really low budget ka-t build and slow

[BIGTIMER_240]

whats up guys im a noob to this section of the forums im 17 going on 18 in a couple of days. i been having my car since i was 12 1/2. I have done everything to my car thanks to nico and the write ups i have done 5 speed swaps, sr swaps, ka swaps, and 5 lug conversions basicaly the basic for a 240sx. i decided i want to go ka-t im aming at 200-250 whp and then upgrading little by little. I know the routine SEARCH and i have been searching for some time now, i havent done anything to the car haven't check anything so this build is from the really start. my car is a 1989 hatch with a ka24de/5 speed swap.i have coilovers 3 tein he's and 1 superperdrift,nismo tension rods (think they are fake),front rear strut bars no name, vlsdfive lugz32 breaks all aroundpbm subframe collarsshort shifternardi 330mmapexi evo n1 catbackmegan test pipecustom headlightsz32 wheels 180sx tail lightsjdm chuki turn signals (ill post pics up later)

my build list is the following i am really new to this turbo thing so go easy on me. i know SEARCH but if anything is missing from the list let me know.t25/t28 turbojgs turbo lines sr turbo outletsr down pipessac/megan/cx manifold (sugestions pls)370cc injectorsefi specialist tune walbro 255lph fuel pumpfpr (sugestions what kind)hks ssqv bovjvt/cx radiatorcx intercooler and pipingoil,boost,water,and wideband afr gaugesstage 2/3 clutch boost controlerhks turbo timerbkr7e ngk sparkplugs

so thats my list if im missing anything please let me know thanks also i am on the lowest budget ever highschool student and no job yeah real tight with money . oh and sugestions on brands and cheaper ways to get my car done pls let me know

Modified by BIGTIMER_240 at 5:18 AM 6/2/2009
Modified by BIGTIMER_240 at 3:45 PM 6/2/2009

[gingerbredman]

Hmm.. Well to start you wouldn't need a fpr, not with upgraded injectors and a corresponding tune for the setup. I don't know about those other manifolds, but I bought a used XSPower top-mount manifold from a buddy a little while back, it looks decent enough. 3/8" flange, a brace from the flange to the turbo flange that's about 1/8" thick, however the spot where the runners come together where the turbo flange looks..bleh, so I'm smoothing it out with a dremel. Anyways, my buddy had his ka-t and never gave him problems and I've heard of plenty of SSAC manifolds cracking and stuff..

I'm tempted to recommend an F1 clutch.. I know I know, it's an Ebay clutch kit but me and my buddy both ordered stage 2 clutch kits and thus far we're both pleased with it, but in the long run we'll see I reckon.

The SR injectors and fuel pump should be pretty safe setup with a good tune for low boost.

Now, if you were extremely strapped for money then you go the cheapo way and do without the injectors and ecu tune and just get an FMU and retard timing a little bit.. Your plan's safer though, I'd stick to that.. don't do what I'm doing lol

[BIGTIMER_240]

i know i was reading up on the fmu but i still need to make my mind up im so broke that this project isn due till like next year lol. but yeah im ma do some more research.

[DroptopDrifting]

i got sr injectors, a safc, and other turbo stuff for sale if you need anything. check my sig for the link to my for sale thread

[BIGTIMER_240]

forgot to post i alredy have

t25elbowdown pipesr injectors

[WDRacing]

I don't like 370cc injectors and a rom tune. I'd always prefer to use bigger injectors, like 550cc. That way you only buy them once and they give room to grow.

The FPR is needed if you upgrade the fuel pump, which you need to do.

Any of the bottom mount cheapo manifolds will work just fine with the T25.

I'd sell the 370's and buy a FMU in the beginning. Then save for bigger injectors, 300zx (N62) MAF and a rom tune that matches that combo.

WD

[BIGTIMER_240]

yeah i was thinking of doing that but im really confuse about that setup with the fmu and how much whp will it make

[kouki_hmongster]

good list. honestly i dont like the idea of fmu, it's better to save up and buy an ecu tune by efi specialist, enthalpy, JWT...etc...NOTE: there are many reviews about different ecu tuners..so search... for your manifold you can get a ssac or even egay ones they are pretty much the same. also, megan dont make bottommount manifold for ka24de but some shop like p2m claims that they are made by Megan. if you're afraid then get someone to weld over for extra strength.

i rather you get 550cc nismo injectors, or some really good name brand injectors. i have nismo 740cc w/ enthalpy ecu and have good mpg. you dont want bad flow rate injectors that can destroy your project. z32maf would be okay but not necessary for t25 set-up. and yes get an aftermarket fpr something like aeromotive, dont cheap out on these stuff, they can seriously destroy your motor.

if you cannot afford or are not welling to pay good amount of $$ then i rather you stay away from the ka-t and go sr. i just dont want to hear from anymore blown motor thread.


Modified by kouki_hmongster at 7:04 PM 6/4/2009

[s13redmon]

sounds like fun man, i'm about to start building ka-t too, hopefully have it done by this time next year, or the one after that lol the main thing that i'm focusing on is the bottom end, which will be about $1000 (give or take) with the pistons, rods, bearings, and machine work. i don't want to spend all that money and throw a rod or melt a piston lol

[BIGTIMER_240]

well i guess ill get bigger injectors i know i dont got the the money but im not rushing this i have a spare ka, but its being rebuilt oem nuthing expensive. i know not to cheap on stuff thats why im here getting advice so if it takes more money ill have to save up but i really need some advice and i thank everybody for giving it.

[1mansho]

looks like you got pretty much everything!

[BIGTIMER_240]

ok i guess i have to star saving up and buying stuff ill update when i get parts

[BIGTIMER_240]

one more ? what gauges should i get. i mean are they all good quality? how about the megan ones and sunpro?

[WDRacing]

I use Autometer Gauges. The site I use for ALL of my universal parts is Summit Racing.

[BIGTIMER_240]

ok ill go check it out thanks. any input on the megan gauges i like how they look

[DevilMB3017]

ok ill go check it out thanks. any input on the megan gauges i like how they look

Outside of some special circumstances, you get what you pay for with cars.

Just keep that in mind.

[BIGTIMER_240]

yeah thats true but its just a gauge lol but something always goes bad with bad things i may give them a try thanks

[DevilMB3017]

It's not just a gauge...if you rely on it to know what your car is doing, it better be right! lol

[BIGTIMER_240]

i need som input on the afr gauges some say wideband afr and the otehr ones just say afr the wideband ones come with the digits and the other with just the color lights wich one should i get

[DevilMB3017]

i need som input on the afr gauges some say wideband afr and the otehr ones just say afr the wideband ones come with the digits and the other with just the color lights wich one should i get

You *must* have a wideband with digits if you want to know your AFRs.

This is because when a NA motor is rich (12.5 AFR), that is actually where you want a turbo motor to be in boost/load. Those ones with just a light that don't say wideband are just lights, they won't help you do anything.

[BIGTIMER_240]

oh ok thanks