what broke exactly. I'm curious at this point. I don't feel "responsible" or like I hid anything about the car, but I do feel like you got dealt a ****ty hand. Especially since you've handled yourself so maturely. 99% of the punks out there would have come on here and blamed me for it. You laid it out nice and honestly. Thanks man.

-Sean

[float_6969]

Sean, I really need to talk to you about ca18det.org. PLEASE email me!!![/offtopic]

[Tryingtogetoutofcars35]

Hey sean thanks for posting. I'll give you a call once i figur out what i'm doing with the car. I'm going through ALS which is a military school b/c I have a line number for staff(E-5). so i have no time whatsoever for the car and i might the just sell the shell and the engine parts. I'm not gonna whore the whole car out, that would be an injustise to the car. just the shell as a whole(wheels, lip,interior), and the engine parts. Like you with and your M3 and like my username states i've really been looking forward to having a really nice car and the whole time in the desert i told myself i wouldn't get caught up in another 240. well has you know I did.. so your BMW M3 is to you like a Lexus IS350 is to me so itstead on droping another 7grand to put another VQ or V8 in this 240 i might as well just put it towards a nice down payment on what i really want to have for the long road.

Also to you i hate it b/c i'm taken apart what worked for 5 years for you. i'd kinda be pissed if a dude bought my car and parted right out but the blown engine puts a damper on me selling it for anything close to what i bought it for as a whole. i'm still going to be in the neg. after everything sells but such is life.

anyways... parts are up for sell to anyone. plus the shell title has already been processed and i have my new one back so its clean and clear. I will intertain offers on the shell but be realistic when offering!! don't say $500 bucks you wont get a response. *the wheels alone are worth half of what i'd like to sell it for. it might be on ebay in a few days i'm still on the fence about the selling the shell b/c its a really nice shell!!

another long post LOL!!