Rb acting up after Gizzmo install? help

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slowrb20
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sorry to steal your thread but i have a question about the gizzmo launch interface. i read a little on how it works but it was kinda short on what all it does.

is it basicaly launch control?

aka a stutter box?

im trying to shorten my 60ft times and this seems like a good way to start. also i know with many stutter boxes you cant do a burn out because you cant dumb the clutch at a high enough rpm? is this the case with the gizzmo?

thanks for the input and sorry about you getting a deffective one. hope that works out for ya man


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The Gizzmo is like a studder box but it is controlled. With the gizzmo you can set exactly what rpm you want it to start misfiring. It works off a clutch switch you install.

But with the gizzmo it will allow you to build boost out of the whole. Vs without it you don't build boost till im guessing near the 60" mark.

It also allows you to build boost between shifts. So you never have to let off the WOT during the race. Im guessing I should pick up half a second total with it installed.

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so can you do a burnout?

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yes you can do a burnout. The launch control is not activated until you activate it with the shift light.

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rb25drag wrote:yes you can do a burnout. The launch control is not activated until you activate it with the shift light.
I was reading and came across this...I am planning on putting in a launch controller, the gizzmo unit seems to be a legit way to go. Personally I dont like the idea of having a shift light in the car...is there a way to run the gizzmo w/o it? I would only use it at the track, and would want to dissengage it on the street, which sounds to me like all that is done thru the shift light?

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Yep you have to have the shift light since that is what controls it. Gay I know. I just wanted some hidden control module that I could hit a switch to activate at the strip or street light

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i know! I am looking at a diff one herehttp://www.importintelligence....-Edit

its seems like its ok, and a member on here is running it...

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That system looks more along the lines of what I'm looking for but I don't understand this part, "This system will cut both fuel and spark to the engine."

How does this work to spool the turbo if unburnt fuel is not present to ignite in the exhaust manifold? I understand cutting spark, but not cutting fuel. How exactly is it controlled? I need more details.

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Darius wrote:That system looks more along the lines of what I'm looking for but I don't understand this part, "This system will cut both fuel and spark to the engine."

How does this work to spool the turbo if unburnt fuel is not present to ignite in the exhaust manifold? I understand cutting spark, but not cutting fuel. How exactly is it controlled? I need more details.
it seems to me like its a dual purpose setup...to use it as a rev limiter, you have the clutch dissengaged, and upon rev limit, it cuts fuel and spark. for the 2-step function, it acts like a normal 2 step, letting you build boost by burning fuel etx.

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That ImportIntelligence unit has the same functions as the Gizzmo, It also looks to be cheaper!!

I personally like the shift light on the gizzmo, It really helps me to keep my shifts even at the track, ESP when Im bracket racing and it counts. BTW im the only Import 5 speed Know to bracket race around here LOL!!

But that was the whole point of the gizzmo for me, To be more consistent and make better times more evenly.

Now I haven't been able to cut any better 60ft's at the track using the launch control, Mainly b/c I keep spinning, So From experience, If you are not planning on running a slick then the launch control is going to be pointless!!

I have drag radials, BFG 275-50-15's I have run them at every PSI known, From 8-21 and I still Spun past the 60ft using the launch control. Bets so far was 1.78 60ft,

I have been 1.6 60ft without it.

It Really isn't a unit you can use on the street, I mean you can if you wanna do a Funny car burnout!! Which is cool in my book. But its really for the track use.

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Largekid wrote:it seems to me like its a dual purpose setup...to use it as a rev limiter, you have the clutch dissengaged, and upon rev limit, it cuts fuel and spark. for the 2-step function, it acts like a normal 2 step, letting you build boost by burning fuel etx.
no it only cuts spark not fuel.

this is how my gizzmo is installed on my s14

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rb25drag wrote:That ImportIntelligence unit has the same functions as the Gizzmo, It also looks to be cheaper!!

I personally like the shift light on the gizzmo, It really helps me to keep my shifts even at the track, ESP when Im bracket racing and it counts. BTW im the only Import 5 speed Know to bracket race around here LOL!!

But that was the whole point of the gizzmo for me, To be more consistent and make better times more evenly.

Now I haven't been able to cut any better 60ft's at the track using the launch control, Mainly b/c I keep spinning, So From experience, If you are not planning on running a slick then the launch control is going to be pointless!!

I have drag radials, BFG 275-50-15's I have run them at every PSI known, From 8-21 and I still Spun past the 60ft using the launch control. Bets so far was 1.78 60ft,

I have been 1.6 60ft without it.

It Really isn't a unit you can use on the street, I mean you can if you wanna do a Funny car burnout!! Which is cool in my book. But its really for the track use.
i would only be using it at the track...it will help me launch better for sure. I am currently running a 275/40/17 MT radial full time

HxC, I was reffering the the import launch interface, not the gizzmo. But I guess both would cut spark and let the fuel burn to spool the turblow.

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Here is a Video of me activating the Gizzmo with the shift light:

Here it is set at 3600RPM, Only builds about 5 PSI.



And here is a short clip of a 4500RPM Set: I didn't hold it long. Boost gauge is on the left. 10 PSI Quik:



Also, You Don't wanna Cut fuel, Leaning out the Cylinders is Not what you wanna do, You will end up blowing Holes in the Pistons.

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Hans, what do you use to keep your hand controller stuck to the dash like that? I've been looking for something that makes it more visible but doesn't involve drilling holes. I also have the same gauge pod on the steering column. Love it!

It makes me a little leary that importintelligence.com says the unit cuts fuel and spark because that makes no sense to me and doesn't build credibility. Cutting fuel and spark simultaneously equals stall.

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haha believe it or not a small strip of velcro is what i used so i can always remove it in the future if i relocate it and no damage is done just a little glue residue wich comes off with goo gone anyways.

also the gizzmo is only wired to the igniter and only cuts spark kind of like a rev limiter cause its dangerous to cut fuel wich can cause detonation.

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Does anybody have the installation instructions for the Import Intelligence launch controller? I am guessing that it is exactly like the Gizzmo but the product description was written by a crack head.

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The giz is fun to play with, alittle violent though with 315 nittos.


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