rb20 mount kit...help!!!ASAP...

Discuss the RB20, RB25 and RB26 series engines.
USCdrifter
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I have done some research and narrowed my choice down to mckinney or tophat mounts...which one should i get? I have my intake manifold shipping out of top hat on wednesday so I need to decide by today...

ThanksChris


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NISMO_RB25
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let's not start this debate again. Do some searching and decide for yourself.

For me personally, I went with the mckinney mounts for my R25. I found the quality to be great and instelation to be easy. I highly recomend them.

I never used the tophat mounts, so I have nothing good or bad to say about them.

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my mckinney mounts are great (rb20 s13)

I heard they used to have some problems with the mounts bending or warping....but they fixed the problem. i guess they changed the design or something. cant tell any of this from fact though just something the owner of motorsport dynamics in sacramento told me.

dont know any info for the top hat mounts but im sure there are threads. search around

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I have Top Hat mounts for my S13 w/ Rb20DET install and there were some issues, but not many ... If I could do it again it all depends on price.

USCdrifter
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well price is about the same. I have decided to go with mckinney. As soon as they reply my email..

ThanksChris

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USCdrifter wrote: As soon as they reply to my email..
that might be a while. you should just call them

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NISMO_RB25
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They always got back to me, but it usually took a day. They are extremely busy, but they always answered the phone when I called, so that is probably the best route.

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whatever you do don't use E&E motorsports mounts. They told me i was getting top hat mounts and sent me welded up janked up POS. Looks like the welds were done by a 10yr old trying to make a project in welding class. Also to mention they its like 1/8 in steel. CRAP. Oh yeah my transmission mount isn't even lined up what Phuck heads. I swear if I lived in GA Their shop would be burnt down. A55 wipes.

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Slo_240sx wrote:whatever you do don't use E&E motorsports mounts. They told me i was getting top hat mounts and sent me welded up janked up POS. Looks like the welds were done by a 10yr old trying to make a project in welding class. Also to mention they its like 1/8 in steel. CRAP. Oh yeah my transmission mount isn't even lined up what Phuck heads. I swear if I lived in GA Their shop would be burnt down. A55 wipes.
So tell us how you really feel! Wow.. remind me not to make crappy mounts and sell them to Slo_240sx anytime in the future!

This just proves how important word of mouth is. I am guessing they won't get a ton of business from member's of this forum.

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Definately not getting business once my word gets out. just wait till I get pics you won't believe what I got for 325. I was suppose to get a deal on "TOP HAT" mounts but I waited 2 months after they said they shipped then to get mocked up peices of ****. You will cry once I show you how bad these things are. lets just say my dad left them a very unplesant message and I'm gonna see if Eric has the ballz to call us back. Hes gotta have some Titanium, case-hardened, grade 8 BALLS to call us back. Lets see if hes a man that can live up to his word and reputation. Lets just say I spent 650 (I bought 2 sets 1 for a friend whos now pissed off) for a 10 year olds very first welding project. My 15 yr old sister could have welded better than this junk. I'll get those pics tomarrow and see if you agree.-Alex

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There is too much drama going on with top hat mounts or their distributors. Im going with mckinney...

Chris

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In response to the mounts situation... Alex I am sorry about the mounts you received, I would like for you to email me pics, because these went straight from my fab shop to you without my approval. We are having some issues right now with them and are currently in the process of finding a new shop to build them for us, we have sold about 16 sets built buy these guys included in our installs and shipped out in the past 2 months and you have been the first to have anything wrong with them, they are not made by Top Hat. Please email me the pics so I can see what the problem is. As for the kits you received, I had told you Top Hat was 3 weeks out before they were going to have any more, and it turned out being longer, since you had asked about theirs I told you about them , and then told you about ours and I could cut you a better deal. So you said ok, you'll take our mount kit. 95% of all work in our shop is RB swaps, we've never had a problem with our mounts. I do have Titanium, case-hardened, grade 8 BALLS because I did try calling your dad today, returining his message from Saturday, I was unaware of this situtaion because I was not informed, I just happened to glance at the forums tonight. If you had a problem I wish you would have notified someone at our shop so we can get the situtation taken care of for you. I am sorry about the time frame of the shipment, I was out of town and our parts manager had been sick, and as far as I knew you had them on your car already, with no problems. So give us a call if you want this resolved, if not keep complaining on the forums, doesn't do you any good to not talk to the source of the problem,

Thank you, have a nice day.Ehttp://www.e-emotorsports.com
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I am really upset at the poor quality of the sets. We called numerous times and left messages for you to call us back and you never did and that was when my boss left the last message. If you Included them in you installs then you know what they should look like since you have gotten them also and I pray to god your fab shop changed the type of material thickness, welds and cutting technique because if I paid you to do the install I wouldn't want those poorly made mounts included. The ONLY reason I am bad mouting your shop is because we even told you we would if you were not willing to correct the problem on all of our messages left during working hours. It took me close to 2 months to get the mounts, after you said you shipped them the first week and could not supply me with a tracking number. As for "buring your shop down" that was inappropriate it never should have been said so I am sorry for that. Here is what I will do for my part. I will goto my shop right now - get pictures for you and everyone else. Once you see the poor mickey moused job of them, trade shoes with me and tell me you would have done after trying to reach me for over another 2 months. I believe everyone here has good judgement lets see what the mounts look like and post your thoughts. Eric, if you can honestly correct this problem then you I will take back everything i said and you will have redeemed yourself.

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Slo_240sx wrote:I am really upset at the poor quality of the sets. We called numerous times and left messages for you to call us back and you never did and that was when my boss left the last message. If you Included them in you installs then you know what they should look like since you have gotten them also and I pray to god your fab shop changed the type of material thickness, welds and cutting technique because if I paid you to do the install I wouldn't want those poorly made mounts included. The ONLY reason I am bad mouting your shop is because we even told you we would if you were not willing to correct the problem on all of our messages left during working hours. It took me close to 2 months to get the mounts, after you said you shipped them the first week and could not supply me with a tracking number. As for "buring your shop down" that was inappropriate it never should have been said so I am sorry for that. Here is what I will do for my part. I will goto my shop right now - get pictures for you and everyone else. Once you see the poor mickey moused job of them, trade shoes with me and tell me you would have done after trying to reach me for over another 2 months. I believe everyone here has good judgement lets see what the mounts look like and post your thoughts. Eric, if you can honestly correct this problem then you I will take back everything i said and you will have redeemed yourself.
that sounds fair.show us the pics and we'll decide that shops fate as far as mounts go

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Okay here are the pictures, tell me what you guys think of this mount kit of an rb. NONE, NOT 1, hole was lined up I had to ream them all out. Not to even mention the trans mount isn't in because I would have to cut out a lot of the material to work. If you look close you can see where I had to notch the trans mount so it would just clear from hitting the transmission! I don't think there is a spot anywhere where it prenatrates the metal and the lines aren't even cut straight. Worth 650 for 2 sets?










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dude, are you sure you got those from E&E? the reason i ask is because i work there and those dont even look close to what we install on the cars.

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I swear to god that is what I got. I have 2 sets of them. 1 Is already installed in my car with the stock transmission mount put backwards because it won't even fit and the other one is yet to be installed and they both look the same. You work there? This is what I got and this is why I am so upset.

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yes, i work there and i have never seen a set come out looking like that. thats why i asked if you were positive you got them from us.

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Wow, i thought my STM mounts that i had to drill about an inch off each hole were bad, but the material at least had some gurt to it. Those look like they were JB welded together. Im not saying JB weld isnt holding half my car together right now, but i wouldnt use it for my mounts haha.

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Alex, give me a call at the shop today.

Eric

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dude you need to call mckinney motorsports TODAY. that is horrible. i would never trust my motor on that crap.


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I gotta admit those welds look like crap. I made better welds when I was learning to weld. They arent even remotely consistent. I would be a little irritated also.

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Now you guys all understand why I'm so pissed off. I'm still trying to figure out why I got an oddball set other than what they install in their cars... Calling E&E and see what Eric is gonna do. If he doesn't do anything... well, we'll just leave it at that.

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Yep... I don't know jack about welding, but I'm guessing I could have done that job.

I am sure that Eric will take care of you. He seems like a pretty reasonable guy from his post earlier. No respectable business owner would let product out like that and not try to fix it for you. I wonder if some high school intern in the shipping department was given two boxes. One box (was a training weld from a one armed gimp who got fired) for the trash and one box (some real high quality stuff) to send to Alex. Then he got the two boxes mixed up and send off the wrong one.

Let's give Eric and his company a chance to fix it before anybody passes judgement

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Sounds fair to me, its just been a hassle from day 1. We'll see what happens when I call I am sure I'll get some nice ones since he does sound like a very reasonable man.-Alex

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I am not happy about what i am seeing or hearing on this thread!!!!!! These are not TOP HAT MOUNTS........ I see that has been stated but on this forum but the damage is done. There are already more post saying TOP HAT is ripping people off. Eric, please make sure you let everone on this forum know what happened.Thanks, MIKE SIMS Owner, TOP HAT

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FYI

I just got off the phone with Mike Simms of Top Hat (owner) and a friend of mine. I am more than a bit miffed about people saying "TOP HAT F-Ed me"

No, no..whoever sold you the mounts as Top Hat mounts, that really weren't, they f-ed you. Unless you purchased them, with the top aht logo on it, it's not a top hat mount..and you got ripped off.

Eric, I seriously hope you take care of this in a good business like fashion, IE paying Mike to send these guys the mounts they thought they were getting, and paying for it out of your pocket.

Feel free to PM me if you have some more information on this, I want it cleared up. I don't like a friend of mins work being slammed for no reason. Eric, don't ever expect Mike's help on anything ever again.

-Chet


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Thanks for clearing all this up for us Exar-Kun. It is good to know a mod here knows the situation is bull and can vouge for him.

Now im curious to know when e&e is going to chime in.......


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