RB25 NEO Head Cracked! seeking replacement, what works?

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Cjmartz2k wrote:That would be a tough one, but I'll keep my eyes open. Is it a stock Nissan part? If so, can you just get the number off FAST and order it from Nissan?
I do need the stock nissan part. I found on here the "Clutch Cover" i need from the R34 GTR.

R34 GTR

Disc- 30100-0V708Cover-30210 - AA300Bearing- 30502-12U00

Let me know if you see anything like this.-John


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I'll look, but I have never seen a turbo 5 speed R34 in a junk yard, let alone a GTR, so I wouldn't hold my breath. If you need to to hit up the dealership though, I can. I'd be surprised if you couldn't get it over there though if you gave them the part number. I'll ask my shop guy if he knows anything else those parts came on.

The head went out about an hour ago priority mail. They can't do tracking numbers since it starts out in the military postal system, but I did get it insured for $400 with delivery confirmation---$113.30 . They said 7-10 days.

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Cjmartz2k,

I just picked up the newly machined head from the machine shop last night with a bill totalling $498. I went to put the head on this morning and realized it is not the correct head. The intake manifold ports are very different and the overall diameter of the ports is a lot narrower than my previous head. I am in an incredible dilemma and am not happy at all. I thought you said this was an R34 Neo head? Can the ports be different on a RB25DE from an RB25DET? The intake manifold from the R34 neo will not bolt onto the head you sent me. Can you get me another head?

ORIGNAL NEO HEAD (R34 GTT RB25DET NEO)

2nd Head

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Just saw this, but I'm running out the door. That s*** sucks man. All the info I had said they were the same. I'll hit you up tomorrow when I get back and we'll figure something out. Does the intake even bolt up? It did come off a R34 Neo, but like I said before, it was an n/a. Don't worry, I won't leave you hanging. We'll figure something out.

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why not machine the greddy manifold to accept the de gasket and just run with it?would be cheaper than a new head...and would give increased port size.

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Carl H wrote:why not machine the greddy manifold to accept the de gasket and just run with it?would be cheaper than a new head...and would give increased port size.
The DET ports are a LOT bigger than the DE ports although it may not seem to be so from the picture. The overall diameter is larger, even though it looks like it bottle-necks on the DET. The CC's inside the head are far smaller than the DET which would result in different CR. Also, the neo DET cams push the valves too far out into the combustion chamber and i believe that the valve timing would overlap if the head was used with the Tomei cams for the DET neo. the machine shop would olny fully instal the exhaust cam, and left the intake cam cams evenly loose to allow the lobes to not depress the lifters which would result in the intake valves hitting the exhaust valves when rotating the cams to set the timing when the pistons are at TDC.

I have contacted a member of Skylines australia forums to source an R34 neo DET head, which i am awaiting a price quote for. I hope all goes well and i am able to get this new head for a reasonable price. I have over $14,000 into this build so far and still lack a running car.

As crazy as this may sound, this is my "daily driver". I was going for something a little extreme i realize that, but i never anticipated that it would be this difficult. I thought when i bought the car that it would need thing or two, not an entire head / cams, and everything else that goes with it.

Im going to keep going until this thing is running!!!

-John

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Does anyone know what the differences are on the various casting numbers of RB25 Heads. Ive got a few i need identified.

my original head was 5L8 4 (was an ER34 GTT neo head)the second head i got was 5L7 2 (which had different intake ports that didnt match my neo intake mani)found a head in australia that was 5L8 2and now ive got another head from japan on the way that was from a Laurel neo motor with 5L8 3

Can anyone help? i want to make sure that this new head will work! I figured the 5L7 is a non turbo head, where as the 5L8 is a turbo head. I just am not sure about that last number and whether it is important. -John

Original Head from the 1998 ER34 RB25DET Neo

The first head chris sent me from japan, he claims it is a non-turbo R34 neo head

I found this head in australia and it is from an R34 Neo.

This is the second head chris is sending me, from a Laurel 4dr auto sedan, neo head.


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Can anyone help to identify the head that i now have?


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