R34 SKYLINE DIESEL

[BUCKY01]

has anyone ever seen or driven a diesel skyline? would they be worth purchasing or would it be better off to swap the diesel motor out?

[themadscientist]

Never seen an R34 or for that matter a 33, 32 or 31 with a diesel. There was an R30 with one.

[BUCKY01]

ok cause there is the website drifttuners.com that shows a 2 door and a 4 door R34 skyline that are diesel

[themadscientist]

A "diesel" RB20DE Neo eh?http://stock.drifttuners.com/s...earch

There a couple of things wrong with this "company".

1. they are so dumb they don't know what engine the car has in it but expect you to buy it.

2. The reason they don't know is twofold, first the are stupid but more importantly they don't have the car. This company actually has the car.http://www.goo-net.com/used/sp....html

Look familiar?

This is not the first time I have seen this scam. Here is how it works.

You set up a website and give the impression you are an established legitamate importer.

You get a freind, usually an active duty or former military member in Japan to do the legwork.

You watch the Japanese auto trader sites like this one.http://www.goo-net.com/used/su....html

You pick cars from there, copy the photos, assign a bull**** "stock number" to them to give the impression that you have it on hand.

If some poor soul gives you money you tell your runner to go buy it and stick it in a container. That's if you actually intend to try to get the car, I suspect many of these fly by night "companies" are just out to steal as much money as they can before dropping the site and dissapearing.

Run away, as fast as you can.

[drifttuners]

A "diesel" RB20DE Neo eh?http://stock.drifttuners.com/s...earch

There a couple of things wrong with this "company".

1. they are so dumb they don't know what engine the car has in it but expect you to buy it.

2. The reason they don't know is twofold, first the are stupid but more importantly they don't have the car. This company actually has the car.http://www.goo-net.com/used/sp....html

Look familiar?

This is not the first time I have seen this scam. Here is how it works.

You set up a website and give the impression you are an established legitamate importer.

You get a freind, usually an active duty or former military member in Japan to do the legwork.

You watch the Japanese auto trader sites like this one.http://www.goo-net.com/used/su....html

You pick cars from there, copy the photos, assign a bull**** "stock number" to them to give the impression that you have it on hand.

If some poor soul gives you money you tell your runner to go buy it and stick it in a container. That's if you actually intend to try to get the car, I suspect many of these fly by night "companies" are just out to steal as much money as they can before dropping the site and dissapearing.

Run away, as fast as you can.

First off bud we have a shop in Japan. Second we also have over 340 cars on GOO and Trade Car view, if you do your research you will see that they are directories not company's selling there own stock. As for fly-by-night, don't think so. We have a large client base in the US and Canada, we also Drift in the Pros bud... As for your little theory, you have a big imagination.

[sr20deTsomeday118]

First off bud we have a shop in Japan. Second we also have over 340 cars on GOO and Trade Car view, if you do your research you will see that they are directories not company's selling there own stock. As for fly-by-night, don't think so. We have a large client base in the US and Canada, we also Drift in the Pros bud... As for your little theory, you have a big imagination.

i almost got ripped by a scam like this, i backed out on a 350z that just was too good to be true. days later somebody posted a scam thread through craiglist saying that there was a 350z scammed from him...that would have torn me up

[exhsturbine]

First off bud we have a shop in Japan. Second we also have over 340 cars on GOO and Trade Car view, if you do your research you will see that they are directories not company's selling there own stock. As for fly-by-night, don't think so. We have a large client base in the US and Canada, we also Drift in the Pros bud... As for your little theory, you have a big imagination.

.... is it me.... or are there alot of these sorts of threads on the gtr forum? supaca imports anyone? though, i did appreciate that this gentleman didnt swear like the woman from supaca.

[Gold Digger]

First off bud we have a shop in Japan. Second we also have over 340 cars on GOO and Trade Car view, if you do your research you will see that they are directories not company's selling there own stock. As for fly-by-night, don't think so. We have a large client base in the US and Canada, we also Drift in the Pros bud... As for your little theory, you have a big imagination.

Where bouts in Japan? I'd like to come by and see your opperation. If I find that you are legit, maybe we can work something out to get you some kind of decent exposure here on the boards.

Your call. We have nothing to lose and you have everything to gain. Letting me come down to see your shop would go MILES with out member base. It would be a win/win for both of us.

[themadscientist]

phone number is Tokyo, english message on the fax line.

If you own these vehicles, which you know you don't. How do you explain not knowing what is under the hood? Oh look another diesel Skyline!http://stock.drifttuners.com/s...earch

From your own website, sounds exactly like what I described.http://drifttuners.com/?id=terms

So let's see, you don't refund a deposit. I agree with that by the way, fair business practice.

The customer then pays you the full amount up front and you clearly state if it gets damaged you won't pay for it. tisk tisk

You are suspect, I don't care how flashy your website is.

Like OMG you drift in the pros, I feel so privileged to actually speak with an honest to god legend. Not relevant even if it is true. I would check on that but I would have to give a **** about drifting which I don't and it would have to be relevant which it ain't.

[drifttuners]

phone number is Tokyo, english message on the fax line.

If you own these vehicles, which you know you don't. How do you explain not knowing what is under the hood? Oh look another diesel Skyline!http://stock.drifttuners.com/s...earch

From your own website, sounds exactly like what I described.http://drifttuners.com/?id=terms

So let's see, you don't refund a deposit. I agree with that by the way, fair business practice.

The customer then pays you the full amount up front and you clearly state if it gets damaged you won't pay for it. tisk tisk

You are suspect, I don't care how flashy your website is.

Like OMG you drift in the pros, I feel so privileged to actually speak with an honest to god legend. Not relevant even if it is true. I would check on that but I would have to give a **** about drifting which I don't and it would have to be relevant which it ain't.

953 Yanokuchi Inagi-CityTokyo Japan 206-0812

[drifttuners]

Where bouts in Japan? I'd like to come by and see your opperation. If I find that you are legit, maybe we can work something out to get you some kind of decent exposure here on the boards.

Your call. We have nothing to lose and you have everything to gain. Letting me come down to see your shop would go MILES with out member base. It would be a win/win for both of us.

Thanks for the offer of exposure but if I wanted that I would become a sponsor.

The shop is at 953 Yanokuchi Inagi-CityTokyo Japan 206-0812

Call the cell before going 011 +81 90 1618 9115 I can arrange it so you can get a guided tour from Mr. Igarashi

Right now we are building our R34, for next season for DMCC in Canada. Any one here been to DMCC??

[drifttuners]

With the importing business, just like 95% of the importers don't own the cars they are selling (hence there an importer not a dealer). Auctions are used to bid on the behalf of customers at their request. What we do is buy from dealers on the customer’s request not auctions, our site is like a directory just like most where we have access to these cars through our partners and facilitate in importing them. Any info you want on our company you can simple call A & A in BC Canada and ask for Brittany or you can call CBSA (Canadian customs) and give them our import registration number and business number that is located at the bottom of every page on the website. Anyways great talking to you, contact me directly if you have any questions. I don’t do the forum thing much so I might not be back. You can check us out in the sponsor section at http://son240sx.org Thanks!

[drifttuners]

One more thing, I think your saying that the NEO is not what is describe?? The NEO is a 2.5L (RB25DET) also can be NA or turbo, gas or diesel

[themadscientist]

no such thing as a deisel R34 guy, you can call it a ham on rye if you want. I hope you are legit, it would be a nice change. I must remain sceptical but you have definately not acted like any of the scammers that have passed through which bouys my hope.

[Gold Digger]

Thanks for the offer of exposure but if I wanted that I would become a sponsor.

Man, that's kinda harsh. I don't know if I want to tell you to die in a fire for a remark like that, or if I just take it as your way of saying you aren't interested in getting anywhere around 100k+ people viewing your site. We have a broad member base here that isn't just into Nissans. Many or our members like other marquis as well.

I'll let it slide as just, possibly, misinterpretation.

The shop is at 953 Yanokuchi Inagi-CityTokyo Japan 206-0812

Call the cell before going 011 +81 90 1618 9115 I can arrange it so you can get a guided tour from Mr. Igarashi

Does Mr. Igarashi speak English. My Nihongo isn't what I'd like it to be, plus I may have a lot of questions. I have a few days off in November that I could probably swing by. I just need to know what the closest train station is to the shop. I could probably catch a taxi there from the station, but a ride from someone on that end would work, too.

One question I do have for you that is kind of important.

Do you state that you can make your cars 100% state legal? Or do you just tell your customers, "We can get it for you, but the rest of the registering process and legalization is up to you"?

EDIT By Gold DiggerNevermind the above question. I found something on your website that was quite surprising.

I have to give you credit. At least you say what is needed from the prospective buyer before you will even consider letting them purchase from you. I didn't realize that you were an importer or "Track Only" cars. That's a differnt route altogether, but at least you say what you will do.

Our problem isn't with importers, so much as it is with importers that make claims we are positive they can't back up.

[drifttuners]

Man, that's kinda harsh. I don't know if I want to tell you to die in a fire for a remark like that, or if I just take it as your way of saying you aren't interested in getting anywhere around 100k+ people viewing your site. We have a broad member base here that isn't just into Nissans. Many or our members like other marquis as well.

I'll let it slide as just, possibly, misinterpretation.

Does Mr. Igarashi speak English. My Nihongo isn't what I'd like it to be, plus I may have a lot of questions. I have a few days off in November that I could probably swing by. I just need to know what the closest train station is to the shop. I could probably catch a taxi there from the station, but a ride from someone on that end would work, too.

One question I do have for you that is kind of important.

Do you state that you can make your cars 100% state legal? Or do you just tell your customers, "We can get it for you, but the rest of the registering process and legalization is up to you"?

EDIT By Gold DiggerNevermind the above question. I found something on your website that was quite surprising.

I have to give you credit. At least you say what is needed from the prospective buyer before you will even consider letting them purchase from you. I didn't realize that you were an importer or "Track Only" cars. That's a differnt route altogether, but at least you say what you will do.

Our problem isn't with importers, so much as it is with importers that make claims we are positive they can't back up.

Man, that's kinda harsh. I don't know if I want to tell you to die in a fire for a remark like that, or if I just take it as your way of saying you aren't interested in getting anywhere around 100k+ people viewing your site. We have a broad member base here that isn't just into Nissans. Many or our members like other marquis as well.

I'll let it slide as just, possibly, misinterpretation.

Does Mr. Igarashi speak English. My Nihongo isn't what I'd like it to be, plus I may have a lot of questions. I have a few days off in November that I could probably swing by. I just need to know what the closest train station is to the shop. I could probably catch a taxi there from the station, but a ride from someone on that end would work, too.

One question I do have for you that is kind of important.

Do you state that you can make your cars 100% state legal? Or do you just tell your customers, "We can get it for you, but the rest of the registering process and legalization is up to you"?

EDIT By Gold DiggerNevermind the above question. I found something on your website that was quite surprising.

I have to give you credit. At least you say what is needed from the prospective buyer before you will even consider letting them purchase from you. I didn't realize that you were an importer or "Track Only" cars. That's a differnt route altogether, but at least you say what you will do.

Our problem isn't with importers, so much as it is with importers that make claims we are positive they can't back up.

Quote, originally posted by drifttuners »

"Thanks for the offer of exposure but if I wanted that I would become a sponsor. "

"Man, that's kinda harsh. I don't know if I want to tell you to die in a fire for a remark like that, or if I just take it as your way of saying you aren't interested in getting anywhere around 100k+ people viewing your site. We have a broad member base here that isn't just into Nissans. Many or our members like other marquis as well. "

Ya sorry dude didn’t mean anything by it, it's just there can be a fine line talking about a company when your the one who owns it on the forums, not trying to promote without the sponsor status. I would be interested in becoming a sponsor, I think it's important to be exposed as a legit importer over the scams advertised.

Also yes Mr. Igarashi speaks good English, he dose alot of international business so he travels alot. If you in the area check it out, quite impressive really, I wish I could get out there more often but the business keeps things going well and the Drift thing is very time consuming.

I appreciate how you guys stand-up when challenging a business, these days you can't be to carefull. One of the things I don’t like about the forums is sometimes it’s hard to hear emotion, when I say things like “Thanks for the offer of exposure but if I wanted that I would become a sponsor. “ I’m being blunt, to the point and sometimes people may think that it's rude but to me it’s important to be honest and upfront, if I said it on the phone you would have taken it a different way.

As for your question “Do you state that you can make your cars 100% state legal? Or do you just tell your customers, "We can get it for you, but the rest of the registering process and legalization is up to you"?”

I was going to answer it but seen the following line that you understand now. If you have any other questions just email through the website. We do import for street use into the U.S. but the vehicles must be 25 years old or be on the list of non-conforming vehicles that are eligible to be imported. All the info is on the website. We have imported a bunch of Skylines into the U.S but the Federalization process cost $26,000 for the work needed for the Skyline, OBD II etc.. For all other JDMs the cost is much lower.

Before the car can even be imported to the U.S. for street use, we first have to setup the bond with our RI location and get permission from the EPA, NHTSA etc. once we get that entrance permission then the car goes to the RI for the federalization process. It can take a long time but on average time from leaving Japan to your door step you’re looking at a good 6 months.

Now importing a track car is different, we have imported for D1, Formula Drift and also have had D1 cars for sale on our website. We are not importing as a track car to get around the U.S. laws, you’re stupid if you try, we legitimately import strictly for track use when we say this is being imported for track use. There is also a limit when a track car can stay in the U.S., 5 years tops if you pay the fees to customs to do so. After the 5 years the car can be exported out of the Country then re-entered for another 5 years. We have a location in Canada where we offer the service to our U.S. customers if there a competitive driver, we will import there custom built track car then after the 5 years export it on the off season, do some work on it and get permission to re-import it for the new race season.

Anyways there is a wealth of information when it comes to this topic, as you know. But in the end yes we are legit, we are up front and honest, we are blunt, I don’t like to waste customers time or my time leading them on, giving their hopes up. I like to deal with the money issue first to get that out of the way, if a customer knows we can import a "Skyline" into the U.S. legally then the first thing is – I tell them the cost, $26,000 + price of the car + Government entrance fees, customs etc… We include the shipping.

In the end I respect you guys and I hope to gain your trust. I would be interested in becoming a sponsor so any info on that would be cool. Maybe no one could fork out the cash to import a Skyline here on State side but I would like to keep a presence and help educate members and fight the fake importers. Like I said call me or email me if you have any questions.

P.S. I hate when people ask about taking out the motor or shipping it as a kit car, there is no Government provision for a kit car so anyone reading this from the outside as a non member of the forum, don’t waste my time with your illegal intents.


Modified by drifttuners at 11:28 AM 10/21/2008

[drifttuners]

Sorry, one more thing - there are some forums (2) out there that put me down like Sean Morris, gtrcanada etc.. because they simply did not take the time to lissen to me, it's hard to talk to somone when there mind is set on you being a scam. I guess you can't please everyone, but I do try.
Modified by drifttuners at 11:29 AM 10/21/2008

[drifttuners]

Also my mistake, my brother uploaded a bunch of cars to the site. The NEO dose exists in a diesel but not in the skyline (NEO Di diesel Engine)... My bad!

[themadscientist]

Sorry, one more thing - there are some forums (2) out there that put me down like Sean Morris, gtrcanada etc.. because they simply did not take the time to lissen to me, it's hard to talk to somone when there mind is set on you being a scam. I guess you can't please everyone, but I do try.

Modified by drifttuners at 11:29 AM 10/21/2008

I have to start from that position and see where it takes me. I have seen too many people get screwed and it makes me mad. I don't want anybody to lose money. Nothing personal just due dilligence. If Neal likes what he sees I will retract my accusations immediately.

[Gold Digger]

Thanks for a calm, levelheaded reply.

You got mail.

[drifttuners]

I have to start from that position and see where it takes me. I have seen too many people get screwed and it makes me mad. I don't want anybody to lose money. Nothing personal just due dilligence. If Neal likes what he sees I will retract my accusations immediately.

I totally understand your point. If you look around thou you won’t find any of our customers/people saying that we ripped them off. It's interesting that people on other forums put DRIFT Tuners down as a scam but yet not one person has ever said that we ripped them off directly. You will never find that either.

[drifttuners]

Thanks for a calm, levelheaded reply.

You got mail.

Got it, replied, Thanks buddy!

[boycottdrifttuners]

READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!! REGARDING JEREMY BODDY THE SCAMMER!IM GONNA TELL YOU ALL THE HONEST TRUTH ABOUT JEREMY BODDY. FOOLISHLY I TRIED TO PURCHASE A CAR FROM HIM ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I SENT HIM 14 THOUSAND DOLLARS. I HAVE STILL YET TO RECIEVE A CAR OR MY MONEY. I SCARED HIM INTO SENDING ME 4 GRAND, BUT I HAVENT HEARD FROM HIM IN 7 MONTHS AND HAS YET TO SEND ME THE REMAINING 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS. I HAD ANOTHER GUY CONTACT ME WHO SAID HE OWES HIM 13 GRAND. I WOULD NOT RECCOMMEND, IN A MILLION YEARS, THAT ANYONE; CANADIAN, AMERICAN, TURKISH!!!!, PURCHASE A CAR OFF THIS GUY UNLESS YOU WANT TO GET RIPPED OFF. HE SAT THERE AND LIED TO ME EVERYDAY FOR ALMOST A YEAR THAT MY MONEY WAS COMING AND ALL THESE EXCUSES ABOUT HOW HE WAS SENDING IT MY WAY, BLA BLA BLA AND HE KNEW THIS WHOLE TIME THAT IM AN EXPECTANT FATHER AND A FULL TIME STUDENT AND ALL I AM ASKING FOR IS MY MONEY BACK. HE MADE UP STORY AFTER STORY AND PROBABLY TOOK YEARS OFF MY LIFE DUE TO THE STRESS FROM THIS. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS OUT THERE TO SAVE ANYONE ELSE FROM GOING THRU THE s*** I HAVE IN THIS PAST YEAR. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT ME VIA THIS FORUM.

p.s.: jeremy, imma keep goin all day till i see my money

[EL MAMITO USMC]

READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!! REGARDING JEREMY BODDY THE SCAMMER!IM GONNA TELL YOU ALL THE HONEST TRUTH ABOUT JEREMY BODDY. FOOLISHLY I TRIED TO PURCHASE A CAR FROM HIM ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I SENT HIM 14 THOUSAND DOLLARS. I HAVE STILL YET TO RECIEVE A CAR OR MY MONEY. I SCARED HIM INTO SENDING ME 4 GRAND, BUT I HAVENT HEARD FROM HIM IN 7 MONTHS AND HAS YET TO SEND ME THE REMAINING 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS. I HAD ANOTHER GUY CONTACT ME WHO SAID HE OWES HIM 13 GRAND. I WOULD NOT RECCOMMEND, IN A MILLION YEARS, THAT ANYONE; CANADIAN, AMERICAN, TURKISH!!!!, PURCHASE A CAR OFF THIS GUY UNLESS YOU WANT TO GET RIPPED OFF. HE SAT THERE AND LIED TO ME EVERYDAY FOR ALMOST A YEAR THAT MY MONEY WAS COMING AND ALL THESE EXCUSES ABOUT HOW HE WAS SENDING IT MY WAY, BLA BLA BLA AND HE KNEW THIS WHOLE TIME THAT IM AN EXPECTANT FATHER AND A FULL TIME STUDENT AND ALL I AM ASKING FOR IS MY MONEY BACK. HE MADE UP STORY AFTER STORY AND PROBABLY TOOK YEARS OFF MY LIFE DUE TO THE STRESS FROM THIS. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS OUT THERE TO SAVE ANYONE ELSE FROM GOING THRU THE s*** I HAVE IN THIS PAST YEAR. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT ME VIA THIS FORUM.

p.s.: jeremy, imma keep goin all day till i see my money

damn bro i hope you get your money back .. and if you ever see him make sure you take his head and send it in a silver platter

[dsastr_clan]

Got it, replied, Thanks buddy!

so whats up with the money??? is this true?

[rc1honda]

Dude is a scam artist, there have been countless threads of this guy ripping people off. And also on another forum there is a thread where this guy attacks Sean Morris and Morris pwns him. The guy has no real knowlegde of importing, or legalization. much less about the cars he is trying to sell. Stay away form this company like the plauge. That is if you like keeping your money. The crappy part is if you get scammed most of these companies just get a slap on the wrist when you try and fight back.

[PBfrEAk]

Sooo...TMS, Gold Digger, what ever happened to this guy? It would be nice to know if this is all true or not.

[themadscientist]

scammer.