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rear window replacement 94 vert

Postby jmaggioc » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:00 pm

Anyone out there ever replaced the rear window? Is this something that a mechanically able person should attempt? Or is this best left to a specialist?


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Re: rear window replacement 94 vert (jmaggioc)

Postby stangalot » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:28 pm

Well if your rear window was as bad as mine then i have a great $20 fix..Step 1 go to wal mart and buy 1 yard of heavy duty clear vinyl, $1.97 ....... Grab about 20 feet + of velcro $16.98 ....... And Some glue stick (providing you own a hot glue gun)Step 2 measure out window area, you'll have enough vinyl to screw up once. Hot glue Velcro around Vinyl and Conv Top Thats important... Step 3 Enjoy your new window.. And It looks great if you take your time to do it... A lot better then 400 for new top window..

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Re: rear window replacement 94 vert (stangalot)

Postby Eikon » Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:00 pm

That is one hell of a great first post!

Welcome to the 'vert forum.

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Re: rear window replacement 94 vert (Eikon)

Postby inertiadrft » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:25 pm

Explended First post!

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Re: rear window replacement 94 vert (stangalot)

Postby -RJ- » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:25 pm

stangalot wrote:Well if your rear window was as bad as mine then i have a great $20 fix..Step 1 go to wal mart and buy 1 yard of heavy duty clear vinyl, $1.97 ....... Grab about 20 feet + of velcro $16.98 ....... And Some glue stick (providing you own a hot glue gun)Step 2 measure out window area, you'll have enough vinyl to screw up once. Hot glue Velcro around Vinyl and Conv Top Thats important... Step 3 Enjoy your new window.. And It looks great if you take your time to do it... A lot better then 400 for new top window..
i was thinking of doing that too, is there any leakage after u did it

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Re: rear window replacement 94 vert (-RJ-)

Postby stangalot » Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:30 pm

No leaks at all including highway driving..Holds up well to wind and rain. only one piece of advice... hot glue tends to melt in direct sun especially in Forida.. liquid nails holds up well though.. It looks great though, when i get it out of the shop(Tranny rebuild) I'll post a pic in case anyone is affraid of what it looks like..

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Postby -RJ- » Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:49 pm

oh boy i cant wait lol seriously. i need a back window bad and i sure as hell dont wanna pay 300 dollars for it

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Postby -RJ- » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:01 pm

PICS!!!

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Postby S13xCrazy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:17 pm

yeah...

Thats straight up ballin.

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Postby srphoenix » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:57 pm

pics or a walkthrough would be awesome if you have the time, I plan on doing this sometime soon.

thanks for the great idea!

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Postby -RJ- » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:06 pm

im going to attemp it this sunday if it doesnt rain

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Re: (-RJ-)

Postby The Inflicted » Tue May 06, 2008 2:16 pm

I did the replacement on this car last weekend. I used the method described above, only I used loctite plastic/vinyl adhesive on the sides and bottom and only velcro-ed the top.It looks pretty crap, I'll admit, but it was only my first try and it's still WAY better than what I had.Before: After:

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Postby S13xCrazy » Tue May 06, 2008 2:57 pm

looks a MILLION times better then before.

Just try and get it a little tighter next time

How did you remove the rear window?

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Postby The Inflicted » Tue May 06, 2008 5:00 pm

I actually didn't remove the the rear window, not all of it.The new window is glued to the old window with the vinyl adhesive and then the old window was cut out.

At least, that's what I SHOULD have done. I laid a piece of vinyl over the window and used a sharpie to mark where the lower edge was. Then, I cut along the line and glued the new vinyl to the old window. In order for this glue to make a good set you have to be sure and use sandpaper to rough up both the old and new vinyl. I let the glue dry, then measured and sharpie-ed around the rest of the window and cut it out. I then removed the old window using an exacto-knife, leaving about half an inch of vinyl all the way around. THIS WAS A MISTAKE! It turns out that the stock window is very tight and is pulling all the fabric together! When I removed the old window suddenly the new piece I cut out wasn't big enough anymore. I had to use the velcro along the top in order to make it long enough to reach. This is why it ended up bunching up so badly along the sides.

What I SHOULD have done:1. Leave old window in place.2. Lay new vinyl over old window.3. Sharpie the TOP of the new window to the old window and glue the TOP first (There's an overlapping piece of canvas that makes it hard to do the top last)4. Let top glue dry.5. Glue sides, making sure to leave enough new vinyl on the side to have something to pull on to leave no excess. It would help to have someone on the inside of the car to push outwards as you are pushing inwards to make sure the glue touches.6. Glue the bottom, again making sure to glue new vinyl to old vinyl and leave enough excess on the bottom to give your fingers something to grip onto and pull tight.7. Let all glue dry.8. Cut off excess new vinyl.9. From inside, CAREFULLY cut out old vinyl, making sure not to cut the new vinyl OR to cut off the old vinyl that the new vinyl is glued to.

At least, that's the procedure I THINK would work, given the mistakes I made.

At any rate, the new window is still a thousand times better than the old one, and after letting the glue cure overnight (like the bottle said) I was able to lower and raise the top without anything coming undone.

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Postby The Inflicted » Thu May 08, 2008 3:25 pm

We had a big storm today and....

NO LEAKS!

I've also had the top up and down a couple times and all the glue and velcro is still holding.

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Postby S15nS13vert » Thu May 08, 2008 4:32 pm

you d the man

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Postby onosqv » Fri May 09, 2008 9:29 am

That's pretty neat!

So, The Inflicted, the way you did it, you are gluing the inside of the new vinyl w/ the outside of the old vinyl - that means if someone were to look closer @ your car, they would see some of the old nasty vinyl from the outside correct?

Just trying to see if there is a way to do this w/ the minimal amount of old window visible.

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Postby The Inflicted » Fri May 09, 2008 10:20 am

brokeAs240sx wrote:That's pretty neat!

So, The Inflicted, the way you did it, you are gluing the inside of the new vinyl w/ the outside of the old vinyl - that means if someone were to look closer @ your car, they would see some of the old nasty vinyl from the outside correct?

Just trying to see if there is a way to do this w/ the minimal amount of old window visible.
Yes, but only along the bottom, since the canvas overlaps the plastic on the top and sides.Also, a neat side-effect of this glue is that it actually tends to restore the old vinyl a bit- I guess because it partially dissolves the upper layer and fills in the pores. At any rate, the sections of old vinyl that are visible don't look as bad as the old vinyl before the glue went on.

Not that care- I'm just happy I don't have to say the Lord's Prayer every time I back out of my parking spot!

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Postby The Inflicted » Fri May 09, 2008 10:46 am

Here's a pic of the worst-looking place.I could probably crawl inside and trim away a lot more material, but I don't want to risk leaks, and since I'm planning on re-doing the window again anyway I want to leave myself as much usable surface as possible.

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Postby sleepyeyed240 » Sat May 24, 2008 6:52 am

i have a replacment back window can i just do it or does it need to be sewn in or what

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Postby The Inflicted » Sat May 24, 2008 12:03 pm

sleepyeyed240 wrote:i have a replacment back window can i just do it or does it need to be sewn in or what
I'm not 100% sure, but based on what I've read the only way to get a new factory window into the factory top is to have a professional sew it in.

Now, I have read stories of people replacing the entire top themselves, but it's a major project and not something I'm ambitious enough to attempt.

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Postby -RJ- » Sat May 24, 2008 12:31 pm

i was just going to cut off the middle part of the window and glue the new window on with nail glue... or whatever that stuff is called. its not gonna be the best looking thing but my top is almost always down anyways

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Postby sleepyeyed240 » Sun May 25, 2008 10:42 am

The Inflicted wrote:
I'm not 100% sure, but based on what I've read the only way to get a new factory window into the factory top is to have a professional sew it in.

Now, I have read stories of people replacing the entire top themselves, but it's a major project and not something I'm ambitious enough to attempt.
the new window has fabric around it and everything and i was lookng at it and it looks like u can just put it in.. but im not sure.. someone must know!

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Postby The Inflicted » Mon May 26, 2008 7:57 am

-RJ- wrote:i was just going to cut off the middle part of the window and glue the new window on with nail glue... or whatever that stuff is called. its not gonna be the best looking thing but my top is almost always down anyways
If you're just going to do the middle portion don't sacrifice a rare factory window to do it- Wal-Mart's thickest vinyl wil be good enough.

Also, make sure you're using a glue that is specifically approved for vinyl. A lot of super glues and epoxies will melt right through it, or not make a good bond.I used Loctite's brand.

One other thing I would reccomend to make your window last longer and look clearer is using Plexus spray every couple weeks. I notice a big difference in clarity after using this stuff. They sell this at most paintball stores.
-RJ- wrote:i was just going to cut off the middle part of the window and glue the new window on with nail glue... or whatever that stuff is called. its not gonna be the best looking thing but my top is almost always down anyways

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Postby krash » Mon May 26, 2008 8:23 am

sleepyeyed240 wrote: the new window has fabric around it and everything and i was lookng at it and it looks like u can just put it in.. but im not sure.. someone must know!
Its a pain in the arse! I guess the toughest part is that you have to staple the curtain (the peice you were talking about) to one of the convertible bars and have it tight enough to make the rear window wrinkle free. and also when your stapling its hard to keep the actual fabric wrinkle free. IMO well worth it to shell out the $250 and get it done professionally.

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Re: rear window replacement 94 vert (stangalot)

Postby DoctorRobert » Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:26 am

I think this should be put up on the 240 Tech page...

I did it to my car. It's not perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than the previous owner's shower curtain job. It doesn't flap in the wind and I've been able to put the top down. Still waiting on the rain this weekend though. It looks a lot better than what I had in there, but it doesn't look totally un-crappy. I did have a hard thing to work with though. The original window had been cut out years ago, so everything was pretty messed up.

I'll post a picture of it soon.

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Postby numnutzzz » Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:43 pm

can't wait to see the results. I'm planning on doing the same soon.

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Re: (numnutzzz)

Postby BiXLL » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:01 pm

guys, I have not done this myself YET, but I found some links to buy vinyl better suited then just the WalMart stuff. These are UV treated, 40 mil thick and designed for more of what we are trying to do.

http://www.yourautotrim.com/40gaug27cle ... he...0.htm

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Postby -RJ- » Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:48 pm

word! i love you, the walmart where i live doesnt sell any thick vinyl

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Postby numnutzzz » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:13 pm

haven't gotten the chance to snap them pictures doctorRobert?


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