Questions on how to drift correctly

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clutch Kick drifter
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Ive got a 1992 240sx with blacktop SR20det so its ready to drift almost. I dont have a LSD is this going to make it to where i cant drift at all? Also what upgrades would anyone out there recomend for a drift setup 240sx. Thanks

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WTBs14
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alright if you do not have a lsd you can still drift but i recommend getting one. If you want to upgrade stuff first a LSD. Then start on the suspension

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ETTInnov04
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There is a forum for drifting specifically, at the top of the list with the multimedia forum... you should try there.

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start open diff ( no lsd ), once you can drift with an open diff well... move to a lsd and you'll be better than most who started right away with an lsd.

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Go out and see if you can do anything, especially try feeling how the car moves in rain where you can go slower. But yes any type of lsd will be a vast improvement over an open diff. With an sr20 already you don't have any worries in the power department, I'd suggest lsd and then suspension or a bucket seat.

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takklz wrote:start open diff ( no lsd ), once you can drift with an open diff well... move to a lsd and you'll be better than most who started right away with an lsd.
i disagree, i started that way, its more of a disadvantage than anything else. Get a welded diff if you cant get anything else, like 50bux, best 50bux ive spent. having skills with an open diff doesn't translate to crap other than you can drift your friends cars who dont have a diff. get a diff, welded, whatever you can asap. bucket seat should be next thing too. Then suspension. Should have been engine last. your car isn't almost drift ready if all you have is a different engine.

clutch Kick drifter
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Yeah ive already got suspension just not coilovers im going to get the TEIN drift setuup suspension

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to answer the question more from the other thread. a welded differential welds the spider gears so they dont allow the wheels to move at different speeds while cornering. it makes parking and slow speed turning a pain. i wouldnt reccomend it for a daily driven car.

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i dunno, i drive it daily, it makes a little noise and a little hop, but otherwise doesn't hurt anything, i dont understand why people say that its not good for daily driving. i would recommend it unless your are a jerk while driving, when you hit it in the rain, you will slide, otherwise i dont mind.

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well you don't need and a lsd to start, and welding a diff IMO, is really not a good thing to do, i have seen ppl bracke the weldes on it and fock up the diff, and you will got throught tires more quickly and just driving normal, so just got out and try open diff then go to the next step and get a vlsd or something better

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214kka-et240sx wrote:well you don't need and a lsd to start, and welding a diff IMO, is really not a good thing to do, i have seen ppl bracke the weldes on it and fock up the diff, and you will got throught tires more quickly and just driving normal, so just got out and try open diff then go to the next step and get a vlsd or something better
for those who dont drift, yes, you dont need lsd, you dont need welded diff, it does it tires, and they could break. If you are just trying to slide around for ****s and giggles, then yeah, you dont need any kind of locked rear end. If you think you are drifting well on an open diff, then fine, keep it.

For those who actually want to drift somewhat seriously, welding leaves an cheap alternative to a real lsd and the disadvantages aren't as bad as people make them out to be, but the advantages greatly outweigh the bad. I have never seen anyone break a welded diff, i have drifted with 3 personally, and i know of more people with them. If you are drifting, you are eating tires anyways,and its not like you're going to notice the accelerated rate that you are eating them at, so what does it matter. Open diff sucks, i thought it was cool when i had it, but then you find out that its just a ridiculous disadvantage and doesn't contribute to learning how to drift ultimately. You get used to sliding, but that doesn't mean you can't do that on a lsd/welded, its much better to get used to a locked rear end to start with. There isn't any advantage to keeping an open diff other than saving money. If you are worried about breaking a welded diff, buy an extra and weld that a keep the spare open at home just in case, thats what i did, 100 bux maximum to buy a spare and weld it. Worth every penny.

cliff notes: IMO welding a diff is only for those who want to drift and can't afford a real lsd. It's a great thing to do if you are serious about it. I mean people run some crazy stiff coilovers that hurt your back and kidneys but a little chirp when you turn is something to be afraid of? Give me a break.

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first get an LSD then go to a track

then have an instructor sit with you

boom skill then drink a beer

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There are tons of folks that drift with open diffs, and pull it off correctly. Welding a diff is coo, its ghetto, but hell, it works, right? Think about this statement.

If you start off drifting with crap parts, you can only get better when you start upgrading.

I personally think its tried and true. and personally, i would have stuck with the KA before upping the power. Welded diff, stiff chassis, open lot/area to practice. Track time is always good, but nothing compares to street.

To answer your question about welded diffs, its pretty simple. The stock open diff balances out power accordingly. by welding up the spidergears/pinions, equal power will be distributed to both wheels, 100% of the time. That means your cornering will be slightly be altered. And if you wanna try to weld it yourself, remove the main ringgear off the diff, and weld the corners of the pinions (where the gears meet up) and make sure it pierces the metal, and welds solid.

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Thanks everyone for helping


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