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Jester:

From what I've observed, cops in the south usually don't cruise around with thier radar on like they do up here. A******s. I work in north and south Carolina half the year so I make a few trips up and down the coast. South of Verginia, they hardly use radar at all while driving.


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Yeah the radar schools here teach them to keep it on stand by and flip it on after they approximate a speed visually. It keeps the boys with detectors on there toes. Thats why it does no good. but as you pointed out, they teach different styles in different area.

My officer friends would kick my butt if I had a detector. But, they are as interested about the jammers as I am. I may buy one just to play with it.

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I hate instant on Radar, but thats why you fall behind the punk in the Honda, he thinks he is winning a race when he's really clearing the way.

I have heard a lot here about V1 and Escort but what about K40? Thats what I have and while it is no longer the King of the Hill, its a damn good detector. Its paid for its self about 30 times in the last 4 years. But its time to get a new one soon.

Has anyone ever heard of Rocky Mountain Radar? They have one of the first truely legit detectors/jammers on the market. A true jammer is illegal in all 50 states because with radar falling under the juristiction of the military, it is illegal to NOT show up on radar. However lazers are still controlled by the FDA and it is ok to jam and evade them. Where Rocky Mountain is special (from what I have read) is that they do not truely JAM the radar but instead the unit detects (it is a detector) the radar and sends an FM chirp with the reading back to the cop to confuse the radar. The chirp gives the Radar unit 2 readings, one that you are doing 15mph and another that you are doing 300mph. Since radar takes a number of readings and averages them, the 2 conflicting readings keeps it from registering at all.

Anyone heard of this thing?Another item I have heard of is a true COP detector and is one of the only good things to ever come out of the pages of Superstreet. Every cop car has an onboard repeater to boost their communication signals and this product scans the frequencies police use and gives a warning when the signal strength gets strong enough to indicate a cop car near by. It also acts as a police scanner so you can listen in on them chasing you down;) This item would be ineffective in or near large towns, but out on the open road it could work wonders.

Its a lot of $$ but these 2 items teamed up would be a great asset.

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I was thinking about the Escort SOLO (or is it passport?) I got a ticket a few weeks ago, it was on a backroad through the woods that connect two major roads, i just got on and i was shifting through the gears , just when i was about to shift into 5th i see a cop as i come around the bend, i slam on the brakes but he already jumped out and pointed me over to the side. It sucked getting caught, because the only place i ever do speed anymore is on the backroads (not at night mind you, deer are scary). I got clocked for 54 in a 30mph zone. But he was nice and ticketed me for 40 in a 30mph.

So the reason i am interested in the Escort SOLO is, as the name suggests, that it is cordless. I don't know about you guys but plugging anything into the cig lighter on a s13 is absolutely pointless if you have a 5spd, because your elbow will knock the adapter right out. Anyhow there's a new model SOLO-2 already out, from the looks of it it seems to perform as well as the 8500.

I don't think i speed enough to justify a radar detector though. But i'm still looking for one...

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Radar detector is definately one of the better investments i have seen people make.. I reguarly am on long hauls and speed.. I hate driveing for no reason except just to get from point A to point B, and thus wish to make boreing experience shorter, and liven it up.

No tickets in my 3 and a half years of driveing, partly sue to the fact the only time I have ever seen a police car while speeding, was on a narrow back road that he lived on, but couldn't turn around in.. I swear, I didn't see any lights. :)

But doing 140 (custom 96 saab aero) on the highway def. requires a radar detector.. Neighbor has a V1 and praises it.. Father has some cheepo-brand that dosent do a third what the V can.

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lucas_420 wrote:Has anyone ever heard of Rocky Mountain Radar? They have one of the first truely legit detectors/jammers on the market. A true jammer is illegal in all 50 states because with radar falling under the juristiction of the military, it is illegal to NOT show up on radar. However lazers are still controlled by the FDA and it is ok to jam and evade them. Where Rocky Mountain is special (from what I have read) is that they do not truely JAM the radar but instead the unit detects (it is a detector) the radar and sends an FM chirp with the reading back to the cop to confuse the radar. The chirp gives the Radar unit 2 readings, one that you are doing 15mph and another that you are doing 300mph. Since radar takes a number of readings and averages them, the 2 conflicting readings keeps it from registering at all.


RMR's products are crap. They have been tested over and over to be completely ineffective. Check out some sites that have tested them, all of them same the same thing, it's sh*t. Don't be fooled.

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ya....RMR just gives u a box that lights up....passive radar jamming is a myth and anyone who claims they have a passive unit is full of ****. There have been mad lawsuits against RMR

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skydragoness5 wrote:ISo the reason i am interested in the Escort SOLO is, as the name suggests, that it is cordless.


Dont get it just because its cordless. If your cramped for space hard wire the detector in. The V1 power hub is a nice and neat package to hard wire in. Since it uses phone cord for the power you can custom make any length cord to route underneath the dash. Nice thing, the jack locks itself in and stays put.

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Yeah, cordless ones are, without any exceptions I'm aware of, nowhere near as effective as corded ones. I run a wire from under the dash, up along the A-pillar, and over to the rear-view mirror. The V1 mounts on the windshield right next to the mirror. Both are black and about the same cross-section, so the V1's very easily overlooked from the outside. There's not more than 6" of wire exposed. Very stealthy.For those that don't know, the creator of Valentine One used to be part of Cincinatti Microwave, which was the original company to make the Passport product line. I think he was the chief engineer, but I can't remember for sure. There were some "creative differences" between him and the upper powers, so he quit to make his own product. Somewhat useless trivia here, but it's cool that he's been outperforming his former company ever since. We'd all like to do that, I'm sure.

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lucas_420:

That cop detctor you are talking about is the "Bearcat" series of scanners. I have a Bearcat 10 and it has a warning light and audible warning when it detcts a booster signal. It will detect one up to tree miles away, so you're right, it's pretty useless near towns. I haven't used it on long interstate hauls, I might next time. BUT, this too is passive detection. The cop has to use his radio for this thing to work, so unless he talks on his radio within about 3 minutes of you getting to him, this warning too is useless. I'm consitering bugging cruisers in my area. :)

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The best radar scanner/'cop detector' for long highway trips is a cb radio...as long as you stick to big roads, truckers are always clueing each other in to speed traps and cops along the way. A friend of mine used this method recently (in addition to an escort radar detector) and he said the cb radio was a lot more useful than the radar detector. Also, most cops are pretty good at estimating your speed...you would be too if it was your job to sit on a highway all day and watch cars go by, not to mention they have some kind of training in that area. A lot of times, they will just give you a 'failure to obey traffic control device' ticket, which does not require them to your exact speed...just that you were speeding.

As far as police scanners in your car go, all the police departments I know of use a trunk line for their radios and jump frequencies every few seconds, making listening in to a 'police frequency' near useless. You can buy a 'trunk tracker' which pays attention to the line used to determine the next frequency (either that, or it guesses/scans for the next frequency, whichever method it uses it works pretty well), however these are illegal to have in a car unless you have a ham radio license.

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what about pacing ? anyone know if this type of ticket can be gotten out of i just got a 65 in a 35 and the cop said he used his speedo while following me to calculate my speed, but he only traveld a block maybe block an half to get up on my *** so i think he was still accelerating when he says i was goin that fast. i wasnt going that fasst, speeding yes but no over 50

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neurovish wrote:As far as police scanners in your car go, ... however these are illegal to have in a car unless you have a ham radio license.


Um, pretty sure you don't need a ham radio license to listen to things, just to transmit. That "cop detector" scanner just listens for the booster signal, not the actual frequency the cop is talking on.

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i think he was talking about the trunk tracker that is illegal !

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sanners are not illegal. though I cannot speak for every state.

It is not illegal to listen into the police bands but you cannot broadcast on them. THAT is illegal

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lucas_420 wrote:I hate instant on Radar, but thats why you fall behind the punk in the Honda, he thinks he is winning a race when he's really clearing the way.


Viva mine sweepers! Some of the best 'avoid the police' advice that I've ever received is, 'Don't be the fastest car on the road'. When you are the fastest car, it's good to have a radar detector so you know what you're coming up on.

It seems like the V1 is the best radar detector out there.

Does anyone know what radar bands the CHP uses? I've seen a couple of those new, CHP Camero's on both the 5 north of Downtown and the 710 (damn truckers).

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I was in the car with a guy I knew when a cop paced him. He was doing 95 in a 55 on I-90 out here by Chicago. That Acura Integra was shaking and looking like it would fall apart. Big suprise.....


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