Radar Detectors & Ticket Evasion

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I know all of you more than likely LOVE to drive fast! :rockon

I also know more than likely everyone hates tickets! (DUH)

I am considering investing a cool 200-300$ on a worthy radar detector. I know it wont save me from all tickets however, I dont always (just sometimes) drive insanely fast like some of us do.

so I ask those of you that know.

What is/are the top brand/s of radar detectors?What makes them the top detector?How much do they cost?Where can I get one?

TDY :D


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Well, in that range all my friends have the Escort 8500, which is considered hands down the best radar detector in it's class. I have a decent cobra, but these one's seem to just pick up more than mine. It costs 299.99, sold at Best Buy And many other commercial places. Definately the best money they invested according to them. For me, my cobra hasen't let me down. Search ebay, you'll get a good idea of whats good, as well as bestbuy.com and circuitcity.com, they have reviews as well.

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Do you get a fine if a cop sees that you have one?

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hands down, valentine one (V1) i belieive they are about 4oo or so,but i know a guy with an IS3OO and he cruises the interstate (on buisness and such) at 14o or so, and he'll get the early warning signal about 2miles ahead of time, and just pass the cop at the speed limit, and climb back up to speed after, ive never heard anyhting but good about the v1, you get what you pay for, and in this case its true, thast why it carries a hefty price tag

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I have heard good things about Rockey Mountains C430. Radar/Laser dector/jammer. I havent had the need for one yet, but thats where i am leaning.

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Guys, check out some of the Infiniti general threads, they've covered this subject a few times now. To summarize, most of our Infiniti owning brothers swear by V1.

Best V1 thread

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i agree with nlzmo400r, the V1 is the radar of choice. Read their advertisments, i beleive they will pay for your first ticket if its reasonable. i know of another fuzzbuster that is new and suppose to be the ****, but i forgot the name, i will ask my friend mike next time i see him.

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The best radar detector is a CB Radio .... Truckers keep an eye out and know what mile marker (yard stick) that every smokie and county mounty are at ... I just use my CB ..

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Bel 985, I worked at Circuit City for 2 years and everyone agrees.

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I have this one that is built into the car I forgot the name of it. But you put one sensor in the front of the car and one in the back. wire it through the car and you have your display on the dash it's pretty cool I took it out of my friends caddilac after his engine blewup. I think it goes for about 600. and it only beeps when cops are around.

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one of the coolest things about the V1 is that you can always upgrade your V1 to a more current one. There's really no need for it since its already the best out there. I have one that about 4 years and they say its about as up to date as the current radar detectors today. Prolly the newest things with the new V1, is that it can detect bands that euro-cops use so i guess you can take it to europe or whatever and you'll be dandy.

you would feel more ripped off if you spent 100$ on a cobra then if you spent 400$ on the V1

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The Bel 985 is electronically upgradeable as well, and the best thing about it is that its all free as long as you bought it legitly. What does this mean in english?? IF THE POPO COME OUT WITH A NEW FORM OF RADAR, YOU'RE COVERED, FOR FREE!

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Passport 8500 has beat the V1 in multiple test, and i know multiple ppl with both, two of the guys took their V1s back, got the 8500 and pocketed the $70-100 difference....

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nlzmo400r wrote:hands down, valentine one (V1) i belieive they are about 4oo or so,but i know a guy with an IS3OO and he cruises the interstate (on buisness and such) at 14o or so, and he'll get the early warning signal about 2miles ahead of time, and just pass the cop at the speed limit, and climb back up to speed after, ive never heard anyhting but good about the v1, you get what you pay for, and in this case its true, thast why it carries a hefty price tag


I hope he slams into a telephone pole doing 140; one less idiot on this planet. If you want to avoid tickets, don't drive over the speed limit; period. Drive fast at the track. Laws are made to protect you and others. If you want to risk injury by driving fast, that's fine. Just think about other people.

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If you want to keep from getting tickets... you guessed it, don't speed like an idiot. There are other people on the road, most of them idiots for doing the same thing, and the best thing YOU CAN DO is to not be one of them. Realize that speeding just isn't worth it. Let some punkass tailgate you, let them honk and flip you off... you get the satistfaction of knowing they are the f**king loser.

I'll NEVER waste money on a super duper radar detector when all you really have to do is go the damn speed limit. Sorry.. it's a touchy subject for me. I'm currently paying my *** off going to court for doing 120 in a 60.. and my radar didn't do **** because.. the cop was in an unmarked car. There are getting to be too many unmarked cars these days and alot of people I know are getting busted by them. I've also had 3 tickets over the past 3-4 years for just the occasional speeding. (10-20 over) I just don't see the point in going 6-10+ mph over the speed limit.. what would my point be? That I could make it to my destination 3 minutes earlier? Or that I can beat the guy in front of me to the next stoplight? It's pointless.. thus I gave up.

I don't go more than 5 mph over no matter who is on my ***. If the person tailgating me wants to honk and flip me off that's cool. If someone cuts me off.. that's ok. Even late at night when no one is around.. I go the speed limit. For me, it's a big self discipline game. And it happens every damn day in washington traffic.

What else can I say? Not much. I'm sure it's not going to affect anything..

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I stand by my first post and agree with the majority of the Infiniti owners who posted high praise for V1 in the link I presented.

Good points about maintaining discipline and not speeding excessively. I know I'm not the oldest or most experienced driver here, but in 10 years of wheel time, I've never gotten a ticket. For anything. (knock on wood). It's all about self-discipline. Just last night two kids in a body kitted, dumped, steel wheeled '02 style civic raced me up to the speed limit(when I backed off) from a stop light. I was driving my toyota tacoma. Being the kids they are, they continued to speed up as they passed me(after I 60-footed the hell out of that crappy driver, and I'm in a 4x4...he was tryin, tire chirp, CAI, fart can, very audible), and guess who was lurking at the next stoplight? Good ol boys in blue. They took the civic down, I'll figure he was doing about 70-80 in a 45. The kid must not have seen the cop up ahead, but he was owned twice that night! As the kid was being pulled over, I passed at the posted speed.

Later in the night on the Interstate, I passed a WA state patrol, he was just coming off a traffic stop, flipped his strobes off, entered traffic, and gained speed to about 65, at that point I passed him on the left, gingerly. Trust me when I say, cops can see hotshot, tough guy, moron drivers a mile away. It's what they do. Be responsible, don't act like a reckless kid, and the cops are now your friend. Use common sense.Look ahead. Pay attention to the movements/actions of the vehicles well ahead of you.

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I agree with most everyone's points.

Hotshot driving is best left to a WIDE open parking lot, or a Wide open track with controlled conditions . Indeed the best way to avoid a ticket is NOT to speed anyone that takes 2 seconds to think about it could figure that out. (though it took me 2 years in a retirement community LOL) :P

I do NOT want to purchace a radar detector to "evade" tickets so I can endager other people at 140 mph. Especially when I can do that on a track. With the curvy roads n rednecks in beat up chevys here in this part of the south, thats absolutly Insane for anyone no matter the road conditions.

This backwater part of mississippi that I call home is perfect driving country for the handling capabilities of my 240. Here, one gets used to doing about 10-15 over in the country and you wont *see* a cop for 6 months! Then one day BAM Here's a 150$ ticket.

I do ALOT of commuting through the country and it gets hard to do 45-55 on a very nice road. AFTERALL I do drive a 240 :rockon I know Y'ALL Feel me! The routes I take are simply too fun to be that conservative!

I simply want to avoid that once in 6 month occurance of 150$

Thanks for the Info about Detectors peeps! :)

ok i'll quit ranting now :D :D :D

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SmithSR wrote: Just last night two kids in a body kitted, dumped, steel wheeled '02 style civic raced me up to the speed limit(when I backed off) from a stop light. I was driving my toyota tacoma. Being the kids they are, they continued to speed up as they passed me(after I 60-footed the hell out of that crappy driver, and I'm in a 4x4...he was tryin, tire chirp, CAI, fart can, very audible), and guess who was lurking at the next stoplight? Good ol boys in blue. They took the civic down, I'll figure he was doing about 70-80 in a 45. The kid must not have seen the cop up ahead, but he was owned twice that night! As the kid was being pulled over, I passed at the posted speed.

Later in the night on the Interstate, I passed a WA state patrol, he was just coming off a traffic stop, flipped his strobes off, entered traffic, and gained speed to about 65, at that point I passed him on the left, gingerly. Trust me when I say, cops can see hotshot, tough guy, moron drivers a mile away. It's what they do. Be responsible, don't act like a reckless kid, and the cops are now your friend. Use common sense.Look ahead. Pay attention to the movements/actions of the vehicles well ahead of you.


:rotflmao :rotflmao

I love to see some punk kids get spanked!but it's even better when they get a ticket after they get a good 40 lashes! :spank

THANK YOU SIR! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!?

:rotflmao :rotflmao

Excellent Advice too!

TDY

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Zebrahead wrote:I hope he slams into a telephone pole doing 140; one less idiot on this planet. If you want to avoid tickets, don't drive over the speed limit; period. Drive fast at the track. Laws are made to protect you and others. If you want to risk injury by driving fast, that's fine. Just think about other people.

Nick.
i think that was a little bit uncalled for, im not saying he gets on the interstate and automatically speeds at 14omph, but when you're on the interstate, and you're the only person on the damn road, and you have a 5hr trip ahead of you, you can save a lot of time by going 14omph as opposed to 75mph, you make a 5hour trip almost 2 1/2, and i never said speeding was right, sure the best way to aviod tickets is to not speed, but face it, not everyone has that logic, thats how radar detector companies make money, becaues they know you wont just do the speed limit. im sure u know some countries dont have speed limits, they have guys flying at 16omph in huge S class mercedes's on highways such as the autobahn, i dont see you wishing for them to crash into poles and kill themselves, and they have less wrecks than we do (as far as u.s vs germany), now yes i am aware they have less people, but still, they're traveling twice as fast and effeciently, so i dont see the huge fault of going fast, as long as you do it safely, rapidly changing lanes and such to fly through traffice at over 1ooMPH when everyone else is doing 65 is just stupid, but once you're out in front, and there's no one in your way, bringing it up to 13o-14o and cruising in one lane is fine by me, as long as the driver is comfortable doing these speeds and is in a car capable of safely doing these speeds, well ive rambeled on enough, thats all i have to say, i just think what u said was way out of line

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I agree with you nlzmo...I have seen many a highway that was dead straight and you could see for miles, I would not hesitate to cruise at high speed on one of these highways late at night when there was very little traffic as long as I was alert and keeping an eye on my surroundings.

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Ive talked to cops an Radar detectors arent even worth the money the only time they work is if they leave the gun on, most of the time they have it on hold an when they want the speed of a car they just release it for a second which gives you no warning. Also cops are trained where they can tell your speed within 3mphs by just lookin at you, and yes that will hold up in court. So my point is there is no safe way to speed, your better off just goin the speed limit.

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Thats what they want you to think...the thing is that they dont work well when the road are EMPTY and they are using instant on, but they are very effective when there is a bit of traffic...you pick up whenever they instant on car's in front of you. Dont believe everything law enforcement tells you...they ARE out to make money off of you, ever notice how much they suddenly patrol and set up speed traps at the end of the month? They have a quota to fill (no matter what they tell you...they do). That quota is there for a reason: to make money for the city.

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Nathan wrote:I agree with you nlzmo...I have seen many a highway that was dead straight and you could see for miles, I would not hesitate to cruise at high speed on one of these highways late at night when there was very little traffic as long as I was alert and keeping an eye on my surroundings.


Well, unless you seriously upgrade your headlights, you could easily be driving well beyond the limits of your lights if you go flying at night. Better pray an animal doesn't walk in front of you because at night you won't likely see it in time.

You really don't need a radar detector if you drive smartly. That is,don't be the fastest one out there. Watch on-coming traffic for signals. I know if flash my lights for opposing traffic if I see a trap for them. And if you're on a deserted road, don't push too much over the limit. Even if you have a good radar detector, it's hard to react to an instant-on radar gun.

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So Pretty much, This is what I believe and I think the conclusion of this post is. Radar detectors aren't immunity from cops and tickets, even the V1 can't stop a cop who flips on his gear as you drive by. People all too often believe a radar detector makes them invincable, this is simply just not true. I believe a radar detector does help, but you have to be smart. Common sense (which isn't really that common) will come through for you just as much as a radar detector. Knowing the popular cop speed traps, slowing down by on ramps always help. Even though I have a radar detector I try and always follow a car like 5-8 seconds behind (bunny rabbit as I refer to it) to follow, that way they will get pulled over before you 90% of the time. Tricks like these along with your radar detector will keep your driving record clean like mine (knock on wood!)

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Bubba1...I dont make it out in the country too much and the parts of the highway I routinely drive that I was referring too: I've never seen an animal. I dont mean to say that it couldnt happen, just that I havent seen one...but it'd have to be an immense emergency for me to be cruising around 120. I'm usually quite happy pushing 90ish on those roads and dont feel that it is too fast for them. You are very right about oncoming signals, that's what I watch for ;) if you see tail lights all coming on ahead then maybe you should slow down too.

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well let me add my two cents in this. first off i have a bel 916 and it costs 90 bux from amazon. this was about three years ago and it gets the job done. as all other radar detectors, it will go off sumtimes due to random things but its pretty accurate. second, being responsible is the next way to not get a ticket. just know when to drive fast and when not to. follow dr nova scotia's advice and speed only after you see a bunny rabbit. in my opinion i think the green light is definitely given when you see five cars cruising at high speed. count to five and then go their speed. works for me at least. next issue is the high speed thing. i personally think that the best speed would be the max for the cruise control, which is like 93. any faster than that and you better hope that you dont see any puddles, or anything for that matter on the road. lol. i think that 240s just induce speeding. driving at sixty feels like 40. seventy feels like 50. you get the drift. just b responsible. and think, the 400 on a v1 could be your next upgrade for that engine. food for thought

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SCC did a test on a brand new wireless radar/laser detector, its called the escort Solo2, its a dericative of the highly rated 85oo model, so it covers all the bands, it costs 329.95, and after reading this review, if i get any, itll be the v1 or the solo2, its a good article, read up, also, headlights, like mentioned before, is a big thing when speeding, my friend has a 99 eclipse and put these pepboys 'halogen' thingies in there, and not only are they not properly aimed, they dont light up crap, ive taken his car to about 1oomph and felt unsafe simply because i couldnt see anything, by the time i saw it, i wouldve hit it, also, my car has very bright highbeams, and i can see well into the night, my car is also very smooth at high speeds, which can make it tempting to cruise at 1o5 or so

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My best freind ran with a V1, for the whole 2 days he had his 4gen prelude. He got busted for drag racing the 2nd day with his license (G class, only 6 points). The V1 didn't go off. Know why? Because 2 cops happend to be pulling out of a diner that was on the street, and they just happend to see him. No radar detector is going to save you from a cop just seeing you. Cops CAN and WILL write you a ticket for speeding without zapping you, and they will hold up in court. Cops that have been on the job for 20 years CAN tell as little as a 5mph difference in a speed of a car.

Radar is worthless for anything but the highway. End of story.

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the highway is where i need one

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gibbo80 wrote:the highway is where i need one
exactly, if i never drove on the hwy, i wouldnt wory about getting one, although they can be helpful when cops hide behind bushes and stuf (which is illegal here) with they're readr on, but i woldnt g oas far as spending 4oo bucks on one


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