Quick Review: UltraGauge

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Nick 568
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Background:
A few months ago, a friend of mine picked up one of these for his Ranger to add MPG, Distance To Empty, and other basic functions his truck was missing. I decided since I tow about 1700 lbs with my Rogue every weekend in the winter for hundreds of miles at a time, I figured maybe I should pick up something similar to keep an eye on my various temps on the car.
I looked at the ScanGauge as well as the Ultragauge my friend picked up. Now, I'm a firm believer that you get what you pay for and would always rather spend more for the quality product. The ScanGauge II is about $160 online, the UltraGauge is $60 online before $9 rebate.
EDIT: I should mention...this can read and clear CEL codes too! For just $60!

Buying:
I purchased mine direct from the manufacturer at http://www.ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/index.htm
They ship exclusively through USPS Priority Mail if ordering in the US. (not sure what it'd be for you Canada guys) It shipped out within the next 2 business days and arrived on par with shipping time for USPS Priority.
Now....that rebate. I honestly didn't even bother messing with it. Didn't feel like messing with the hassle. I do know though that if you want to get your $9, you better follow their directions TO THE LETTER. I've heard of it taking people multiple tries to get it...the final time being the time they followed the directions to every detail, and then they received their rebate. One nice thing about the rebate is that they credit it back to your card instead of sending you a check in the mail.

Install:
Install is very simple. You plug the cable into the diagnostics port that's tucked at the bottom of the dash on the driver's side, just above your feet. (don't worry, the cable comes off of the left side of the plug instead of the middle/top. So your feet aren't gonna hit the cable ever) When you plug it in and turn the car on, the gauge goes through a discovery phase where it discoveres all the available gauges for your car. You then have the option to do a specific car setup procedure to tune the gauge for things like MPG, trip, DTE, TTE (time till empty), etc. I chose not to do this since I only wanted it to view real-time readout information. I'll stick with the Rogue's trip computer for MPG, trip, DTE, etc.
For the cable routing, I just pulled it over to the left, near the door jamb, and folded the cable up twice, and stuck it in the weather-stripping a bit as you can see in the pic below:

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Not the cleanest cable routing, but I've never had an issue with the cable getting caught/coming loose. (been installed for a few weeks now) Also, you don't at all see it when the door is closed, and even when getting in/out, I don't notice it. For cleaner cable routing, you could bundle up the cable under the dash, then stick just the 1 cord in the weather-stripping on the door.

For mounting, it includes the following mounts:

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A Suction mount, and some velcro strips. Since suction mounts tend to not work in -20 in the winter, I decided that wasn't for it. I also decided against the velcro mount because I'm not a van of seeing something jiggle/vibrate when I'm driving. Also, it would require mounting it flat on the surface, and there was nowhere I really wanted to mount it like that.
What I chose to do was cut a small, about 4"x2" strip of lexan with the bandsaw, and then bend it into an L-bracket by setting it over the edge of a brick, then heating it up with a heat gun until gravity bent it into an L. I then used double-sided tape to apply it to the back of the gauge, and then to the dash. Caution: You better use some damn good tape. I initially used some 'servo tape' I had laying around (GOOD servo tape at that) back from my RC days. It's a double-sided foam tape primarily used to absorb vibrations. On any day above 50, after leaving it sitting for 5 minutes or more, I'd come back to find the gauge had fallen over from the tape not holding with the heat.
Ended up picking up some Scotch brand 'Outdoor Mounting Tape' from Lowe's. Haven't had a problem since. The tape is gray against my black dash, which is less than ideal, but you can only tell from looking in from outside the vehicle.
Anyway, here's a pic of it mounted:

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Operation:
There's 3 buttons on the back. One is a general menu/select/enter button, and the other two are general page up/page down buttons. They're located on back, near the edges, so mounting my L-bracket between them wasn't an issue.
The gauge can display up to 6 different gauges on one screen. You do have multiple screens you can switch between, but I'd rather just have it on 1 screen and not try to switch screens while driving.

The following are pictures of all the different gauges available to display:

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The letters by the gauge items are the ones I have displayed on mine. Items A and B will be the top ones that are shown larger than the other 4.
One gauge that it does NOT display unfortunately is the transmission temperature. However, it's unable to display this from almost all manufacturers due to the wiring/programming of the diagnostic port. So I really wasn't expecting to be able to read the trans. temp, but was hoping to. Oh well.
Some of the gauges are a bit less useful than you'd think unfortunately. The engine load % doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me since it claims it can be at 89% load @ 2000 rpm w/ minimal throttle applied. It is however useful for a baseline comparison. (% normal cruising, vs cruising w/ trailer...head winds vs tail winds, etc) The fuel level % gauge is too depressing I find since it seems to drop .1% every second when driving in my hilly city, lol. I'm still playing around with the gauges and using them for a few weeks at a time to decide which ones I think are most useful.

There's also several settings and calibrations you can make to the device. I've honestly never even opened the instruction booklet, so I'm not even sure of all of them. (yes, the device is that intuitive that you don't really don't need to read the instructions unless you're calibrating it to the vehicle) I did discover last night that you can adjust the backlight level though! Great adjustment to have there.

Pros:
-Cheap...dirt cheap.
-Can read/clear trouble codes
-Lots of gauges to choose from
-Easy to read screen in any condition
-Lots of gauges displayed on one screen
-Ability to adjust screen contrast/brightness and set it to auto-adjust brightness or manually set it on a certain level
-Can read and display more gauges than the ScanGauge II

Cons:
-Some gauges less useful than you'd think
-In my opinion, honestly not all that vital of a device to have. But it was cheap, it's cool and fun to watch.

Like I said, this is just a quick overview of this nifty and super inexpensive device I picked up. I've been very pleased with it, and am glad to have it--especially glad to have the ability to view my battery voltage again...really missed that from my truck. When I'm out in the middle of nowhere in the Alaskan wilderness in the winter, I damn well want to know how my battery is doing.
Another use I had in mind was that thread a few months ago discussing how long to leave the Rogue idling in the winter. I can't say what you'd want your engine temperature to be before taking off, but maybe some expert such a Philipa can chime in on that one?

Let me know if you have any questions!


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Very cool - thanks for sharing. I just pickup up the ElmScan 5 Compact USB OBD-II Scan Tool & OBDWiz Engine Diagnostic Software. Looking forward to my first ride with it!

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Very cool toy and I have the same features plus some different ones like 0-60mi or 0-100km 1/4mi etc throw elm327 bluetooth adapter that I bought on ebay for $20 and simple soft on my android system. Also compatible w/ iphone and blueberry.
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Nice - Does it get in the way when you drive? Do you know what iPhone software acts as the diagnostic tool?

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Nope, not in my way at all when driving. If you look at the third picture where you can see it mounted, the picture was taken about at eye level and normal seating position for me. As you can see from the pic, it doesn't block anything from the windshield. However, I am 6'-2", so that probably contributes to me seeing over it.

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So Nick, I am planning to buy that Ultra Gauge. Are you still using it? are you happy with the product?

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why, when your cellphone can do the same thing now a days, via a BLUETOOTH adapter and the #1 APP

bluetooth-elm327-obd2-obdii-android-app-t565511.html

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Qashqai wrote:So Nick, I am planning to buy that Ultra Gauge. Are you still using it? are you happy with the product?
I am now the owner of his Rogue :). The gauge has been swapped into a Titian and he still uses it. I dont think hes run into any problems with it. IS there anything specific youre looking into monitoring and how often would you use it? The problem with having lcd's in the extreme cold is that the screens can crack and wearing gloves makes it a little difficult to work with. But with a simple lcd screen like that, you dont have to worry as much. If you arent seriously concerned about monitoring your systems all the time(such as when youre towing a lot of weight or think something might be wrong) and have a smart phone then the $20 bluetooth obdll module is the way to go for sure.

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ImStricken wrote:why, when your cellphone can do the same thing now a days, via a BLUETOOTH adapter and the #1 APP

bluetooth-elm327-obd2-obdii-android-app-t565511.html
Because most of those devices are android only....I know I can't be the only one with an iPhone. I found one on eBay that said it was for the iPhone, but who knows. I even posted a reply in the thread for the bluetooth OBD ii thingy....no replies. I ended up not chancing it because it looked like it may not actually work for iPhones.

For $60, the ultragauge is actually looking pretty decent. I like the idea of having a stand alone unit plugged into the OBD port that can give real time data and information. I must say, I LOOOOOVE being able to have as many things rolled into my iPhone as possible, but given the alternatives for an iPhone I think this is not a bad choice.

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Leo2005 wrote:Very cool toy and I have the same features plus some different ones like 0-60mi or 0-100km 1/4mi etc throw elm327 bluetooth adapter that I bought on ebay for $20 and simple soft on my android system. Also compatible w/ iphone and blueberry.
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I haven't found any that were compatible to BOTH android and iOS platforms. And I assume by blueberry you meant BlackBerry? :biggrin:

Has anyone actually used an iPhone with one of these with any success? I am curious, because I am running an iPhone myself.

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I have a stupid blackberry ImStricken, I am not sure these bluetooth ones can work with blackberries.

Actually all I want to see is the battery voltage and the temperature of the engine coolant.

I know it sounds stupid but I have a theory about the block heater.

An electrical kettle in a kitchen heats/boils the water (until it reaches to a certain temperature) and turns itself off. That is straight forward, I can understand.

In my car, I have a 400W block heater element, connected to the coolant system. It "heats" the coolant. My concern is, the coolant is not circulating in the engine and the element (without a thermostat) is heating the same portion of the coolant for four or five hours. Normally when the car engine is running, the coolant will get to extreme temperatures, but cooled down by the radiator and it circulates.

Will it detoriate the coolant? In Japan, I am sure engineers didn't develop the blue coolant for a 400W element heating it.

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Qashqai wrote:I have a stupid blackberry ImStricken, I am not sure these bluetooth ones can work with blackberries.
oh ok.
In my car, I have a 400W block heater element, connected to the coolant system. It "heats" the coolant. My concern is, the coolant is not circulating in the engine and the element (without a thermostat) is heating the same portion of the coolant for four or five hours. Normally when the car engine is running, the coolant will get to extreme temperatures, but cooled down by the radiator and it circulates. Will it deteriorate the coolant? In Japan, I am sure engineers didn't develop the blue coolant for a 400W element heating it.
ok, maybe it will take 25% of life away.(i pulled a percentage out of the air, just to play it safe.) but honestly? i doubt it will. but to be safe, change your coolant every 50,000miles with quality stuff, and you are fine. i think the positives outweigh any negatives.

if you dont use your heater: you can freeze your coolant, and destroy your engine. = MAJOR repair costs. compared to replacing your coolant a tad more often.
i would LOVE to have a block heater, just never got around to it.

why dont you buy this: (extension cord timer) and program it for 4hours before you get up
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Black B15 wrote: I haven't found any that were compatible to BOTH android and iOS platforms. And I assume by blueberry you meant BlackBerry? :biggrin:

Has anyone actually used an iPhone with one of these with any success? I am curious, because I am running an iPhone myself.
This one might work. Although the description doesn't list the iPhone, I did find it has MAC-OS drivers on the disc (I picked one up in November).
NEWEST Smallest ELM327 Bluetooth V1.5 OBD2 OBDII Auto Diagnostic Scanner Adapter http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEWEST-Smallest ... 2ec2240c4e

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GUYS, the only device that works with OBD, and Apple products is the KIWI($119): http://www.plxdevices.com/

NOTE: Apple purposely locked out anyone who didnt pay them money, from being able to access their proprietary bluetooth system. (hence why the kiwi system is so damn expensive. its not for the super great software(free app) nor is the obd connector anything special = its the ridiculous cost from apple being passed down onto you!) Now, dont get me wrong, im not a socialist who thinks everything should be free; but Apple can kiss my @ss, with their money grabbing BS. in a world where tons of things are bluetooth, apple thinks its smart to go the "pay to play" route? really!? talk about screwing over loyal iphone customers from being able to use their phones to connect to their favorite accessories! :bs:

Android on the other hand, didn't lock out anyone. their bluetooth is open & free for any and every device to connect to their phones. android seems to be doing just fine, if not better- without the miniscule money grabbing BS that apple is pulling to try and stay afloat, with their now antiquated phones. for that reason alone, i bought a samsung galaxy s2 4 months ago, switching from my old blackberry(never bought any apple products, and never will. i used my blackberry for 2 years without fail, and when my upgrade came around, i avoided iphone completely).

apple can suck it! i cruise around in my rogue, and use my ELM Bluetooth device to stream live-feed data from my car.

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ImStricken wrote:GUYS, the only device that works with OBD, and Apple products is the KIWI($119): http://www.plxdevices.com/
Which is why this stand alone unit for $60 isn't looking too bad. I am not going to get a different phone, at least not for another year or so, so the OP's recommendation is pretty good for me.


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