Quick Offset Question

[thenillaz]

Whats a flush offset for an 8inch wide wheel on an s13? Maybe between +30 and +35? Verify plz.

[574-240sx]

most people say its around +20 ti +25. It also depends how much you are lowered.

[thenillaz]

Well to be more specific, here are the wheels I'm planing on getting. They ASA AR2s(machined AR1s) and I'm thinking of getting the 18x8 +40. The offsets suck, but the wheels are awesome, so if I get a 20mm spacer they will be +20s.

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels...ccent

The car is an s13 hatch. The drop will not be rediculous. With the 18s fitted I'm looking to drop to the point were the wheel well evenly outlines the tires, so depending on how much gap there is with 18s and maybe a 40 or 35 profile tire there will be an even gap all around. Not really in the market or desire for a pull/roll w/e.

So what would be best? A 20mm and 15mm spacer to make it +25f and +20r? I think s13s need to have a wider stance in back to be flush right?

Also, if I decide to get the Silver AR1s they come in a 18x8 +35 so I could get smaller spacers to be safer. There is an issue of saftey with spacers right? Or only to a certain degree?

[adrianfromthecastle]

+10 slammed w/ a good roll is perfect. No pull necessary.

[thenillaz]

Well in my mediocre researching I've only found 25mm H&R spacers and +10 seems pretty wide. I do not want to pull or roll my fenders, if anything I'd buy super wide wheels and mold on some bolt on fenders. Slamming isnt what I'm into nor will I ever slam my car(because its teh ghey). Nice try though... I guess. Maybe your were sarcastic?

I mean, you kinda missed every guideline to my specifications. lol
Modified by thenillaz at 1:00 PM 3/25/2007

[adrianfromthecastle]

so lemme get this straight, you want flush, but you don't wanna roll your fenders... then its not going to happen then, unless you wanna have a 2inch gap from fender to wheel so that everytime you hit a bump you don't rub. Nick, aka 574-240sx will tell you the same.

Anyways, take my advice or leave it, for an 8 inch wide on whatever hieght, you're gonna want +10. Here's an example of +10 on 8 inch zerothread?id=228901

anything higher than +15 on an 8" I dont consider flush on an s13.

btw, 574-240sx rents out fender rollers if you interested.

[thenillaz]

Well if it means pushing the wheels in 5mm so I don't have to go out and spend more time and money looking to roll my fenders, on top of the wheels, tires, spacers, 5 lug hubs, as well as Z brakes since I might as well throw those on since I'm gunna 5 lug it(possibly take the entire setup from a Z), then maybe I'm not exactly looking for perfect flushness. Hell, I'm not even quite sure what rolling fenders means. All I see is some crack head device that pushes a wheel against the fender, as well as "oh ****, my fender colapsed, how do I push it back into shape". It doesn't sound like fun or something I'd really be interested in(unless its necessary I guess). Maybe I'm ignorant, inform me plz.

Point is, I just want these wheels to look look on my car, they have big offsets, what spacers should I be looking at? Would I need a slightly bigger spacer for the rear? Whats a roll? I know I should just go to a tire shop and test fit and then say kthnx bye, but I don't have the time and have a forum to post questions on instead.

BTW thanks for the +10 pic, those look good(minus the fact that they are 16s). Thats what I'm looking for, but WTF is a roll anyways? Maybe I should figure out what a roll actually is. Does 574 live in our area? Im in SoCal too.

[adrianfromthecastle]

well if you go to your car and feel the inside of the rear fenders right around the lip, you'll feel the sharp horizontal edge. Rolling your fenders is basically flattening it so that that edge won't shread up your tires. It wont make a visual difference toward your car, its just basically allowing your fenders to hold a lower offset without sacrificing your tires or hearing your tires rub everytime you make a turn or hit a bump.

pulling on the otherhand is rolling your fenders with an additional "pull" which I assume you don't want. Here's an example of a pull.

with an 8" width and +10 offset, pulling is definitly not necessary.

As far as Nick living in socal, no... but if your interested, I know a few people that do actually have the tool or I could at least point you in the right direction to where you can get it professionally done so that you dont have to worry about your fenders looking like sh*t.

[thenillaz]

Ah, awesome. I was thinking WTF is this guy talking about, why can't I have teh flushness without [what I now know is pulling] rolling my fenders. Then I started thinking maybe I don't know everything(gee). lol. So yeah, I see what you mean. I especially like the look of the tires slightly sticking out from the body on a head on angle. Sexy. So is +10 all around gunna give me that? Or do I want something slightly thinner at the front since it seems the back hubs are a little staggered than the front(I assume thats why people buy 8in front 9in back, but I want to rotate my tires...)? Thanks for the info, and I'll try to get a hold of you later on once I'm in the market for a roll. Thanks alot.

[whiterps13]

Wait, why are you converting to 5 lug if youre going to run an 18x8 +40 with spacers? Not only can you get better sizes than that in 4 lug, but you can get just about any wheel with great fitment if you do still want to convert to 5 lug.

The whole point of the conversion is to get wheel sizes that actually work on s-chassis'.

[thenillaz]

ORLY! Wow, the whole time I thought putting wheels on a car was a sense of fasion and expression. Gee, wtf was I thinking... /angrysarcasm

Actually, let me say this. Find me some ASA AR1s, or similar priced, similar designed wheels in a better fitment in 4 lug, and maybe I'll consider it. See, my point is I like these wheels, and no, I don't like gheyazz black polished lip wheels or meshies because they are ghetto, so I'm sorta limited as to 4 lug choices. Plus, Either the same time or shortly there after I will be getting Z32 brakes(like I stated before), so why not grab the hubs as well and get what I want?

Modified by thenillaz at 8:27 PM 3/25/2007
Modified by thenillaz at 8:28 PM 3/25/2007

[adrianfromthecastle]

zerothread?id=229012

[thenillaz]

Find me some ASA AR1s, or similar priced, similar designed wheels in a better fitment in 4 lug... Plus, Either the same time or shortly there after I will be getting Z32 brakes(like I stated before), so why not grab the hubs as well and get what I want?

That link wasnt useful...

I know you guys are trying to be helpful, and I hope I'm not sounding like a sarcastic *******, but their just arent a wheel in 4 lug I would go with. Fact is, there are no 18x8 or 18x8.5 +10 or +25 split spoke wheels in 4 lug. Even then, I'm very picky about the design and the AR1s look extremely nice. Yeah, maybe +40 is crappy fitment, thats what spacers are for. Plus, I've decided to go with the +35 silver ones which are cheaper anyways.
Modified by thenillaz at 2:37 PM 3/26/2007