RB25det in s13 - which sway bar?

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OK, sorry, I searched but I can only browse so much from a mobile phone.

I need input or advice for a sway bar for my rb25 in my s13. I saw the thread previously and looked into the 'sikky' bar, but its on back order and I've already waited about a month.

I was looking into the tanabe and wanted to know if anyone has used it with an rb25 in an s13 with McKinney motor mounts?

Fyi the whiteline sway bar will not clear.

Thanks.


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hey Brad,

We'll have the exact sway bar you'll need shortly from McKinney.

Designed for the McKinney Motor Mount Kits (and will work with other swaps). Upgraded front sway bar with endlinks, designed to optimize oil pan clearance and ground clearance.

I'll keep you updated once we have them in hand as they're being tested at the moment.

Shoot me an email.

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Coolwhip wrote:hey Brad,

We'll have the exact sway bar you'll need shortly from McKinney.

Designed for the McKinney Motor Mount Kits (and will work with other swaps). Upgraded front sway bar with endlinks, designed to optimize oil pan clearance and ground clearance.

I'll keep you updated once we have them in hand as they're being tested at the moment.

Shoot me an email.
Keep us posted. I would be interested if they are available for S14.

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Coolwhip wrote:hey Brad,

We'll have the exact sway bar you'll need shortly from McKinney.

Designed for the McKinney Motor Mount Kits (and will work with other swaps). Upgraded front sway bar with endlinks, designed to optimize oil pan clearance and ground clearance.

I'll keep you updated once we have them in hand as they're being tested at the moment.

Shoot me an email.
Yes, but how long are we talking about waiting here though?

Like I've said, I've looked into the SIKKY one, already PAID for it in fact, but it's on back order. I'd rather get the McKinney and keep the quality and name for the parts, but I have had my car ready to go since the end of November but I have been waiting 2+ Months for a sway bar before I get it aligned and drive it...

Also, any idea on Price? If it's at a good price point I will cancel my Sikky order and wait for the McKinney one...

Keep us updated though, thanks for the reply.


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i have the same problem! i've been looking into which sway bar will clear my oil pan on my rb25 with mckinney mounts. let me know what you end up doin to resolve your issue!

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Okay, so I am really running out of time to wait for a sway bar here, I have to get my car on the road soon.

Before I order it and have to pay for shipping twice + a restocking fee:IS ANYONE HERE USING A TANABE SWAY BAR ON THEIR S13 WITH AN RB25DET WITH MCKINNEY MOTOR MOUNTS?

Also, separate question.

I could easily find more time to wait by reinstalling the stock sway bar. However, I have just installed all new suspension arms and need to get it all aligned. If I go ahead, reuse the stock sway bar, and then get an alignment, when I get the new sway bar, will I need to get my front end realigned or will the sway bar not affect it? I am thinking it will not affect it but I have not heard a good enough answer/reasoning for either yet...

Thanks..♠

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Switching sway bars won't necessitate a realignment. I can't give you any reasoning other than to say think about what a sway bar does. It acts a spring with a strength relative to the difference in compression between the left and right sides of the suspension acting to negate the difference (body roll). This doesn't change the alignment of anything.

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Crazyirish wrote:Switching sway bars won't necessitate a realignment. I can't give you any reasoning other than to say think about what a sway bar does. It acts a spring with a strength relative to the difference in compression between the left and right sides of the suspension acting to negate the difference (body roll). This doesn't change the alignment of anything.
I was assuming the same thing under the same logic however the Shop I am getting an alignment done at has suggested getting a new alignment after the change.. (well of course, more $$$ for them...) but I didn't see a need as it won't affect height which is probably the biggest cause for me to need a realignment.

If Ricky can assure us that the McKinney bar is going to be as good, and actually come as promised, I suppose I could use stock for now, drive it easy, and wait for the McKinney bar.

I just want the car on the road so I can prep for paint and quit spending so much $$ on gas. Thanks for the reply.

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I talked to Ricky, aka Coolwhip, the other day and he said he should have something on the sway bars in the next couple days. If you can wait, wait. RawBrokerage is the shi*.

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thanks, I had planned on waiting for McKinney's, the company SIKKY is apparently redesigning their end-links and it's already been like 2+ months and they have ~300 of my $, so I'm just going to get it back and order the McKinney one...

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We are doing the testing on the McKinney sway bars and if everything checks out good... We will have these ready shortly.

If there is enough interest I will start a group buy for all those that are waiting...

Here is an idea of what you can expect, besides some minor changes for the final product...


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Reserve my purchase for the sway bar kit on the Group Buy. I nearly rubbed a 1/8"-3/16" out of my RB26 pan due to it hitting, even with spacers.......

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Ramius83 wrote:Reserve my purchase for the sway bar kit on the Group Buy. I nearly rubbed a 1/8"-3/16" out of my RB26 pan due to it hitting, even with spacers.......
Will be testing the fitment of a modified and enlarged RWD RB26 pan in S13 with shortly and will make sure they fit for similar setups like yours.

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looks great, update us on prices & specs (thickness?) when you can!

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Front and rear bars are solid bars (not hollow)Comes with all new hardwareFront bars are 27mm thickRear bars are 20mm thickComes with poly bushing and endlinks on all corners.

Working on pricing but we're looking at a price of $300 a bar on the high side. I figure out some group pricing once we get production ready.

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Forgive my ignorance.

Ricky:Would this be for the S13, S14, both?
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Interesting.......

My swaybar is spaced out right now.IIRC I used about an inch worth of aluminum to space my bar out.I can get a zip tie or a piece of paper in between that and the pan.

But... Spacing out the sway bar, wouldn't that affect the performance of it?Since the mounting point are now 1" inch lower, I would lose X inch/lbs of force from my bar right?? Or am I overthinking it.

Either way I like that these bars actually fit!!!

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i have the suspension techniques sway bars, they work well. but raw brokerage will definatly not steer you wrong, so the mckinney might be a better option cuz they know whats what.

also, i know here in san antonio "brake check" chain stores do a "lifetime alignment", it's about 1.5 times the ammount for just 1 time, but if you upgrade anything, you can take it back to them for just $3 (some service charge) and they will re-align it. so maybe check into that. but the swaybar shouldnt affect your alignment, the other suspension arms do that.

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WhatsADSM wrote:Forgive my ignorance.

Ricky:Would this be for the S13, S14, both?

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We're testing both the S13 front bar and S14 front bar, so to answer your question, they're chassis specific. Including respective rear bars.

McKinney had made these bars to move up and around large front oil pans found in our swaps including other swaps. We'll be testing fitment on several of the popular mounting kits with various oil pan setups so rest assure these are exactly what EVERYONE needs in the swap process.

Fitment pics soon

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Coolwhip wrote:
We're testing both the S13 front bar and S14 front bar, so to answer your question, they're chassis specific. Including respective rear bars.

McKinney had made these bars to move up and around large front oil pans found in our swaps including other swaps. We'll be testing fitment on several of the popular mounting kits with various oil pan setups so rest assure these are exactly what EVERYONE needs in the swap process.

Fitment pics soon
Great! Yea I am definately in need of a solution for a front bar. Keep us posted. Any ETA? Racing season is coming up for us snowbirds

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Ricky:

I'm definitely interested in a group buy for the front sway bar for an S13 with McKinney Mounts. I need a sway bar that will clear my this modified RB26 aluminum oil pan.

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will be testing just the thing

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I'm interested to see how they fit with that 26 oil pan too...

as for fitting a whiteline swaybar with the 25 i think i used 1/4" thick aluminum to space the swaybar down some, now i have almost 1/4" clearance to the pan as it was just touching without the spacers, i thought i took pics of it but i cant seem to find them...

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i have an 89 s13 with an rb with light blue whiteline sway bar sand tophat mounts and the sway bars clear the rb25det oilpan just fine

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jrb92se wrote:i have an 89 s13 with an rb with light blue whiteline sway bar sand tophat mounts and the sway bars clear the rb25det oilpan just fine
light blue? my bar is silver and yellow. you might have an older version.

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they are at least 5 years old now and dont hold me to this but may actually have originally been for a s14 also i have top hat mounts

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Coolwhip wrote:We are doing the testing on the McKinney sway bars and if everything checks out good... We will have these ready shortly.

If there is enough interest I will start a group buy for all those that are waiting...

Here is an idea of what you can expect, besides some minor changes for the final product...
any word on these?

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been extremely backed up and trying to get more test fitting done. I'll update the group.

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Just talked to Ricky at RawBrokerage...aka Coolwhhip...hence the h in coolwhip. Love family guy.. Anyway, i will be picking up one of his sway bars today to test out with my s-13 RB. I have the most updated Zerolift mount kit with Meghan racing Motor mounts. With the Meghan Mounts I can fit a almost a finger between the oil pan and the sway bar, if i remember correctly. I hadstock mounts in it for a little while and the sway bar touched the oil pan.. not good

I will be installing it tomorrow, and sending an a*s load of before and after pics with all the clearances to Ricky. So for all of you out there needing one, he is trying to get these out ASAP, but doesn't want to send out something people will have problems with.

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any update on these?


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