r 34 illegal why?

[R34fanatic]

The reason they are illegal to import is becuase they do not meet DOT standards such as the glass is not high enough quality. EMISSIONS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!! A while back there was a company in California that managed to legaly get about 50 of them in and crash tested the required 5 and converted them to meet DOT standards. They also went for $100,000 each. There is another way to get one. It is not a real skyline but it is as close as one can get. There is company called Kaizo industries, their website is kaizoindustires.com, they manufacture a R34 Unibody. They even give it a 12 digit U.S vin number. The only problem is then you have to go find the engine, Interior, Brakes, suspension, transmission, etc. and put it all together. So it is a kit car and not a real skyline even though it has all skyline parts. And it can be registerd in any state.

[BigMACKenzie]

this is retarded, a cars a ****ing car, its just the driver

You never stop trying to earn your name huh dude? you should see a doctor about that diarrhea of the mouth.

[Vandrel]

I actually called the company in Maryland that crash tested the R33's for Motorex and they said that nowadays, just to set up the testing would cost about $1 million dollars. And that was in addition to the cost of the number of vehicles that had to be tested-likely a minimum of 4. That was probably about 2 to 3 years ago when I called them. This forum mentions that business by name in the 'Import Skyline' thread. That business is also pretty displeased with all the Skyline questions they receive. So be prepared for a short response. They also refused to release any test result information due to some sort of confidentiality agreement with Motorex. I have heard a rumor that Hiro (I think that's his name-I couldn't understand them very well) will sell you the test results for the R33 however. The rumor I heard was for about $20K. Again, this part hasn't been verified by me. I'd be interested in seeing if anyone else has heard anything similar. I've also read somewhere that Hiro is in a lot of trouble for non car related issues but I wouldn't even know who to call to verify that.

1 million dollars?

All of the crast testing data and required modifications to bring the vehicles into compliance with NHTSA standards are now public as of March 2008, I made a post with direct information and links in regards to this in May when they were finished posting the released information. All that is needed now is a cost effective OBDII system and anyone can spend a reasonable amount of money to import these things.

If someone at JK Tech told you otherwise they were a idiot and should be chit canned.

[zoneoneoni]

[QUOTE=The new GT-R is like Clay Aiken shot out of a cannon. It may be fast but its still gay.

Have we met? Hi I'm TMS, Nico's resident R hater. [/QUOTE]

R hater... So why are you posting on the Skyline board...? You're making a bunch of comments against GT-R's, etc and not expecting Skyline and R fans to get pissed and make comments back?

[themadscientist]

search is your friend, look me up and figure it out.

[SamuraiSam]

The reason they are illegal to import is becuase they do not meet DOT standards such as the glass is not high enough quality.

this is completely false. The glass in every single Skyline manufactured since at least 1989 meets every FMVSS and DOT requirement. MotoRex never had to have any glass manufacutred to compliance cars. The window seal might have needed modification, which is cake compared to the glass itself.

EMISSIONS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!

This is completely false. Emissions and EPA requirements have everything to do with importing especially post-1996 motor vehicles.

A while back there was a company in California that managed to legaly get about 50 of them in and crash tested the required 5 and converted them to meet DOT standards. They also went for $100,000 each.

Are you talking about MotoRex? Motorex imported about 100 GTS and GT-R. Their charge was $16,000 per car for conversion costs. They crash tested an R33 GTS at JK Technologies in a belted collision test to meet NHTSA requirements.

There is another way to get one. It is not a real skyline but it is as close as one can get. There is company called Kaizo industries, their website is kaizoindustires.com, they manufacture a R34 Unibody. They even give it a 12 digit U.S vin number. The only problem is then you have to go find the engine, Interior, Brakes, suspension, transmission, etc. and put it all together. So it is a kit car and not a real skyline even though it has all skyline parts. And it can be registerd in any state.

How is it not a real skyline? Kaizo's unibodies start out life as a stripped down Nissan Skyline GT-S or Skyline GT-R before being 'remanufactured'. US VIN's have 17 digits, not 12. Kaizo cars come with interiors and suspension components.

Where are you getting this info from? Are you pulling it straight out of your a$$? Stop spreading misinformation. Stop lying.
Modified by SamuraiSam at 3:30 PM 7/24/2008

[SamuraiSam]

1 million dollars?

All of the crast testing data and required modifications to bring the vehicles into compliance with NHTSA standards are now public as of March 2008, I made a post with direct information and links in regards to this in May when they were finished posting the released information. All that is needed now is a cost effective OBDII system and anyone can spend a reasonable amount of money to import these things.

If someone at JK Tech told you otherwise they were a idiot and should be chit canned.

Really. Where are you going to go to get the airbags that are referenced in VCP-17 and VCP-35? JK technologies. Do you think they are going to sell them to you? Do you think that with the rescindance of VCP-17, ANY of this applies to R34's?

[themadscientist]

My 84 Skyline has tempered glass, it's not an issue in any Nissan I have seen.

[zoneoneoni]

search is your friend, look me up and figure it out.

The one thing I cannot ****ing stand about this forum is that when someone is caught up or doesn't know what to say, they ALWAYS accuse the person of "not searching first". I'm sorry, but if you can't take the time to type out why you hate R's, Skylines, etc. then, in my opinion, you don't really seem to have a valid point. "Use the search, and you'll see" God, how ****ing annoying, I'm not about to read through all of your posts and hunt down why you hate R's. I'd be wasting about as much time as I am typing this long *** reply.

[themadscientist]

It's likely annonying because you never do it and get told that all the time. Having rattled off my various reasons for hating this gogogadget R ad nauseum you will have to humor me if I don't feel like explaining my reasons one more time to a kid with two years behind the wheel, 45 posts on the board, a wealth of experience about the car based on Google, wiki and Import Tuner and just too god-damned lazy to search. Nobody owes you a thing in this life son. Seek knowledge; don't expect others to bring it to you with a side of french fries.

My hate is well documented, to the point "IBTMS" is a new acronum in GT-R threads. This isn't school where you get the answers handed to you and a trophy for participation, it's the real world YOU LOOK IT UP. In the time it took you to type that reply you could have searched

[Gold Digger]

The one thing I cannot ****ing stand about this forum is that when someone is caught up or doesn't know what to say, they ALWAYS accuse the person of "not searching first". I'm sorry, but if you can't take the time to type out why you hate R's, Skylines, etc. then, in my opinion, you don't really seem to have a valid point. "Use the search, and you'll see" God, how ****ing annoying, I'm not about to read through all of your posts and hunt down why you hate R's. I'd be wasting about as much time as I am typing this long *** reply.

What you have to understand about TMS is that this guy is Old School Okinawa tuner. I don't fully know how things go down south of the mainland, but I can understand, and appreciate his opinions.

He's more of a guy who likes simplicity in design rather than PlayStation era vehicles, which is what our beloved automobile seems to be heading for. That's part of the reason I still like late 80's to late 90's cars. Simplistic design features, no computers assisting me in my driving, and still not to hard to turn a wrench on, if needed.

TMS can be abrasive sometimes, and even I dissagree with him sometimes. He's one of those guys that you'll never change, so it's just better to not respond to his posts if you don't like what he says. Trust me, he'll clown you more than you'll ever want to be if pushed to far.

[themadscientist]

What you have to understand about TMS is that this guy is Old School Okinawa tuner. I don't fully know how things go down south of the mainland, but I can understand, and appreciate his opinions.

He's more of a guy who likes simplicity in design rather than PlayStation era vehicles, which is what our beloved automobile seems to be heading for. That's part of the reason I still like late 80's to late 90's cars. Simplistic design features, no computers assisting me in my driving, and still not to hard to turn a wrench on, if needed.

TMS can be abrasive sometimes, and even I dissagree with him sometimes. He's one of those guys that you'll never change, so it's just better to not respond to his posts if you don't like what he says. Trust me, he'll clown you more than you'll ever want to be if pushed to far.

Get a B pillar Neal!

[zoneoneoni]

Anyways, considering how I'm basically contradicting myself, let's just say **** this and get on with whatever we were doing. So, TMS, I apologize for being a arrogant ***, and let's just forget about it. If you're in the So Cal area, let's get some beers and be buddies or something.

[themadscientist]

just not ballpark beers, what are they like $8 or something, yikes! Almost cheaper to fill up with gasoline.

[brizanden]

^almost not quite tho hahah

[MastaYu]

they are illegal cause spilner shot 20ft nitrous purges and blew up some girls dress causing a sexual harassment backlash, and unforunately nissan japan cannot afford to hire ninjas to combat the DO, and thus the r34 is illegal in the us....