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Black Means Right, White Means Wrong
by The Southern Avenger26 September 2003
Matthew Dixon was fired three years ago from a Coburg dairy plant after a black man complained about a Confederate flag Dixon was sporting on his toolbox. Dixon has taken his case to court and now is involved in a legal tug-of-war within the federal court system. The Avenger wishes Mr. Dixon good luck, but I don't have much faith in our federal courts. Their decision is really of no interest to me.
But what I am interested in is the psychology of this situation. Let's imagine if this situation were reversed. What if Dixon - a white man - had been offended by a Malcolm X sticker on the black man's toolbox? After all, Malcolm X had once described the fatal plane crash of 120 white people as "a beautiful thing" - pretty offensive by anyone's standards. What do you think the reaction would have been to Dixon's complaint? If the management at Coburg attempted to fire the black man, we all know damn well we'd be hearing about a racial discrimination lawsuit. My guess is Coburg wouldn't dare to even approach the black man and would tell Dixon to mind his own business.
So why does a white man get fired for something that we know would never happen if his skin were a different color? Why are the black man's feeling automatically indulged and the white man's feelings automatically disposable?
And therein lies the real problem. In this country, what originally started out as "white guilt" for past injustices has now evolved into full blown cultural fascism where every controversy is settled not by determining who's right and who's wrong - but what color you are. In a sane world, Coburg's reaction to the black man's complaint would have been to grow up and get over it. Hell, I don't even think the black man would have even complained if he didn't know that the cards were already in his favor. He wins because he's black and Dixon loses because he's white - it's that simple. And until the day comes when we begin to value reason more than race, the Southern Avenger believes we will all remain losers.
Read some of this guys commentary........He makes alot of good points.
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Re: Read some of this guys commentary........He makes ... (Bandit240)
I can see the guys point. Its unfortunate that its become a question of this guys job. I wonder why the guy has the flag on his toolbox in the first place. History buff? Redneck racist? Proud southerner or KKK leader? Who knows? I think the only way we can get around this kind of problem is to try to eliminate the lines, from both ends. I think the law of the land can only do so much. These kind of attitudes and first impressions have been handed down for many generations. Its up to each of us, todays generation, to recognize no difference in people on the outside. This guys flag may have, or may have not, been an indication of his personality. I wonder if both of these guys could have had alot in common and become friends. Maybe open a buisness together that changes the world, who knows. Unfortunate.
Of course blacks are allowed to be racist while whites aren't, I mean we ensalved them and all. Oh wait, that wasn't actually us, and it wasn't actually them. But still, that excuses it, right? Like if I made a skit show or became a stand-up comic whose bits relied solely on degrading and making fun of black people, that would be wildly popular, even with the black people?
Somehow I doubt I'd either live very long or be able to show my face in public for fear of the media's retribution for my pure and unadultered bigotry, but aslong as it's making fun of "crackers," it's F-ing hilarious and perfectly acceptable, right?
Somehow I doubt I'd either live very long or be able to show my face in public for fear of the media's retribution for my pure and unadultered bigotry, but aslong as it's making fun of "crackers," it's F-ing hilarious and perfectly acceptable, right?
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It is indeed a sad commentary.
The same "ignorance" that is perceived when one sees the Stars and Bars is the same ignorance that leads one to believe it stands for Black oppression and racism.
If people only knew the truth about such matters, there'd be a lot more harmony in the world.
Call me insensitive, but I have yet to meet a Black man affected by slavery, a Jew impacted by the Holocaust or a Native American displaced by colonization.
The same "ignorance" that is perceived when one sees the Stars and Bars is the same ignorance that leads one to believe it stands for Black oppression and racism.
If people only knew the truth about such matters, there'd be a lot more harmony in the world.
Call me insensitive, but I have yet to meet a Black man affected by slavery, a Jew impacted by the Holocaust or a Native American displaced by colonization.
malcolm x is not a good reference to a confederate flag...
more like zwashtika to confederate flag...
Sure the confederacy did not go to the let's "kill them all" extent, but it's symbolism is well founded...
I think what malcolm x meant was more of a stereotype kind of deal. Where if you've only known white men who treat you like an inferior being all your life, then you kinda start thinking all of them are the same...
Would I be comfortable as an employer with a guy who sports a zwashtika or confederate flag in my workplace? Probably not. Would the courts favor his wrongful termination and "free speech" clamor case? I'd guess yes..
more like zwashtika to confederate flag...
Sure the confederacy did not go to the let's "kill them all" extent, but it's symbolism is well founded...
I think what malcolm x meant was more of a stereotype kind of deal. Where if you've only known white men who treat you like an inferior being all your life, then you kinda start thinking all of them are the same...
Would I be comfortable as an employer with a guy who sports a zwashtika or confederate flag in my workplace? Probably not. Would the courts favor his wrongful termination and "free speech" clamor case? I'd guess yes..
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I've might quite a few Holocaust survivors-- sad sh*t....
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History books are TERRIBLY inaccurate on the topic of slavery, but people don't like to hear that.
Growing up in Vicksburg, Mississippi (one of the most famous Civil War battles was fought there), I was quite a war buff as a youth.
Some falsehoods:
*Slavery did not exist N of the Mason-Dixon line*The Civil War was "to free the slaves"*Southern slaves were not permitted to own land*All slaves were Black or of African descent
There are SO many misconceptions about the topic it's absurd.
Interesting how that guy freaks out about a Confederate flag (look up its true meaning) but a "Rising Sun" or a hammer&sickle won't even elicit a response...
Selective concern (and misinformed reactions) are truly a sign of ignorance.
BTW, this is one of those instances where I'd say, just remove the sticker - it's impossible to educate every "do-gooder" who misinterprets it.
Growing up in Vicksburg, Mississippi (one of the most famous Civil War battles was fought there), I was quite a war buff as a youth.
Some falsehoods:
*Slavery did not exist N of the Mason-Dixon line*The Civil War was "to free the slaves"*Southern slaves were not permitted to own land*All slaves were Black or of African descent
There are SO many misconceptions about the topic it's absurd.
Interesting how that guy freaks out about a Confederate flag (look up its true meaning) but a "Rising Sun" or a hammer&sickle won't even elicit a response...
Selective concern (and misinformed reactions) are truly a sign of ignorance.
BTW, this is one of those instances where I'd say, just remove the sticker - it's impossible to educate every "do-gooder" who misinterprets it.
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I wasn't sure if I was gonna reply to this one or not but I thought it needed some additional perspective.
All black people think the Confederate Flag links to racism is a misnomer. The fact is it's heritage flows in more than just the Southern White population. I thought boxer and correctional officer Otis Green proved that on Fox's show, 'The Next Great Champ' by often times sporting a Stars and Bars doo rag while he trained. The word ignorance is thrown around just as loosely as the word racism and it's just as annoying. The link was created by those that flew the flag while preaching and participating in the hate. Kind of how the name Malcolm X comes up so frequently in a rebuttal. Malcolm didn't speak for all people of color. Just because he said he did doesn't mean he did. Does any White Supremacist giving a public speech speak for all Caucasians? Sounds absurd doesn't it. However, Malcolm didn't preach Black Supremacy, be preached aggressive equality which often leaves a question burning, "Which did he hate more? White people or inequality to White people?"
Should the guy have lost his job over this? No. Not if it wasn't against any sort of company policy. Should the other guy have made a big deal out of it? No. Not if he wasn't being verbally abused or harassed or treated in such a way that was not in accordance to company policy. Get what I'm saying. The Black man didn't fire the guy. The company fired the guy. Where is Coburg's statement to all of this? The fact is none of us were there or work for Coburg and my belief is neither does the Southern Avenger. You want to Avenge the South, come get rid of the Saints owner. All that talent going to waste.
And Greg, the information you provided is all accurate, but it's not news. I grew up right next door to Mississippi. I didn't know any slaves either but I know a gang of folks that fought for the right to vote, for the right to earn equal pay, for the right to work, shop and live in the same area as White folk. That wasn't in 1856, that was in 1956 brother. My great-grandparents, my grandparents, and my parents. What people call Black Rage isn't fueled by slavery, it's fueled by policemen turning waterhoses and dogs on black people in Florida, it's fueled by church after church being bombed and burned, it's fueled by the complete disregard of courts to abolish laws written when anybody other than White men were not considered equal.
I can't speak as a White man and I wouldn't try to. I think everyone is getting the short end of the stick except the innergovernment, anyway. For the record, Mr. Dixon will have an excellent case if there was nothing else involved with his termination. Only time will tell. I wish him luck too. I think a business that would entertain the notion of firing a man because he had a sticker of a flag on his toolbox should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law...if in fact that is the only reason he was fired.
The last thing I have to say is that....I'm hungry. I'm gonna go grab some sushi and a Bass beer.
All black people think the Confederate Flag links to racism is a misnomer. The fact is it's heritage flows in more than just the Southern White population. I thought boxer and correctional officer Otis Green proved that on Fox's show, 'The Next Great Champ' by often times sporting a Stars and Bars doo rag while he trained. The word ignorance is thrown around just as loosely as the word racism and it's just as annoying. The link was created by those that flew the flag while preaching and participating in the hate. Kind of how the name Malcolm X comes up so frequently in a rebuttal. Malcolm didn't speak for all people of color. Just because he said he did doesn't mean he did. Does any White Supremacist giving a public speech speak for all Caucasians? Sounds absurd doesn't it. However, Malcolm didn't preach Black Supremacy, be preached aggressive equality which often leaves a question burning, "Which did he hate more? White people or inequality to White people?"
Should the guy have lost his job over this? No. Not if it wasn't against any sort of company policy. Should the other guy have made a big deal out of it? No. Not if he wasn't being verbally abused or harassed or treated in such a way that was not in accordance to company policy. Get what I'm saying. The Black man didn't fire the guy. The company fired the guy. Where is Coburg's statement to all of this? The fact is none of us were there or work for Coburg and my belief is neither does the Southern Avenger. You want to Avenge the South, come get rid of the Saints owner. All that talent going to waste.
And Greg, the information you provided is all accurate, but it's not news. I grew up right next door to Mississippi. I didn't know any slaves either but I know a gang of folks that fought for the right to vote, for the right to earn equal pay, for the right to work, shop and live in the same area as White folk. That wasn't in 1856, that was in 1956 brother. My great-grandparents, my grandparents, and my parents. What people call Black Rage isn't fueled by slavery, it's fueled by policemen turning waterhoses and dogs on black people in Florida, it's fueled by church after church being bombed and burned, it's fueled by the complete disregard of courts to abolish laws written when anybody other than White men were not considered equal.
I can't speak as a White man and I wouldn't try to. I think everyone is getting the short end of the stick except the innergovernment, anyway. For the record, Mr. Dixon will have an excellent case if there was nothing else involved with his termination. Only time will tell. I wish him luck too. I think a business that would entertain the notion of firing a man because he had a sticker of a flag on his toolbox should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law...if in fact that is the only reason he was fired.
The last thing I have to say is that....I'm hungry. I'm gonna go grab some sushi and a Bass beer.
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^ Brilliant.
Well-said, Mr. Reliford.
For the record, I was exposed to our best-forgotten history at an early age. My elementary school in Ozark Alabama contained remnants of a past no American should be proud of - Twin water fountains, 10 feet apart, with the words 'colored' and 'white', still clearly visible under a few coats of light green school paint. Of course, this was the early 70's, and the school was fully integrated, but I clearly remember wondering why an entire populace felt it necessary to distinguish between "folks".
After moving around and living in so many different places, then finally settling in AZ (a very open and liberal environment), I finally saw the South through a different set of eyes during a trip back to North Carolina for business one year... Having been gone for so long, I forgot what it was like there. However, i soon recognized the big difference, and I don't know if it's a good thing or not - Blacks regard Whites with a sort of deference thet I had completely forgotten, kind of a "I know where I stand with you" passivity. My smiles and friendly comments to the hotel staff and waiters in the area I was staying were generally met with unusual reactions, either a "what are you up to" suspicion or an uncomfortable nod as they went about their business.
(Of course, it could have been that I'm just generally not too pleasant to look at. )
Jayson, willya be so kind to this man as to have a catfish sammich and a glass of grape KoolAid for me soon? Call me and remind me how it tastes - I miss the old days.
Well-said, Mr. Reliford.
For the record, I was exposed to our best-forgotten history at an early age. My elementary school in Ozark Alabama contained remnants of a past no American should be proud of - Twin water fountains, 10 feet apart, with the words 'colored' and 'white', still clearly visible under a few coats of light green school paint. Of course, this was the early 70's, and the school was fully integrated, but I clearly remember wondering why an entire populace felt it necessary to distinguish between "folks".
After moving around and living in so many different places, then finally settling in AZ (a very open and liberal environment), I finally saw the South through a different set of eyes during a trip back to North Carolina for business one year... Having been gone for so long, I forgot what it was like there. However, i soon recognized the big difference, and I don't know if it's a good thing or not - Blacks regard Whites with a sort of deference thet I had completely forgotten, kind of a "I know where I stand with you" passivity. My smiles and friendly comments to the hotel staff and waiters in the area I was staying were generally met with unusual reactions, either a "what are you up to" suspicion or an uncomfortable nod as they went about their business.
(Of course, it could have been that I'm just generally not too pleasant to look at. )
Jayson, willya be so kind to this man as to have a catfish sammich and a glass of grape KoolAid for me soon? Call me and remind me how it tastes - I miss the old days.
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I know that passivity well. And sorry, all out of Kool-Aid, but I bet I can rummage up some red pop.AZhitman wrote:Jayson, willya be so kind to this man as to have a catfish sammich and a glass of grape KoolAid for me soon? Call me and remind me how it tastes - I miss the old days.
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Red pop will work.
Bust a MoonPie for dessert, and I'll be truly jealous.
Bust a MoonPie for dessert, and I'll be truly jealous.
lol
Black vs. white?
None of that **** here. I see it sometimes, but Im not threatened by it. There's no reason to. Granted that Ive never seen any1 sporting the confederate flag, you can tell whou has a problem and who doesnt.
Best method for me to bridge the gap? White/Black jokes. Funny as hell and both sides get made fun of. I use black jokes quite often and I gots no probs. Some of you white folks should tune into Comicview on BET. Good stuff. Black people makin fun of white/black people. White people making fun of black/white people. Every1 has a good time.
Black vs. white?
None of that **** here. I see it sometimes, but Im not threatened by it. There's no reason to. Granted that Ive never seen any1 sporting the confederate flag, you can tell whou has a problem and who doesnt.
Best method for me to bridge the gap? White/Black jokes. Funny as hell and both sides get made fun of. I use black jokes quite often and I gots no probs. Some of you white folks should tune into Comicview on BET. Good stuff. Black people makin fun of white/black people. White people making fun of black/white people. Every1 has a good time.
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"Unity"
There's a war going down between my brothers tonight,I don't want no war going down, going down tonight.
Stop this warStop this war
Civilization? Ha! I call it as I see it.I call it bullsh*t, you know, I still cannot believe itOur evolution now has gone the way of hateA world evolved resolved in this stupid fate
Stop this warStop this war
All so different yeah, I say we're all the sameAll caught, you know, in the division game.Self destruction fast impending like a bullet.No one can stop it, once it's fired, no one can control it.
Stop this warStop this war
A final word, wait it's not a call to actionWe ain't no sect, no, this ain't no f*cking faction.Unity, unity, unity you've heard it all before.This time it's not exclusive - we want to stop a war.
Stop this warStop this war
Ain't nothing wrong with another unity songAin't nothing wrong with another unity songAin't nothing wrongAin't nothing wrongAin't nothing wrongAin't nothing wrong with a unity song
Stop this warStop this war
Unity, as one stand togetherUnity, evolution's gonna come
There's a war going down between my brothers tonight,I don't want no war going down, going down tonight.
Stop this warStop this war
Civilization? Ha! I call it as I see it.I call it bullsh*t, you know, I still cannot believe itOur evolution now has gone the way of hateA world evolved resolved in this stupid fate
Stop this warStop this war
All so different yeah, I say we're all the sameAll caught, you know, in the division game.Self destruction fast impending like a bullet.No one can stop it, once it's fired, no one can control it.
Stop this warStop this war
A final word, wait it's not a call to actionWe ain't no sect, no, this ain't no f*cking faction.Unity, unity, unity you've heard it all before.This time it's not exclusive - we want to stop a war.
Stop this warStop this war
Ain't nothing wrong with another unity songAin't nothing wrong with another unity songAin't nothing wrongAin't nothing wrongAin't nothing wrongAin't nothing wrong with a unity song
Stop this warStop this war
Unity, as one stand togetherUnity, evolution's gonna come