rb20/rb26 vs Ls1

Discuss the RB20, RB25 and RB26 series engines.
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240_hero13
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Haha na i hate reading those magazinesand idk why this has turned into me defending my selfim just wanting to know **** about what you guys have done and gone threw to maybe help me out if i run into those same problems and know what to look for

the only reason why i posted this **** was to find out some info on these motors and hopefully be able to work on one my self and have some knowlage to know what im getting into and all you guys are doing is feel all big because a guy comes in here not knowing something that you do and just try to bring it down

so your all saying you knew EVERYTHING as soon as you looked at a car??

exactly you may have gotten your info some where else but this is where i turned because it is a spacific site for what im looking to work on and do my self and people who work on that one spacific car if i was getting into a honda ide probably go get my knowlage from them not come to you guys

all im saying is that im asking for information to get started on knowing **** about these cars you have to start somewhere and some of u guys are just jumping all over my case because you know more than i do



240z4u
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I swapped/learned almost everything by bloody knuckles and reading schematics etc... I didn't use the forums for help very often. I didn't ask anyone to hold my hand, and I certainly didn't have as much great knowledge to look through on the internet as you do.

I earned the right to be a prick if I want to. Nobody HAS to be posting useful helpful information on forums. A lot of these questions are answered in hopes that the archives will help someone in the future.

What exactly DO you want to know? I really don't see any technical questions anywhere in this thread. You wanna know what LS vs. rb looks like? Start googling dyno sheets for both and your going to see REAL fast what the scenario is. Ride in a corvette... is that the kind of power delivery you want?

Evan

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Neejay
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Take it easy man. People are just trying to give words of wisdom/advice. The main point was trying to help you out before you spend $7-10k on a engine and then end up being ***-out.

No one is doubting you or your car skills/knowledge (can't, since no one knows you in person )

No need to get so defense. Just remember that most advice here is given from personal experience. :D

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lilskyline240
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Ultimately ppl arent going to spoon feed you here. If i found enough info by using this Forum to build my rb30det and get it to run in my car you should have no problem finding info on Rb vs Ls1 swaps. Personally i never though of puttin a V8 in my car because thats not me. If i wanted a V8 i woulda put an LS1 in a rx7.

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240_hero13
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im not getting offencive im just saying i just posted my question and got some answers and you guys have sorta just been going off topic twords me

but i just wanted to know which one is a better engine the rb series or the Ls and so far ive heard better reviews about the Ls and now im just asking why what makes them better to get actual facts from peoples respences about what makes them differnt and better instead of just going to a guy who coppied and cutt from a manuel

im going to learn more from blood and sweat but it doesnt hurt to spread your questions to get from both working and people like ou guys

see i dont have people that have really dont this stuff before just to go askthats why i come here

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Neejay
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It's cool man. I completely understand.

I, too, like to get personal opinions on things vs. just research, research, research.

I guess you've noticed by now though: it's all personal opinion/preference. You're going to have to make up your own mind based on your finances, goals, future plans (and life plans too).

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WhatsADSM
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The reason people are being rather rash with you is because of the following... And I agree with them BTW:

A) You are asking questions that there are MANY an answer, you simply just need to use the search button. Also try searching on the other forums like z i l v i a . n e t and f r e s h a l l o y . c o m (both of which have better search engines than here)

B) The question of what power output is "better" is a rather, pardon my internet lingo, n00bish question. If you seriously don't understand the power output / potential / aftermarket for the RB series and LSx engines, then most likely you won't be capable of completing a largely custom and expensive swap.

With that said I will add my $.02 on the original question:

The LSx is a great swap. Definitely more tricky to complete but it will reward you with better support, likely better reliability, and likely better powerband.

As for maximum power output... It is a moot point because both engines have seen CRAZY numbers if your pocket books are deep enough. The RB26 will do 400whp (and be a better bang for the buck than the LS1s) with minimal mods with a huge powerband if you keep the stock turbos. Once you get into the 600whp range the bang for the buck will probably be passed on to the LS1 simply due to the displacement....


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lilskyline240
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Well before you start learning about your car, you should learn on how not to say **** in your posts. It makes you sound extremely unintelligent.

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the ls1 hands down responds to bolts ons more then any other engine ive been around, but my rb26 with stock twins and power fc d-jetro i was able to put down close to 370rwhp and i really never had any serous issues mechancally with my rb. I do agree the the ls1 has its big advantage of having readily available parts but i am not the biggest fan of swapping american engines into japanese cars, cause its no longer really considered a japanese car anymore to me. but if you dont give a s-h-i-t then go for the ls1 cause your going to be able to get more power for less money but it is still a pushrod pile of crap to me.

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why is it a "pushrod pile of crap?" have you ever owned one? worked on one? ****, DRIVEN one?

this isnt a damn carbeurated small block we are talking about. it is COMPLETELY different than an old 350. it has more technology than you people think and just because it has pushrods and large displacement doesnt mean its garbage.

the ignorance on this board amazes me sometimes.

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I dont see why people are even responding to this thread, including myself....

This is like the same answer over and over....

Comparing these three engines is like comparing a pogo stick, a bouncy ball and a spring.... Sure they all bounce, but do it differently and perform differently.

Do you even know what you want to play with or how to use these things?

Joe
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this is ****ing stupid im locking it.

some of you need to pull your heads out of your asses


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