Quick question about lug nuts....

[Glyph]

I'm kind of in the market for new wheels but due to budget constraints I'm limited at this time to used sets. I guess I've got two questions.

1) When looking at what's available I've noticed on a lot of them that the hole where the lug nut goes seems a lot smaller than on my oem's. In fact they look too small for my lugs to even fit, much less get a socket in there as well to tighten them. Can anyone shed any light on this?

2) Which lug nut pattern do I want for my s13 4x100 or 4x114? Will a universal 4 lug always work?

Thanks

[naed240sx]

1.) Get splinedrive lugnuts

2.) 4x114.3 or universal 4 lug fits.

[94_240sx]

Lug nut size for your car is 12 X 1.25...

[C-Kwik]

Without being able to be specific about the wheel in question, most aftermarket wheels have smaller holes to fit the socket. OE wheels tend ot have relatively large openings. A thin-walled deep socket usually does the trick. Companies like Gorilla make them, but might not be easy to find. Spark plug sockets of the size you need usually work just as well. I tend to like the ones with a hex shape to the rear that you can use another socket on so that shops can use it on my wheels instead of trying to stuff some of the fatter impact sockets into the holes.

[Glyph]

Thanks for all your help guys. I understand now.I have the opportunity to pick up four 17" Tenzo Passion rims (pictured below) for just $60 for all of them.

1) What info would I need to determine whether they'd work on my stock s13 vert? How about if I plan on lowering it a hair in the future?

2) Do you think they'd look good on my red vert?

3) The down side is that two of them have to be repaired. They're dented from a pothole. Any idea how much something like that is? Can they even be repaired? Is it cost prohibitive? You can see the dings in the 4th pic below. It's the two wheels on the left.

4) What size tires would you recommend I get for them should I purchase them?

Sorry for all the questions. It's just that I'm kind of a noob when it comes to this stuff. Thanks again everyone.

[EazyBreazy]

dude offsets and width are mandatory if you want us to tell you how they will fit

[naed240sx]

Ehh, no need for him to list sizes. I can tell that those are your typical universal 4 lug, 17x7 +40 plus or minus 5.

Answers to your questions"

1.) Yes, they will fit, as long as you run normal tire sizes.

2.) They will look terrible

3.) They can be repaired, but repairing cheap wheels is a waste of money

4.) 215/45s.

Cliffs: Don't get them.

[Glyph]

God, now I'm so confused . Why would those look terrible? I think they're pretty nice looking. Is it the color? The style? And as far as repairing cheap wheels goes...What constitutes cheap? They have a m.s.r.p. of $870 + shipping without tires. Is that cheap? I know there are plenty that cost more but still...I was just told I might be able to have them fixed for $65 a wheel that means I could get a $900 set of wheels for under $200. That's a good deal in my book. It's the "looking terrible" that's now got me concerned. Is that just one person's opinion or do I have bad taste in wheels? Anyone else want to chime in with your opinion(s)? I'd really appreciate it as I'm sure this deal won't last too long. Thanks for all the input so far. Whether it's what I wanted to hear or not, I DO appreciate it.

[crzycav86]

the wheels might be really sunken into the fenders, which looks bad. this is due to a wheel's narrow width and high positive offset. if those wheels are in fact 17x7 +40, they will be sunken into the fender(thus have bad fitment).

I think those wheels look great for $60(they also have a pretty decent lip). If they end up not looking that good on your car, you can always resell them for a profit... $60 wheels are affordable.

See what info you can get about the size and offset, and report back. It should say the size on the back of the rim on the mounting surface.

[whiterps13]

The rims will look terrible since they will be extremely sunken in from your fenders. Heres an example of two differant sets of wheels on my car.

17x7 +42

17x8.5+25

See the differance in the fitment?

[Glyph]

Okay, for whatever it's worth the wheels are 17x7 with a +42 offset. In regards to how flush they sit with the fender edge, isn't that what spacers are used for? Or no?

[whiterps13]

Yes, but 7 inch wide wheels that are flush just look rediculous on 240's.

But again, its your car and your money so do what you want.

[naed240sx]

Okay, for whatever it's worth the wheels are 17x7 with a +42 offset. In regards to how flush they sit with the fender edge, isn't that what spacers are used for? Or no?

Yes, people use spacers to make wheels sit more flush. However, the correct way to go about things is to BUY WHEELS THAT FIT GOOD.

[whiterps13]

Yes, people use spacers to make wheels sit more flush. However, the correct way to go about things is to BUY WHEELS THAT FIT GOOD.

Wow, what a concept.

[Glyph]

I'm sorry for being such a noob at this but I am obviously missing something here. I understand the concept of something fitting well but I guess I don't really. What part of 17x7 with a +42 offset doesn't fit my car? 17x7 seems like a very popular and available size. Isn't it? Stocks are 15's, I've seen 16's stated as being the "best" size to get, most seem to have 17's and many have 18's as well. lol. Is it the offset? It doesn't look "extreme" to me. I like the look of a bit of lip on the wheel as opposed to them being flush with the outside edge. I'm sorry if I appear dense but if someone could try to explain it to me I'd appreciate it. Thanks

[naed240sx]

I'm sorry for being such a noob at this but I am obviously missing something here. I understand the concept of something fitting well but I guess I don't really. What part of 17x7 with a +42 offset doesn't fit my car? 17x7 seems like a very popular and available size. Isn't it? Stocks are 15's, I've seen 16's stated as being the "best" size to get, most seem to have 17's and many have 18's as well. lol. Is it the offset? It doesn't look "extreme" to me. I like the look of a bit of lip on the wheel as opposed to them being flush with the outside edge. I'm sorry if I appear dense but if someone could try to explain it to me I'd appreciate it. Thanks

You really aren't listening very well, and you have not done your homework.

17x7+42 WILL Fit. It will just look very very bad, because the wheel will not line up with the fender. The wheels will look "sunken" into the wheel wells. When we say "flush", we mean how flush the wheel sits with the fender lip.

Your wheels have what we like to call "cheater lip". The spokes curve back from the mounting pad to give the wheel lip, although center of the wheel is still very close rim lip, as opposed to being behind it as is the case with wheels with low offset and a lip. Wheels with cheater lip look like crap.

17x7 is popular because it is what everybody runs on hondas. It is not a good fitment for nissans. 7" width is also hardly an improvement over the stock wheels.

[skylndrftr]

those dents look pretty gnarly, definitely have them repaired by a pro, might not even be worth it once you get those two fixed