R33 to R34 Conversion

[Arandhawa23]

I am in the process of importing a Nissan Skyline R33 GTR. I really like the R34 GTR Look. VIS Racing produces a front kit. Does anyone have actual pictures of their front kit? Also do you know where to get the rear conversion, or does it have to be custom made?

[sketch]

Im curious where your getting it imported to and who your doing it thru.....

[jbracy7]

Why would you do it, its not legal,and will cost a boat load of money

[Arandhawa23]

How is it not legal? I'm getting a legal 1996 R33 GTR with DOT and EPA Certification through an RI. It's my car I can do whatever I want. I just installed a Body kit. They already have Front Conversion by VIS for $3000. The rear conversion will be custom. Plus R34 is my dream car and no point on importing a R34 and doing a crash test to just get it legal.

I'm importing it from Japan to a RI who will have everything set for me.

[tyndago]

How is it not legal? I'm getting a legal 1996 R33 GTR with DOT and EPA Certification through an RI.
I'm importing it from Japan to a RI who will have everything set for me.

Thats a cool story. Let us know how it turns out. There is only one place that could actually do it, JK Motors in Baltimore. However they are pretty much full of s*** because an OBD II system does not exist in a certified state for a Nissan GT-R. They talk the talk, but can't walk the walk.

Quick to take your money by pumping you full of it.

[Gold Digger]

Here's a question I don't think I've seen asked or answered.

On the OBD II issue, does that fall under the NHTSA or EPA regulations? In essence, does the 21 year exemption for the EPA cover the OBD II or is it the 25 year mark for NHTSA/DOT?

[OutToWinPAHC]

That is a good question. As for the R34 conversion.... ehhh looks weird seen them done before

[Arandhawa23]

I have contacted JK Motors and they ask for $36k to do it. Money is no problem for me. I will ask them about this ODB II system. I have a professional body shop installing the R34 Front Conversion from VIS, but the back is custom. Will that be legal to do?

[OutToWinPAHC]

That would be an as case basis, but in the eyes of who would be stopping you they probably have no idea.

[tyndago]

Here's a question I don't think I've seen asked or answered.

On the OBD II issue, does that fall under the NHTSA or EPA regulations? In essence, does the 21 year exemption for the EPA cover the OBD II or is it the 25 year mark for NHTSA/DOT?

OBD II is from the EPA. Anything emissions is EPA. Anything safety is the NHTSA/DOT.

As far as $36k, a fool and his money are soon parted. You had better have a really good look at those contracts. You had better call the EPA on their certified OBD II system. If they have all that stuff, they should be able to fax or email it to you right away. If they stammer around the subject....well you have your "real" answer.

JK has been claiming OBD II since I went there in 1999. Yes I have actually spent time there, I know the people, and I know they are full of s***.

[Arandhawa23]

They claim that they can do the OBDII. They told me they just sold a car to someone in New Jersey. Anybody on the forum ever dealt with them before?

[Gold Digger]

Here's a question I don't think I've seen asked or answered.

On the OBD II issue, does that fall under the NHTSA or EPA regulations? In essence, does the 21 year exemption for the EPA cover the OBD II or is it the 25 year mark for NHTSA/DOT?

OBD II is from the EPA. Anything emissions is EPA. Anything safety is the NHTSA/DOT.

Thanks for the insight on this Sean.

So, in theory...in 2016, my car will be 21 years old. It will then be exempt from the OBD II ordeal, right? So, I could...again, in theory...have the car made safety compliant by NHTSA/DOT standards and imported?

And here's another question that maybe has been asked but I can't seem to remember.

If I were to have a 96-98 Skyline and I were to be moving back to the states from Japan, after I have de-regged the car, could I have a shop here in Japan, with the information JK has made public about the process to make the car up to snuff on the NHTSA/DOT safety regulations, do all the work before exporting it from here? Or is this something that has to be done in the U.S. so it can be inspected before anything else takes place?

By the way...I e-mailed you a question last weekend I would like to hear your input on. If you have a minute, could you check on that for me? Thanks!

[tyndago]

They claim that they can do the OBDII. They told me they just sold a car to someone in New Jersey. Anybody on the forum ever dealt with them before?

I claim that I can fly. Anyone can make claims. Ask them to back it up with proof.

Hard proof is easy, and at your fingertips if you are doing it right. When someone stammers around it, they are full of it. So they should be able to send you copies of the EPA paperwork for the FTP's they have done on the cars.

Just trying to help you out, so you ask the right questions.

Here is an R33- not OBD-II on the FTP dyno a lot of years ago...

[tyndago]

So, in theory...in 2016, my car will be 21 years old. It will then be exempt from the OBD II ordeal, right? So, I could...again, in theory...have the car made safety compliant by NHTSA/DOT standards and imported?

And here's another question that maybe has been asked but I can't seem to remember.

If I were to have a 96-98 Skyline and I were to be moving back to the states from Japan, after I have de-regged the car, could I have a shop here in Japan, with the information JK has made public about the process to make the car up to snuff on the NHTSA/DOT safety regulations, do all the work before exporting it from here? Or is this something that has to be done in the U.S. so it can be inspected before anything else takes place?

By the way...I e-mailed you a question last weekend I would like to hear your input on. If you have a minute, could you check on that for me? Thanks!

Over 21 is EPA exempt, but needs to be imported in its original configuration. Local states may give you a harder time over it. California is always interesting.

Its not worth trying to bring back a 1996 until its 25 years old. Any mods you did, according to the RI rules, need to be preformed by the RI, so you aren't going to save any money.

Question last weekend. Which email? My personal or work?

[Gold Digger]

Wierd....I just checked my yahoo, and apparently I didn't send it. I tried sending it from my phone, but it was having issues last weekend. Gonna try sending it again on my PC. Sorry, dude.

[themadscientist]

You tard

[Arandhawa23]

Then how can I Import a R33 GTR to the US?

[jbracy7]

In short the only way to do it legally, is to get a registered importer from the list that that the dot has aproved already,then spend a boat load of cash,then maybe the epa will accecpt the paper work. But truthfully I have seen many state registered r32,r33,r34's siezed crushed and shreded, the federal goverment over rules the states every time.

[tyndago]

Then how can I Import a R33 GTR to the US?

You really can't. You can, but you can't.

If you really want a car, you need to find a Motorex car that is already here, or wait until they are over 25 years old.

If you can't wait, and can't find a car, then I hope you have very deep pockets.

[Arandhawa23]

I have decided to wait 2 year and just pick up an EVO for now. After 2 years, how will the process be? Will there be ridiculous importing fees and stuff?

[tyndago]

I have decided to wait 2 year and just pick up an EVO for now. After 2 years, how will the process be? Will there be ridiculous importing fees and stuff?

Over 25 years old, the process will not be that expensive.

[Arandhawa23]

How can i get proof on the R33 OBD? I really need one of these cars. Any help? I hate to wait 2 year when almost all the parts will be discontinued.

[tyndago]

How can i get proof on the R33 OBD? I really need one of these cars. Any help? I hate to wait 2 year when almost all the parts will be discontinued.

Proof that it exists, or it doesn't exist?

If you want proof it exists, bring an OBD II scanner and plug it into a car. Check for the readiness. Its pretty easy.



Proof it doesn't exist? Well I am telling you, and if you know of anyone with more experience with this specific car, and this specific process, then well they wouldn't exist.

[Arandhawa23]

Thx man, I rather wait then see my car being crushed. How are the Motorex R33 still legal?

[OutToWinPAHC]

At the time they were thought to be in order for the short story and grandfathered in. How deep are you pockets? And if you need ODB2 you can do it...... AEM trigger wheel, LS1 knock sensors, GM map, GM IAT, GM ecu (inline 6 aka 4.8L)

[Arandhawa23]

I have all the money I need, thanks to God. The problem is I want to keep the car with it own electronics and such

[OutToWinPAHC]

just locate a motorex car, they are popping up

[OutToWinPAHC]

just locate a motorex car, they are popping up

[tyndago]

I have all the money I need, thanks to God. The problem is I want to keep the car with it own electronics and such

You can't "keep the car with its own electronics" if you want to meet US standards. So you have the situation of not been able to meet standards, and therefore not legal if you don't alter the electronics, or alter it and not keep it the way you want to, and have a chance for it to be legal.

Simply what "you want" is not enough to be legal in the US. Your pockets better be very deep. 13 years, and I have not met another person that has been able to do it, however I do talk to about one person a month that "says" they will.

[jpierre]

I have all the money I need, thanks to God. The problem is I want to keep the car with it own electronics and such

Arandhawa23 go to el paso craigslist and search for r33, there is 2 of them for sell for really good prices, and they have mostly stock everything