ran 1/4 mile for my first time :D

[240sxin]

sup guys, i just ran my 240 friday night at thunder vally here in oklahoma, and hot damn it was fun. now i didnt post mind blowing times seeing my 240 is stock, but i had a blast. my first run was a 18.03, i waqs asleep at the light and nervus as hell so i was a little easy on the throtle. my sencond through fourth run was inbetween 17.95 and 17.77, i did better but i kept missing gears seeing my 240 is a automatic (o well). my last run was my best and i almost broke into the 16 range but came up with a 17.45, i hit every gear right and had a great reaction time. it was a blast and if you havent gona dow the 1/4 mile yet i would recomend it. it only cost me 15 buccks and i go to run as many times i wanted. anyway i was bored and wanted to just tell everyone about it . anyway take it easy guys.

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How do you miss gears in an auto?

Did you like...pull your foot off the gas?

[240sxin]

acculy when going from 1st two 2nd i accidently wen straight to drive. if you didnt know autos have park, revers, nutral, drive, 2nd and 1st. while going down the strip i shifted from 1st to 2nd then to drive, with the over drive off.

[RedHatchback]

Quote »i kept missing gears seeing my 240 is a automatic [/quote] ummm. uh... Yeah...I heard that once before from a ricer in a Honda Civic.You can't miss gears in an auto thur buddy.Sorry.Quote »Did you like...pull your foot off the gas?[/quote] LMAO^^^

[MainEvent212]

that's a waste..your transmission will actually perform better if you leave it in drive...and do the following

at the start line...1. push brake as hard as opssible w/ left foot2. floor gas3. let off brake as the light turns green 4. keep gas against floor till after you finish5. bask in your better time

[KDashy]

Yeah, thats the best way to launch on an automatic, cant be great for the brakes though. The 1-2-D shifting thing on the 240 is worthless, flooring it will automatically shift you right before redline. Just leave it in D.

[Shift_Oversteer]

Wow you learn something new every day!

[drifter_for_life06]

pull your foto of the gass

[Maverick7687]

that's a waste..your transmission will actually perform better if you leave it in drive...and do the following

at the start line...1. push brake as hard as opssible w/ left foot2. floor gas3. let off brake as the light turns green 4. keep gas against floor till after you finish5. bask in your better time

Ok, I can see how that would work in a honda (or other FWD car) I personally have never driven an auto 240, but it would seem to me like while holding the brake pedal=Front brakes...and Flooring the gas (RWD car) wouldnt the rear tires break loose?? Not tryin to be a smart ***....just cant see how you could keep the back tires still while holding the brake and gas to the floor on a FWD car....Mav

[Onizuka]

well the thing is you have brake calipers on the rear disks too

Hes talking about loading the torque converter (you can break the crap out of it if you do it wrong) which is a good stratagy for drag racing auto cars.

[Maverick7687]

I know...my car has 4 wheel disk too..but they dont grab that hard with the brake pedal...I can hold my foot on the brake and push the gas...with the brake on hard..and when I get off the clutch the rear tires still brake loose..no prob....that IS a great way to launch an Auto, thats how I used to launch my Accord...but i am just sayin on a rwd car..you cant hold the brake and stomp the gas all the way...you can put a load on the t/c..just not full power...Mav

EDIT: Unless the brakes on the Auto 240 work more on the rear than on the 5spd..or there is just some other trick to holding the back brakes that I dont know about.

[PhaneSoul]

easy, back breaks break loose at about 3500 rpm, well just hold em around 3000 and that is a pretty good launching rpm seeing as how it shouldnt squeel too much, but i dunno never drivin an auto or checked to see when the back actually breaks loose

[MainEvent212]

you WANT some wheelspin launching your car...when u have crappy tires (most street tires under 150 a piece) youh ave to sacrifice a small amount of wheel spin so you dont bog at the line...it's the facts of life

[Maverick7687]

I realize all of this..I am just thinking about the "power brake" effect used on the road to get the rear tires to brake loose...does noone else see this?? I know thats a good way to launch a car...but you just cant use too much throttle...Mav

[nab911]

if you have the breaks floored... like hard it shouldnt spin. To power break you only half hold the breaks so you dont smoke your back breaks.

[Asleep Altima]

you guys act like our ka has enough power to do a decent brakestand... you guys all left out one important thing though, DO NOT hold the brake and gas pedal for more than several seconds at a time. its a great way to ruin clutch packs and heat the hell up out of the torque converter. hot transmission = slower times. good to hear that you had a good time. heres the general rule for going to the track - PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICEgood luck next time.

[Maverick7687]

I dont know about yours...but the stock KA in my 93 240sx has enough power...and it hesitates alittle..It is a 5spd though...Mav

[Asleep Altima]

umm, yeah, world of difference between a 5spd and auto when it comes to breaking the rear tires loose. at 150-155 bhp, the ka isnt exactly a powerhouse. torquey but far from powerful. now add a little nitrous or boost....

[Maverick7687]

Thats what I wasnt gettin then...I thought the auto would be about the same as the 5spd..i guess the TC and other auto components rob some power so it wont break loose...I now understand ....Mav

[Altiman94]

you can do a brake stand burnout in any rwd car. My buddy used to in his 89 auto s13.

[tonynalli]

when my car was auto if i tried holding the break and giving it gas it always broke loose. then again i did have a few mods done to it. what i did (only knowing that i was about to throw the transmission out and do the swap) was do a neutral drop at about 3000 rpms, i didnt have a lot of wheel spin, the trick was timing when you needed to floor it. and the best i ran in my **** *** auto was around16.6, or a little more, but that was a long time ago.

[PantherRacer]

can you say "back brakes break loose" 10 times fast??? LOL

[Chingon]

i hit every gear right and had a great reaction time.

hehe...

No matter if you have a 5 speed, you won't break traction at around 3k rpm. Unless you have crappy *** tires...

[Chingon]

btw this thread reminds me of a dumb *** friend who tried to do a burnout on a minivan (auto) by revving the hell out of it in neutral and dumping it to drive... haha

It was in front of a kid's party...and get this, the clown at the party told the kids to help him push it.....

[Chingon]

I ..with the brake on hard..and when I get off the clutch the rear tires still brake loose..no prob....that IS a great way to launch an Auto, thats how I used to launch my Accord

auto's don't have a clutch pedal dude...

[Maverick7687]

no ****..i have a 5spd....read the whole thread and you would know that....Mav

EDIT: No sarcasm intended...just making a point

[Chingon]

i was just being an *** about how you said you can launch a 5 speed releasing the clutch and then saying you can do that in an auto..

i know what you meant...

[Maverick7687]

In that post I was tryin to figure out if the clutch was the only reason I could get mine to "brake torque"...thought that extra push might make the 5spd break and the auto not...Mav

[Altiman94]

why must we always argue. fact is ANY 240 can do a brake stand burn out

[MainEvent212]

not true...the only reason any of you are getting your low power commuter cars to do "brake stands" if that's what you awnan call them, is because you have some ****ty tires. if you werent such cheap asses you wouldnt break loose like that and we wouldnt be having this conversation...

*moral of the story*240sxin- buy some decent tires stock size or maybe even plus width, falken azenis, kumho MX are both nice low buck tires to look into

do what i told you and you will run better times...soon as you stage, full brakes full throttle...soon as the light goes green, let off the brakes and cruise to the finish

EDIT:

here's an example...my car makes 210whp at 8psi, i'm runing 14 psi, so if we do some desktop dyno-ing it comes to about 230whp...i used to have 225/45/17 kumho ecsta supra 712 tires (crappy and worn) in the rear, on a flat clean surface, i could spin 1st gear till 25 mph...2nd gear and then shift till 3rd and actually spin half of 3rd gear...

i recently swapped new tires 245/45/17 kumho ecsta MX (dry tires and grip 10x better then the 712's) i now can launch hard, get moderate wheelspin, i hardly spin 2nd, 3rd is barely even a chirp on most clean surfaces...

what's the difference? i race my friend in his RSX-S to gauge anything i drive, just for fun. Why? he's very consistant..here's my 240 resultsOLD TIRES: less then 1 car length after traction

NEW TIRES: 3-4 cars by 90mph