RB20/25DET supplies will get better, or worse?

Discuss the RB20, RB25 and RB26 series engines.
dareo
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As the swap gets more popular, what do you guys think? More importers will be shipping RB25s and RB20s over? Or is there such a little supply in Japan as well? SCC says theres lots in Japan, and considering the number of GTS skylines sold, i think there should be a decent supply. I'l be ordering a clip of bob knows what in 1-5 months depending on how fast i can get some money together. In this time frame, what should the supply of RB engines look like? Cause if its just a royal pay up the butt situation for an RB25, screw it i'l go RB20 or CA18. The RB20 is allready like 2 grand cheaper. RB20 rebuilt to forged internals for about the same price as an RB25 would be sweet. Scenario could be the same with a CA18. SR20 is too common/hyped for me i think.

From what i understand, the RB20 will go right into an 89 without doing too much, but the RB25 to be done well, at least a grand of extra stuff. Is 2 grand worth it for a little displacement and a few years newer? I would think the RB20 would make a much more boostable motor. I need to do a lot more learning before i decide on a motor.

RB25DET would rock if all of Japans clips got sent over here and sold to us, for like 2000-2500 bucks. Are the 'companies' trying to get a buttload of these engines over and theres just not any? Or is the RB thing just catching on with importers?


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you gotta think what a small precentage of engines are actually good to be resold.

75% of the GTST's are still on the road.

only a small precentage are gonna be able to be resold, in good condition.

i dont think any person can answer the question 'will there be enough' because nobody knows for sure

there are only a handful of people doing rb swaps but that number is growing rapidly.

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you could buy a blown motor and rebuild it if it came down to it. wrecking yards in japan destroy blown motors, so if you could pick these motors up and rebuild them you got a great head start.

dareo
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Yeah but how many RB25DETs have been sold in all of United states? 20? It cant be very many

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ha, way more than 20. plus we are competing with australia.

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yea WAY more than 20. **** there are 5 rb240's in arizona alone

and i know there are about 3x that in florida. damn no emissions bastards.

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on that florida note, does anyone know of a supplier in florida, I saw that stephenb was saying he was. I'm having trouble getting in contact with him though, his email from his profile seems to be a dead account, and I haven't seen a post from him in quite some time. any info would be great thanks

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Nameless EJ6
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I personally think there's alot more of them out there.. but there's not enough demand for them here yet. We really don't have that many companies here in America trying to get them. Most companies importing engines and clips are too busy worrying about JDM Honda still :/

I'll bet alot of the clips over there are automatics too. And most of our 'demanders' here want 5 speeds.

As far as australia goes, I don't think very many clips/engines will be leaving their shores, considering these cars aren't domestic over there either... thus prices are probably not cheap for their own economy. But what do I know, I never lived there.

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THUS WHY I SAID WE ARE COMPETING WITH AUSSIELAND. THEY BUY ALL THE CARS AND CLIPS FROM JAPAN.

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Nameless EJ6
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I usually don't read your posts.... . .

It's a subconscious_thing..

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LOL THANKS, IS IT CAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING?

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I doubt it and who cares. That is one of the things that most (Ill go out on a limb and speak for us all) chose to take witht e swap. The good with the bad. The Rb20 was cheaper than the SR20, but parts arent as accessible on ebay and stores and what not. So its a trade off. Just paln well and downtime will be slim...

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what does it take to swap to a 5 speed, ECU, trans, flywheel, drive shaft, and maybe a 5 speed wiring harness

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it takes.. a 5 speed transmission, 5 speed ECU, 5 speed flywheel, CUSTOM drive shaft, 5 speed wiring harness... HAHAHA just playin' man I'm not sure..

I've heard that u just need the transmission and the flywheel, the ECU can work as a manual. I can't conifrm this though I just recollect hearing it somewhere I think a guy with an RB20 did it the above mentioned way.

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An RB25 auto would be cool, just build the motor for like 800hp and be a drag master. i dunno if the RB25 auto trans can handle power or not, but a really powerful RB25 auto would be sweet. I'd have to sell my 5 speed and get an auto 240sx, swapping a 5speed to auto would be a sin.

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NightXCZ77 wrote:Well, I can tell you one thing about the problem with these engines: It is worth more for companies to sell the cars whole to malaysia, new zealand, aussie land....so they do so before clipping them. Another thing is that there are a lot of Skylines here....but they don't wreck too often either. Autos are readily available if anyone wants autos.....about 95% of people don't.

There are not A LOT of clips over here in Japan ready to be shipped. Every last RB20, RB25 and the nonexistent RB26 are either being sold in Japan, sold to Australia, or sold to the US...they are not that easy to come by....honda clips are readily available...but not all of them are good motors...tons of D15 and D16's here. I have over 4 suppliers here in Japan searching for these RB25's.....most come back with the same answer "it could take us about 3-4 weeks to find them or even one"....so again, they aren't easy to find....the Americans who wish to swap may suffer a little from this, but there's not too much we can do about it.

Night


Thats strange you say "3-4 weeks" to get RB25det engines, I could purchase 5 right now and have them here in 3-4 weeks, problem is they are still attached to the cars so the prices are alittle more (Cause you get the whole Skyline!) but i dont have 5 people that paid waiting for them! So i dont have the funds to bring them in right now.


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