Reasons Why....

[RobTurbo]

Can someone chime in on why the VQ37DE is the cause of VQ being dropped from Ward's 10 best engine list......

Should I worry about buying a G37???

[Sentientbydesign]

Can someone chime in on why the VQ37DE is the cause of VQ being dropped from Ward's 10 best engine list......

Should I worry about buying a G37???

Hahahaha. You noticed this too?

I think nissan needs to redesign the VVEL system and figure out how to run an engine on regular oil instead of their super expensive pseudo synthetic.

[kmckis1029]

i would think since the vq35de had proven its self and was featured in cars, suvs, and trucks in the nissian line up... the vq37de is a new engine only in like 3 cars and only cars... does it have the track record of the vq35 yet... i would say no... but its seems to be a great upgrade to the vq35 IMO and i wouldnt be worried... if i could upgrade to a vq37 i would in a heart beat!!!

[Sentientbydesign]

i would think since the vq35de had proven its self and was featured in cars, suvs, and trucks in the nissian line up... the vq37de is a new engine only in like 3 cars and only cars... does it have the track record of the vq35 yet... i would say no... but its seems to be a great upgrade to the vq35 IMO and i wouldnt be worried... if i could upgrade to a vq37 i would in a heart beat!!!

The VQ30DE was on the Wards list back in 95 or 96. When the VQ35DE came out, the engine replaced the VQ30DE and was still on the list. As soon as the VQ37VHR (I think that's the new code) comes out, it's not on the list.

[pfarmer]

Hahahaha. You noticed this too?

I think nissan needs to redesign the VVEL system and figure out how to run an engine on regular oil instead of their super expensive pseudo synthetic.

I disagree. If an engine has an advance feature that customers are willing to purchase then the fact it may need an advance lubrication to use properly should not be an issue. This isn't really any different than BMW's new 'D' series requiring a new additive that replaces its spare tire.

Perry

[Sentientbydesign]

I disagree. If an engine has an advance feature that customers are willing to purchase then the fact it may need an advance lubrication to use properly should not be an issue. This isn't really any different than BMW's new 'D' series requiring a new additive that replaces its spare tire.

Perry

My understanding is that those DC motors don't hold up well. Also, esther derived synthetics sell for much less than Nissan's pseudo synthetic.

[zozoka1212]

Can someone chime in on why the VQ37DE is the cause of VQ being dropped from Ward's 10 best engine list......

Should I worry about buying a G37???

So let me ask you. Because it is not the "best engine" you have to buy something else?

Buy the BMW I think they got the award on the engine. But don't be surprised when your fuel pump fails after 2-3 times replaced and BMW can't seem to find the solution for that.

Choice is yours. But if you go for the " best" engine that doesn't mean you've got the most reliable one. Just my .02.

[kmckis1029]

yeah i was surprised to see it not there too... im just saying that the wide application of the vq35 really kept it on the list IMO... and many other engines on the list have wide apllication also... once the vq37 creeps into the other nissian cars,suvs, and trucks then contimues to perform well; i wouldnt be surprised to see it back on the list...

[Poyzinous]

The next 3.7 in 2011 will be on the list.

[RobTurbo]

So let me ask you. Because it is not the "best engine" you have to buy something else?

Buy the BMW I think they got the award on the engine. But don't be surprised when your fuel pump fails after 2-3 times replaced and BMW can't seem to find the solution for that.

Choice is yours. But if you go for the " best" engine that doesn't mean you've got the most reliable one. Just my .02.

I asked if I should worry...didnt say I wanted to have the "best engine".....almost as bad as my wife for putting words in mouth ahahah JK bud

Thanks guys for the info! I'll keep an eye on things for the next few months while I make my decision.

[Sentientbydesign]

I asked if I should worry...didnt say I wanted to have the "best engine".....almost as bad as my wife for putting words in mouth ahahah JK bud

Thanks guys for the info! I'll keep an eye on things for the next few months while I make my decision.

I like puting "things" in my wife's mouth. Same thing?

[zozoka1212]

I asked if I should worry...didnt say I wanted to have the "best engine".....almost as bad as my wife for putting words in mouth ahahah JK bud

LOL

Maybe I worded wrong. Sorry if came out that way. I just think there is nothing wrong with the engine because it is not on the list. It is still reliable and superb.

I agree with Poyzi in 2011 with the DI it will be on the list.

[infinitgkid]

VQ35 'till I die!

or...

when my next car has a VQ37 or better...

[pfarmer]

My understanding is that those DC motors don't hold up well. Also, esther derived synthetics sell for much less than Nissan's pseudo synthetic.

DC motors or 'D' motors. The point I was making is that in the BMW you have to toss out the spare tire in order to use a mandatory fluid located in that area.

As far as price gouging, yep most likely the case, but then if it actually works better for the application, then you have already possibly spent close to 40 grand or more for a vehicle an occasional hundred dollar oil change just may be part of the package you need to plan on spending in much the same way as higher insurance costs.

Perry

[pfarmer]

I like puting "things" in my wife's mouth. Same thing?

I don't think he was speaking of small talk.

Perry

[pfarmer]

LOL

Maybe I worded wrong. Sorry if came out that way. I just think there is nothing wrong with the engine because it is not on the list. It is still reliable and superb.

I agree with Poyzi in 2011 with the DI it will be on the list.

Maybe it is as simple as not signing the check.

Perry

[Sentientbydesign]

DC motors or 'D' motors. The point I was making is that in the BMW you have to toss out the spare tire in order to use a mandatory fluid located in that area.

As far as price gouging, yep most likely the case, but then if it actually works better for the application, then you have already possibly spent close to 40 grand or more for a vehicle an occasional hundred dollar oil change just may be part of the package you need to plan on spending in much the same way as higher insurance costs.

Perry

I don't keep up on Bimmers. What is this magical fluid BMW makes you put in place of your spare tire? Urea? Essence of douchebag?

I don't think he was speaking of small talk.

Perry

ha

[joe603]

I really thought that they would have a V8 available by now...Give me the FX50 engine in a G!!!

[Poyzinous]

One of my contacts told me that a V8 is only a possibility for the G, but Infiniti USA doesn't know how profitable an M3 fighter from infiniti will be, so they are first using the convertible, and hybrid series for the next 3 years. Hopefully, we'll see either the GTR motor or a 440hp high rev version of the 5.0 in the G soon... I have a savings account for that purpose only. I'm up to 7 grand.

[kmckis1029]

a v8 sounds nice... but how will the MPG be? i love powerful engines but after a certian MPG i wouldnt buy it... cause i wouldnt want a weekend car... i would want to drive it everyday

[pfarmer]

I don't keep up on Bimmers. What is this magical fluid BMW makes you put in place of your spare tire? Urea? Essence of douchebag?

ha

The BMW I am mentioning is the new diesel version (335D). The lack of a spare tire means you now have much more expensive run flat tires. The spare tire area now has a tank that holds the fluid (which I forget the name at the moment) required to make the vehicle pass muster when it comes to pollution.

The car is a fairly good performer running 0-60 times in the upper 5s in its stock form. While doesn't sound great compared to what we have it has a lot of torque. Mileage is reported in the low to mid 30s.

Perry

[Sentientbydesign]

The BMW I am mentioning is the new diesel version (335D). The lack of a spare tire means you now have much more expensive run flat tires. The spare tire area now has a tank that holds the fluid (which I forget the name at the moment) required to make the vehicle pass muster when it comes to pollution.

The car is a fairly good performer running 0-60 times in the upper 5s in its stock form. While doesn't sound great compared to what we have it has a lot of torque. Mileage is reported in the low to mid 30s.

Perry

Urea. Excreted in your pee, also available in most cosmetics (synthetic) hehehe (makes the skin softer).

[pfarmer]

Urea. Excreted in your pee, also available in most cosmetics (synthetic) hehehe (makes the skin softer).

Note the torque:

155 mph, 0 to 62 mph in 6.0 seconds, 265 hp (I think) and 428 lb.-ft. of torque. One was shown on the local station and the consensus was that the numbers really don't show what really happens. That is stomp the gas on the freeway and it will pull away from other cars with better 0-60 numbers.

The fluid is called Adblue and is 1/3 urea and 2/3 water. It is for NOX control. Sounds about right since in an industrial use ammonia is often used for NOX control using a catalyst bed. NOX water is used to trim to minimize the use of ammonia which is not only expensive but there are some implications when storing it due to its use for illegal drug manufacturing (safety labels often face away from the street side). I ran LM6000 gas turbines prior to retiring.

What impressed me besides the performance, looks, and mileage was that the it didn't sound like a diesel.

Perry

[RobTurbo]

Note the torque:

155 mph, 0 to 62 mph in 6.0 seconds, 265 hp (I think) and 428 lb.-ft. of torque. One was shown on the local station and the consensus was that the numbers really don't show what really happens. That is stomp the gas on the freeway and it will pull away from other cars with better 0-60 numbers.

The fluid is called Adblue and is 1/3 urea and 2/3 water. It is for NOX control. Sounds about right since in an industrial use ammonia is often used for NOX control using a catalyst bed. NOX water is used to trim to minimize the use of ammonia which is not only expensive but there are some implications when storing it due to its use for illegal drug manufacturing (safety labels often face away from the street side). I ran LM6000 gas turbines prior to retiring.

What impressed me besides the performance, looks, and mileage was that the it didn't sound like a diesel.

Perry

Well the freeway isnt exactly 0-60 time is it......

[pfarmer]

Well the freeway isnt exactly 0-60 time is it......

No it isn't, also not just on the freeway. One should never get confused that torque doesn't count. It is what is going to force you back in the seat and cry mama.

Perry