RB26 oem connecting rods VS Eagle ESP connecting rods

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What rod would you go with and why?


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Depends on your goals. How much power do you want?

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OEM

Eagle = Chinese

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kjlindgr wrote:OEM

Eagle = Chinese
Eagle, thats what I run.

Might be Chinese, but its been proven time and time again.

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Would like to be able to handle 700-750 rwhp even if it doesn't ever make it. I wouldn't mind spending more to get a better rod but, spending $1300 on a set a connecting rods is out of the question.

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Pay now or pay later. That's usually how these things go.

People have their own preferences and biases. Some say JE and Wiseco pistons are the dogs balls. I think they are junk. Some say Eagle rods are awesome. Manufacturing tolerances and stringent material certification standards speak for themselves.

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i don't think Eagles are rated for 700+ horsepower. I believe they're 550 hp rods if I remember correctly.

I just put RB26 rods in, but my goal is only 550hp down the road.

Not worth spending an extra $1,000 for the small chance I'll get over 550 hp.

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My JE and Eagle combo is supposed to be good for 900+ and 35 psi.... Not that I'll ever see it but I'm more than sure its plenty for my setup currently.

Everyone has their preferences, for instance I don't buy HKS anymore after the deal with my cam-shafts. Another company will get my money but not them. Not that it really is going to matter, its just how I feel.

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The eagles should be fine, I knew a guy on my socal dsm list that ran them in his GSX. He was hitting 700whp with them.

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I've went 520whp on my SR with Eagle rods. I don't have a problem with them. Not only that, they seemed lighter then stock rods. That's 130whp per rod. So an engine with 2 more rods should be able to do it just as easy. I am not being biased towards certain names or where they are made, just go with the results I've gotten. A friend of mine with a built KA-T for instance will never go with Wiseco pistons anymore because of severe piston slap during startup and light slapping after warmed after he bored and gapped etc per spec of the Wiseco specification sheet.(Turned out one of his piston's wrist pin location was off by 0.5mm causing the lip of the piston to occassionally tap the head.) I've had minor slap from Wiseco in the past in my Honda days so I've always went with CP's and never looked back. Like I said, names and where they came from can be one thing, but proven numbers on paper are another. From my experience with Eagle, I wouldn't mind throwing in a set for my RB project (and CP pistons of course )

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So how much can the 26 rods hold?

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John Bristot wrote:So how much can the 26 rods hold?
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John Bristot wrote:So how much can the 26 rods hold?
Really depends on tuning, but they hold good power with arp bolts. 5-600 hp no prob. Eagle rods are heavy. Probably the heavyest in the aftermarket.

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RB25 rods do not bend at 550hp (mostly because the pistons fail first), so the RB26s probably won't either. Fasteners are the weak link there. I'll let you guys know if my RB26 rods can't handle the 500+hp I'm planning on putting down this summer.

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I will be pushing some prepped RB26 rods to the limit to see what they can handle as well... def 600+

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I went with the Eagles. Got them for $328 shipped. Couldn't pass it up.

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jdmser wrote:I went with the Eagles. Got them for $328 shipped. Couldn't pass it up.
You building a RB24?

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kjlindgr wrote:Some say JE and Wiseco pistons are the dogs balls.
Are the dogs balls good or bad?

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cdorhout wrote:i don't think Eagles are rated for 700+ horsepower.
i emailed Eagle when i bought my rods and asked what kind of power i can throw at the rods before i bend one. the eagle rep told me "you can see 1000+ on the rods you ordered"

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s13point5 wrote:
i emailed Eagle when i bought my rods and asked what kind of power i can throw at the rods before i bend one. the eagle rep told me "you can see 1000+ on the rods you ordered"
Eagles are completely made in china, which means they tend to hit or miss as far as the tolerances go. I wouldn't be surprised if they did hold up to that power level but, you'd be taking a huge risk. I have seen quite a few brand new eagles that are out of round on the main side. Even carillos are manufactured in china but at least they are finished here in the U.S. I would highly consider Pauter or Crower rods for high hp applications. Also like someone mentioned above, make sure you at least upgrade the rod bolts...

-Bluefire

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Bluefire wrote:
Eagles are completely made in china, which means they tend to hit or miss as far as the tolerances go. I wouldn't be surprised if they did hold up to that power level but, you'd be taking a huge risk. I have seen quite a few brand new eagles that are out of round on the main side. Even carillos are manufactured in china but at least they are finished here in the U.S. I would highly consider Pauter or Crower rods for high hp applications. Also like someone mentioned above, make sure you at least upgrade the rod bolts...

-Bluefire
Eagles come with ARP 2000 rod bolts, as do many other rod manufacturers.

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Double posted...
Modified by ItzGenX at 3:37 PM 4/27/2008

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ItzGenX wrote:
Eagles come with ARP 2000 rod bolts, as do many other rod manufacturers.
L-19 > 2000

-Bluefire

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The ARP 2000 bolts will handle anything you throw at it unless you are slapping them on a HUGE crank and winding that thing 10,000 rpm. With that said, most of our applications do not need L19's unless we are running highly modified drag or road course cars revving to 12k. Even Pauter rods are normally supplied with ARP 2000 rod bolts. I've seen them first hand on my friend's KA 240 and S2000 (both cars run Pauter supplied with ARP 2000). I mean sure L19's may be better, but turn the faucet off to any pissing contest, and you'll see that 2000's are more then good enough for most applications.


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