Reason Why Iam Doing This "daunt"

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

i to am young just barely outta high school. ive been a 240 owner for alittle while and i have been reading the nico forums for quite awhile. the only person that i doubted on here is you. and i know by reading past post that other have doubted you also and have questioned you and asked for refrences. iam the only one here that does not suck up to you on the forums. iam only voicing my opinions. i admit that what i have said was harsh but it was only in self defense against everyone that sucks up to you. for example things that make me doubt your creditbility is 1) no one has recieved any type of merchandise from you. 2) your own personal veichle is not even mildly modified. yet you do say you will put an rb but so far it is only talk. all the information that you have that people admire you for is just information that anybody who reads the forums can regurgitate back to the forum as thier own. 3) being that you are fairly young and it takes time to gain experiance i dont see how you have done many mechanical work to back up the "God like status" you have on this forum. when i was in high school i didnt have time to worry about things like this. i was occupied with tv and video games, let alone doing any major automotive work. and on another note the money you flashed you say you are using it on tools. what is your intentions on flashing the money around? are you implying that you are rich? why would you buy tools with cash? why dont you use a company check or company buisness account. what "buisness" would go buy tools with cash? ive explained alittle about where iam coming from. and BTW i dont work at F&F but i DO hang out there often.

Post by **ninjak84** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

No more new threads please.It's just spam, so stay with one from now on.

Post by **Former_240_s14** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

^ werd!

Post by **Daunttless** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

Well, I suppose I'll respond since your statement was actually put together in complete sentences. Let's go in order shall we.

1) There are several other people that don't suck up to me, it really doesn't matter, it's not about sucking up.

2) Everyone seems to think it's a huge number of people that have given me deposits, it's really not. Also, those who were disappointed have had their money returned. When I went into this I didn't give anyone a date. I've turned away three or four times as many people as have given me deposits.

3) I don't have any engines or merchandise here. Ordering 1 item at a time, especially if that 1 item is for me doesn't make much sense now does it? Additionally, I have an RB in this shipment that's going in, I know exactly how it's going in, and I have people who can confirm and back that up. : ) It's hard to put my own engine in when it's with everyone elses

4) I'm not a wrencher, never claimed to be a wrencher. : ) That's what Torry is for. I know a lot, and I have a lot of technical knowledge, but the vast majority of my knowledge lies in reading compressor maps and fuel curves. Look around, there isn't much use for that here. Most of the knowledge I am able to provide is "regurgitated" knowledge because everyone asks the same questions. Since the other members have shown up and become a stronger force after our rather slow beginnings, I haven't commented nearly as much in the "which intake is better" threads. If you would like to have a discussion about a haltech, that's fine, but seeing as how there isn't much to discuss, that leaves me a bit wanting.

Also, saying that age implies wisdom, intelligence, or knowledge is the fallacy of correlation. Just because age correlates with something doesn't mean it implies causation. I know a lot of people older than me who know significantly less than me, and I'm sure there's a lot of people younger than me who know a lot more. Age matters very little.

Additionally, I was never your average high school student or college student, I would think that would have been apparent by now. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, chase women. I really don't do much of anything that's associated with my age. This would be the fallacy of composition. Just because I'm in the same age group as someone, doesn't mean that I do the same things. I haven't watched TV in years except for Fox News although I do play some video games.

5) How often do you get to hold a large sum of money in your hands? I keep almost all of my money in the bank, and so I don't usually handle that in cold hard cash. I was going to buy tools, I can show the receipts if you'd like. : ) Additionally, two of my employees ( one being Torry ) was there with me, he's sitting in the seat right next to me. I wasn't trying to prove anything by flashing money, it was a fun picture. Additionally, I don't use business checks, my business checks are standard checks. I didn't pay extra to get oversized checks because the only checks I write are my rent and utilities. Salaries are paid by direct deposit, and I use a debit card for everything else, or I pay in cash. I would have prefered to use a check, but because of my age they wouldn't accept the check. I had to go to the bank and withdraw the money. Stupid, yes, blame them, not much I could do about it besides go get the money.

Anything else you would like to ask me?

Post by **Daunttless** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

Also, you seem to know who I am, which narrows you down to very few people since I don't associate with anyone in Cedar Rapids. Let's see, you either have to be the New Image Guys, you might actually be Dave - but that seems a bit far, I'm guessing you're someone that Dave talks to, or you're one of the New Image guys.

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

acutally APCSKYLINE got his info indirectly from a guy who heard it from another guy who heard it from some other guy.

the thing is word spreads fast and gossip rules the town. i like everyone else just keeps my ears open. but what i also heard which is very sad is that you told a kid you can get a skyline for him. yeah right. its sad cause he actually believes you and hes telling people that. what happens when he gives you the money are you gonna give it back a year later. come on thats no way to run a buisness.

Post by **Stoneage_Turbo** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

wow the corn growing offseason is getting mighty ruthless

Post by **Daunttless** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

:;laughs:: Yeah, I can get a Skyline for him. : ) And no, it won't take a year. If he actually does it, which I doubt he will, he'll be driving it by this summer. That's already cleared and is a completely separate matter which I suppose he can discuss at his leisure. I doubt it will go through though, not due to any fault on my end. Also, It's actually a long story as to why other people don't have their goods, one which you aren't privy to. : ) As soon as we clear a few more hurdles we will most likely be offering Skylines as a standard affair. : )

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

"you migh tthink that no one knows about your place, but they do, do you think no one here in Cedar Rapids has internet access and doens't read these forums? All it takes is 1 guy that reads the forums here in this little town of 100,000+ people who tells just 1 other person about a possible import shop opening up here. news of another "shop" here will attract kids and questions like flys on ****." "like i said, I've been reading these forums for a long time and so have others in iowa" I konw someone who actually drove to your 1st potential site before it became a curtain shop or whatever" and that was sometime near Fall 2002

Post by **Daunttless** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

That would have been October. : ) It's some sort of consignment shop for used clothing and furniture I believe. The building was a bit small, but was extremely cheap. : ) I don't think that no one reads the forums, I know a number of guys who read the forums. : ) I just didn't figure anyone who'd been around here for a while would be so ignorant, that's all.

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

Just because you don't associate with people around here doesn't mean that you are incognito to us "Bumble F**k Iowans" <--- as these other forum members think of us. Remember, you're posting in front of thousands of car enthusiasts here. We are NOT that backwards here in Iowa as the rest of this forums thinks. Trust me, people here ARE anticipating your opening and it's NOT just your supporters fromt the NICO forum. sorry but I'm just fed up with all the hype that's 240sx.org is building up.

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

the things that people on the forum know about you is technically just hearsay, but then again, so is what i've heard, so if i came off as an a$$hole, it wasn't meant to be that bad, but ifter my 1st post, everyone here completely lost it like I insulted their mama.and actually fueled the fire longer than it should have.

Post by **Daunttless** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

Well, unfortunately things don't happen overnight. : ) Do you think I enjoy sitting here with nothing to show my supporters, no, not especially. I am extremely grateful that they still support me after the initial bumps. The problem with me not being "incognito" is the fact that none of you know me, none of you associate with me. : ) I'm not sure if people anticipating my opening is a good or bad thing. : ) I would hope it's good, but somehow I doubt it considering your demeaner, which hey, one way or another things will work out for me. I will make them work, as I have been doing, slowly but surely everything is coming in line. My "empty, nonexistent shop" get's a little more complete every day. We'll meet the deadline I set for myself, the first true deadline that I've stated. Whether or not anyone local supports me isn't my primary concern, my primary concern is taking care of my customers and supporters. We will deliver. I will deliver, Torry will deliver. That's the way it will be very shortly, if you want to wait for that, you're more than welcome to, if you want to hate me, go ahead. Also, yes, I would say that most of us here in Cedar Rapids are as backwards as everyone thinks. Cavaliers and Neons with glowy lights, big wings, stickers, and fart cans rule the streets here. I would hope that the real performance would come out of the woodwork once we open up as a haven for anyone local who's actually interested in quality. So I suppose we'll see how everything works out. Enjoy your day!

Post by **Daunttless** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

You came here attacking me. What did you expect? A lot of the people from the forums know me, a lot of the people from the forums know Torry. I have helped a lot of people, Torry has helped a lot of people. It's not heresay when they deal directly with us. When you come in and make a firebrand remark and say I have an empty shop and that I'm lying to everyone, yeah, it tends to piss people off.

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

at first i had some faith in your intentions, but after a while.. when nothing happens and all that was left was some weak explanations.... a guy can start to lose faith and start having doubts. When you're having doubts...and there's all this hype in your area and on the forums it can get irritating because you feel like the only one who's not fooled, so.. you voice your opinion... right?

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

there are many other NICO members who ask about the daunt. they ask for references, they ask if you can be trusted, they ask if you ever actually done anything, they ask questions. and NO, they arent' from Iowa... and NO I didn't put them up to it... they did it all on their own accord.

Post by **Daunttless** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

Well, considering I was hospitalized for five weeks in Sept/Oct I would have to say that that wasn't all that weak of an explanation. : ) By the time things got rolling again it was late November, when I opened up the lists for the first deposits. Most of those came through in December and January, which means people will have waited 3-5 months or so for this first shipment. That's significantly longer than I had planned, but unfortunately there was no way around it. I have never been weak in my explanations. I have always been solid. Just because I don't discuss something on the open boards, and I prefer to keep it private between my customers and myself doesn't mean it's weak. : ) Anything I've ever explained on the open boards has been the short, get to the point version. There's really no hype in Cedar Rapids, unless there's something I'm completely missing. I'm not fooling anyone, I don't even know you so I'm still uncertain as to how I could be fooling you, especially since you don't have any even limited dealings with me. My intentions are still the same they have always been, and now things are proceeding very rapidly. You're welcome to stop by next week if you'd like, we should have most everything finished by then. : ) Enjoy your day!

Post by **Daunttless** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

::laughs:: You accuse me of having weak explanations? You haven't provided a solid argument yet. Yes, there are other NICO members who ask, and when have I ever told people I delivered this shipment? I have sold things to other people, not on this scale before. They ask questions, and they get answers, explain to me again what you are talking about because everything you've alluded to is incorrect. : )

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

so before everyone flames me as if I'M the only one to doubt you.. you should also jump on the others before me who have doubted you .. for example, "SWIFT_DRIFT" had this to say: yeah but its funny how he first started advertising selling engines 6 months ago in Sept. and now here everyone is still waiting...it's also funny how a lot of ppl have pre-ordered engines from him, but no one is posting here to say how please they are with his business. am i the only one here who is not brainwashed? Please don't flame him for doubting Dauntless.. and SWIFT_DRIFT.. i apologize for using your post as an example.

If you're gonna flame me, flame the others on this thread ( http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....13578 ) for doing the same.

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

we, the doubters would all like to see action and not words , excuses or hype. Starting up a business is no easy task and though you never gave a specific date, some of us on the forum have a mind of our own and we learn to form OUR OWN opinions the information presented to us. Excuuuuuse me for not wanting to throw my money to you in hopes of getting somethign in return. I wrote the first post with the intentions of giving a people a reality check and so that they don't get their hopes up too high. In a sense i was just looking out for other people.

Post by **Daunttless** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

heh, as I said in the first reply, there are people who don't support me. It wasn't the fact that you didn't support me that pissed people off, it was the manner in which you presented it. Things didn't go as planned, if you look down a bit farther, I provide yet another annoited explanation for things, which, if you were part of the shipment you would have gotten the full explanation for. : ) You also notice that I returned another guys money upon request. People have always had that option, however most of them have chosen to hold out and wait for this first shipment. : ) I started advertising that I was opening up, then I got deathly ill, and now I'm trying to get things back on track. For someone who has been around a long time, I'm wondering why you weren't around for all of this. : ) You still seem confused as to what pissed people off. Also, Keith posted that he is happy with the explanations and customer service I have provided thus far. : ) There are two sides to every coin.

Post by **Daunttless** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

When have I ever told anyone they had to throw money at me? It's people's choice to purchase from me. If you don't like it, don't buy from me, it's as simple as that. That's the choice a lot of other people have made as well. : )

Post by **Daunttless** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

Heh, one more response then I"m going to bed, so make it snappy. : )

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

so, what you're saying is, everyone here who hates me, is hating ONLY cuz of my PRESENTATION of my original opinion, right? I admit, it was very elementary to come out that way, but so was the massive reaction. I made ONE post... and it was all down hill from there. See how 1 comment can be strectched out and beaten like a dead horse??? EVEN ON THE INTERNET, NOT JUST IOWA

Post by **ninjak84** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

Not all of us are "brainwashed" buddy.Me personally, I couldn't give less of a crap whether Daunt screws people or gets the job done.

I just simply think it's BS for you to come here and start saying crap like you did.Until someone starts a thread on how Daunt ran to Mexico with his money, shut up and let him try to start his business.

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

whateve shinobi

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

"I'm not sure if people anticipating my opening is a good or bad thing. : )" There's people here who hope to see you fail...the same people who like to watch Fear Factor and the like... but there are also people who really want it to work since there isn't much offerings in our area.

Post by **APCSKYLINE** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

In all fairness, I'll leave this enitre subject buried and move on. This didnt' have to be such a big deal, and it never was to me until others wanted to to see some a mass beat down on a guy... those are prolly the same peopel who like Fear Factor. Good night all

Post by **Daunttless** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

So deep down inside you really want things to work out for me, so to facillitate that you try to slander me? : ) That makes sense. Sigh, go figure. I'm going to bed. If you let it die, it's dead, I suppose if you ever show up at the shop, no hard feelings. Enjoy your night.

Post by **theNUDdistBUDDhist** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:29 pm

.... i never saw the begining of this. but it seems pretty lame. dont you guyz realize your staring at the same freeking thing from a differ angle. its not the 1 is wround or right. its that 1 is on the inside and 1 is on the out side. the funny thing is, is that when your on the outside all you can see is whats on the out side. if your shop was up and running, well than thats what he would see. no im not pickin sides nor to i realy know or have a bais towards either but like i sayed that was pertty lame. i wasted time of my life readin this an i coukld sue you (people have done it) not that i would but the point is the same.

1 thing did bother me tho ". I would have prefered to use a check, but because of my age they wouldn't accept the check. I had to go to the bank and withdraw the money. Stupid, yes, blame them, not much I could do about it besides go get the money." -- daunt. now this bothers me. just how old are you. your tryin to start a busness but u cant get your checks cashed? due to your age or not. and if it is due to your age thats worse.

in a way, it doesnt realy mater and just wased alot of time. -- MoNK

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