RB25DETand power train in a 78 280z

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I was wondering i know it probly requires alot of frame body modifications. from what i rember the RB25DET, RB26DETT and its power train is awd the 280z is not. now im an engineer and can work up the specs and to the custom modification my self. but i was wondring if there is a rwd tranny that willl hook up to the motor.


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The RB25DET is RWD so it works quite well. RB26DETT will work as well with the RB25 tranny. I dont recall there being much modifications being done with the RB25 other than motors mounts and tranny mounts.

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the RB26DETT cam in the skyline GTR AWD, the RB25DET came in the RWD Skyline GTS, the rb 25 trans will bolt up to the 26, the only other mod is the oil pan, the RB26 AWD had a shaft coing through the oil pan, on both motors the oil pan and pickup should be swapped with the RB20DET which outs the sump at the rear which will allow for bolting into the S30 chassis with the RB20 engine moutns, supposedly this puts the engine a bit forward and high s it's best to custom fab some engine mount brackets on the crossmsmber

aside form that, custom driveshat and trans mount and you're done

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evildky wrote:the RB26DETT cam in the skyline GTR AWD, the RB25DET came in the RWD Skyline GTS, the rb 25 trans will bolt up to the 26, the only other mod is the oil pan, the RB26 AWD had a shaft coing through the oil pan, on both motors the oil pan and pickup should be swapped with the RB20DET which outs the sump at the rear which will allow for bolting into the S30 chassis with the RB20 engine moutns, supposedly this puts the engine a bit forward and high s it's best to custom fab some engine mount brackets on the crossmsmber

aside form that, custom driveshat and trans mount and you're done
I believe the rear sump you are refering to is the RB20DET equiped 200ZR.http://www.nismoparts.com/catalog/?section=756

Castlemaine Rod Shop in Australia produces a mount for RB motors into the S30's. http://www.rodshop.com.au/mounts.htm The part number is EM81 3 Litre Turbo RB30 To Datsun 260ZBelow are some photos of the mounts on a RB20 block I used for a test mock up.

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nice, and yeah I guess I didn't specify the ZR200, I forgot there were other applications for the RB20, keep us posted n your swap I'd love to see ti come together

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for all of the work and money involved in swapping a rb you could do a 7mgte making 400+whp and have a couple grand left in the bank.

http://forums.hybridz.org/show...7mgte

does require a new head gasket and overtourquing the head bolts, plus motor & transmission mounts and custom exhaust, wire harness splicing and a few other goodies, but the budget is 1/3 that of an RB and can make just as much power (technically more on stock fuel).

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Fahaka wrote:for all of the work and money involved in swapping a rb you could do a 7mgte making 400+whp and have a couple grand left in the bank.

http://forums.hybridz.org/show...7mgte

does require a new head gasket and overtourquing the head bolts, plus motor & transmission mounts and custom exhaust, wire harness splicing and a few other goodies, but the budget is 1/3 that of an RB and can make just as much power (technically more on stock fuel).
or for even less money you can get 400+whp from the L6, just depends on what you got and where you want to spend your money

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Kew kew i wasent shure on skylines i looked into importing one but i decied to buy a masaritie instead andwith the money i saved fix up and old z

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evildky wrote:or for even less money you can get 400+whp from the L6, just depends on what you got and where you want to spend your money
I doubt you could make 400whp with an l28 (or l28et) for less than you could with a 7mgte, even including fabbing motor & transmission mounts, exhaust, reworking the headgasket and getting a bigger turbo.

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$350 complete donor turbo car I sold enough parts off it to pay for the parts I kept$350 megasquirt and wiring$25 edis at the junkyard$300 I/C and piping (this woud be a cheap crossflow with galvanized piping$750 T3O4E with internal wastegate and watercooled centersection$60 DSm 450 cc injectors$120 aeromotive FPR$100 Pallnet fuel rail$100 bosch high flow fuel pump$200 for mandrel bends and turbo flange for somplete exhaust$2355 this is enough to get you to 400 whp, the block might not last long but it'll get you there

it could be done for less if you use a junkyars HY35 turbo and junkyard I/C, injectors, and you could make adapters instead of using the billit fuel rail, and the stock turbo electronic;'s can be sold for about $500 to help further offset cost, you could also run the HEI ignition and save a few bucks

how much does it cost to buy the toyota mota?

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You should visit and read http://www.hybridz.org/, in there you will find all of the information you need for the swap, I beleive that there is a shop in dallas or ft worth that makes a full mounting kit for the rb swap.

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evildky wrote:...how much does it cost to buy the toyota mota?
You can land a 7m for pretty cheap $200-$800 depending on the condition. With stock fuel, lexus afm, fuel cut defenser and a t3/to4e plus the install stuff and you are at 400+, but definately more than $3k for the whole install.

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thats not soo bad but I'd still stick with the L6 which is alredy in the car, I was just thinking 2JZ, the fastest street tire S30 is 2JZ powered and runs 9's,.... on street tires! it makes a god bit more than 400whp and cost a lot more than an L6

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evildky wrote:thats not soo bad but I'd still stick with the L6 which is alredy in the car, I was just thinking 2JZ, the fastest street tire S30 is 2JZ powered and runs 9's,.... on street tires! it makes a god bit more than 400whp and cost a lot more than an L6
so the l6 is the motor in the car allredy i not a big nissan person but i have seen other with this same setup but if the stock motor is easy enough to mod to get really nice highway results then i may stick with it

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the L6 refers to Nissan/Datsun isingle overhead cam nline 6 cylinder motors of the "L series, it includes the:L20A, 2.0 liters carb'edL24, 2.4 liters carb'dL26, 2.6liters carb'dL28E, 2.8 liters, fuel injectedL28ET, 2.8 liters fuelinjected and turbochargedLD28, 2.8 diesel, there are a few other oddballs but thats 99% of what you'll findthe L6's are all the same externally so any one can be swapped for another,a dn you can swap cylinder heads and crankshafts to modify compression and stroke etc.you're 78 would have come with a 160hp L28, you can simpl;y bolt int he 82-83 280ZX turbo motor (L28ET) and you now have 180hp, turn up the boost, add larger injectors, and an Intercooler and you can get near 300hp at the wheel! remember the stock ratings are at the crank, and with a larger turbo and better injection system 400 whp can be had, and with custome forged internals well at that point it's abot as cheap to do the toyota or rb motor, and best of all you don't hae to change you're tranny or engine mounts, or radiator hoses

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Kew thx for the info i think i might go that route instead i mean i done a few motor swaps on civics and us cars but hum i looked into all the rb26 need and well its worth it in the end but atm i dont think that would be the best rout let me try that l28et motor blow it then well go for the rb26 ill have pic as soon as i get the car in the shop


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