R33 myth or fact

Post by **i wanaskyline** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:12 pm

Im moving to Japan in december. Ill be there for four years. when I come home I want to bring a skyline home. I've done lots of research on bringing the skyline back but it seems my dream of an R34 is impossible. Is it true that the R33 can be brought back to the states,and do you have to have an RI do it or can you do the mods yourself to make it legal?

Post by **VMPhil** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:00 pm

read the sticky at the top of the skyline forum. Currently no RI's can bring in any Skylines.

Post by **Gold Digger** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:15 pm

What about the 96-98s? Aren't those still "eligible"?

Post by **VMPhil** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:23 pm

Gold Digger wrote:What about the 96-98s? Aren't those still "eligible"?

Unless the Registered Imported has the crash data to make the necessary modifications, no. Its not about a car being eligible its about a RI being equipped to make the necessary changes to the cars crash and smog specs to meet current US standards and then being government certified and endorsed so that they can submit all the necessary paper work so that the government doesn't try to impound any cars they bring in.

Post by **sacrifise8** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:40 pm

would it be possible to get away with it if you live in a state where your car doesn't need to be inspected to be registered? because I live in the middle of nowhere, tennessee and I don't have to get my car smog tested, or anything to get it registered, all I have to have is the title and money.

Post by **VMPhil** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:28 am

sacrifise8 wrote:would it be possible to get away with it if you live in a state where your car doesn't need to be inspected to be registered? because I live in the middle of nowhere, tennessee and I don't have to get my car smog tested, or anything to get it registered, all I have to have is the title and money.

Possible? anything is possible. you will have to look over your shoulder quite a bit however since the feds are gunning for these no matter where you live. Even for some one to live in the middle of no where Montana with almost no existing Smog rules or regulations, all i takes is for you to be pulled over once and it could be all over.

Post by **i wanaskyline** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:05 pm

I understand that no RI do it presently but the contract with the Feds and Motorex is up and you can view all the requirements for leaglization. so with that info will or can an RI perform the necessary changes...or can I do those changes myself?

Post by **VMPhil** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:18 pm

i wanaskyline wrote:I understand that no RI do it presently but the contract with the Feds and Motorex is up and you can view all the requirements for leaglization. so with that info will or can an RI perform the necessary changes...or can I do those changes myself?

*edit* actually let me correct myself - Only 1 RI can do it currently because they have the crash data and they WONT. they are sick and tired of the mess with the Skylines IIRC.

You cannot make the structural changes to the car to meet crash standards unless you have the crash data and a body shop.
Modified by VMPhil at 6:32 AM 7/25/2009

Post by **Gold Digger** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:51 pm

And considering that you are going to spend close or over $10k easily, that's a really expensive risk that isn't worth the reward if you don't get caught.

I'd just hold tight another 4-5 years when the R32 becomes legal, and then import it back. You'll be here with the military anyway, so just snag one for the cheap while here, build it the way you want and once it hits the 25 year mark, which will be about the time you PCS back stateside (I guess you can only do a maximum of 2 tours over here now), and you'll be golden.

Post by **natedogg22** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:40 pm

people used to bring cars over take em to vegas register them than transfer title to cali...but i unnno if that works anymore...

Post by **VMPhil** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:38 am

natedogg22 wrote:people used to bring cars over take em to vegas register them than transfer title to cali...but i unnno if that works anymore...

i would say thats a negative.

Post by **EliteGTR** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:42 pm

Gold Digger wrote:What about the 96-98s? Aren't those still "eligible"?

No. 96 & up vehicles must have OBDII

Post by **Gold Digger** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:34 am

VMPhil wrote:
Unless the Registered Imported has the crash data to make the necessary modifications, no. Its not about a car being eligible its about a RI being equipped to make the necessary changes to the cars crash and smog specs to meet current US standards and then being government certified and endorsed so that they can submit all the necessary paper work so that the government doesn't try to impound any cars they bring in.

Still doesn't mean a car can't be eligible.

I understand what you are swaying, but the car itself is on the list of non-conforming vehicles eligible for import.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/...7.pdf

Little over halfway down page 17.

EliteGTR wrote:
No. 96 & up vehicles must have OBDII

You are correct, which is what makes this a sticky point on importing. Trying to get a non OBD II ECU/engine to be compliant.

But, as I said before, it's still eligible for import, provided the RI can/is willing to do all the modifications to get it done.

Post by **VMPhil** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:44 pm

Gold Digger wrote:
Still doesn't mean a car can't be eligible.

I understand what you are swaying, but the car itself is on the list of non-conforming vehicles eligible for import.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/...7.pdf

Little over halfway down page 17.

You are correct, which is what makes this a sticky point on importing. Trying to get a non OBD II ECU/engine to be compliant.

But, as I said before, it's still eligible for import, provided the RI can/is willing to do all the modifications to get it done.

that was my point, sure it is eligible however currently only one RI has the data and they WONT do it. which is why it doesn't matter if it is eligible if no one can do the work. An RI has to put up the dough to import 3-4 similar skylines just to wreck them so they can gather enough data to do the needed mods for USA crash spec. If the data were to be made public (which people are petitioning for) then it wouldn't be a problem.

Post by **i wanaskyline** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:18 am

but according to this site and a few others that crash data has been released read the artical on importinig skylines on NICOclub it even has a link and you can see the data for yourself. My question is can I do the work myself since I have the crash data(I live in alabama no emmissions testing and yes I have family with bodyshop so I have the capability too make the mods)

Post by **VMPhil** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:08 pm

i wanaskyline wrote: but according to this site and a few others that crash data has been released read the artical on importinig skylines on NICOclub it even has a link and you can see the data for yourself. My question is can I do the work myself since I have the crash data(I live in alabama no emmissions testing and yes I have family with bodyshop so I have the capability too make the mods)

If that is indeed the case then sure go nuts.
Modified by VMPhil at 4:14 PM 8/2/2009

Post by **EliteGTR** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:24 pm

i wanaskyline wrote: but according to this site and a few others that crash data has been released read the artical on importinig skylines on NICOclub it even has a link and you can see the data for yourself. My question is can I do the work myself since I have the crash data(I live in alabama no emmissions testing and yes I have family with bodyshop so I have the capability too make the mods)

pretty sure you would still have to be a certified and registered shop to do the work. don't think the government is going to buy that you did the work yourself. doesn't matter the emissions for your state without an obdII system the car will never be legal to import. car must meet all federal requirements for those years.

Post by **imwright1985** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:40 am

you could possibly mod a 300zx turbo harness to plug in to some of the skyline equipment or swap some of the 300zx components adjust the length of some of the connections then with programming on the 300zx pcm get it on obd2. you would need both cars wiring schematics and an understanding of automobile wiring plus a reflash on the pcm

looks like obd2 is needed, side impact tests failed so needs reinforcement properly done for side impact test, and instruments need brought upto USA code which includes speedo in MPH, brake failure warning, seatbelt reminder, 3rd brakelight, side markers need to be dot approved and possibly something with the airbags

Post by **DriftTuners.com** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:23 am

VMPhil wrote:read the sticky at the top of the skyline forum. Currently no RI's can bring in any Skylines.

WRONG!

Post by **themadscientist** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:02 am

DriftTuners.com wrote:
WRONG!

I am ready to beleive you. No, wait, you're that a$$ scammer we exposed months ago.

Post by **fritzy** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:21 am

if you want a skyline get an early r32 and import it after the 25 year rule is up.

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