Question:Why do people have to have name brand wheels?

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mrgrape
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I see theses wheels called drag dr-1 im pretty sure that are pretty much the EXACT replica of work emotion CR KAI.

Now these are 400 for all 4 compares to the cr kais which are about 1400 for all 4.

Why do people have to have authentic wheels? When u can get the same one for so much cheaper just cuz its not "Work"


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you gotta be jdm dogg. i mean what if you get pulled over? you cant tell the cop you have knock off rims i mean s***

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The difference in price is in relation to the wheels durability and weight, which are better due to different methods of manufacturing. http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/index.php

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mrgrape wrote:I see theses wheels called drag dr-1 im pretty sure that are pretty much the EXACT replica of work emotion CR KAI.

Now these are 400 for all 4 compares to the cr kais which are about 1400 for all 4.

Why do people have to have authentic wheels? When u can get the same one for so much cheaper just cuz its not "Work"
wow... get ready to be flamed dude. its not just about the name. its about quality. i used to think the same thing about everything. my brother would come home with $100 t shirt and $200 jeans. and theres no doubt they feel great on and stay looking good after washes. now i agree thats still ridicoulous but its the same with the rims. how can you expect a $100 rim to be worth anything? im not saying go out and buy works or volks. but at least get a decent set. not some f***ing knock off piece of s***

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...edded

This is why Rays is the s***...look for a vid of how your $400 set is made. `

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^^ WTF? Dude, you have Rotas!

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because you wont get laid

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StandardProspect wrote:^^ WTF? Dude, you have Rotas!
I do to, just trying to keep people from making the rota mistake i did lol. I want to sell them back and get lmgt4's but i am dumping too much money in my suspension/engine. Mine are still in the boxes though, i may just resell them before they even get installed. I was hasty in my wheel-buying decision, and should have just saved up the extra money, cause after seeing pics like the one i posted above, im actually scared to go slide my car around too fast in case one of my wheels decides to rip in pieces. I just want to keep everyone else from getting cheap a** wheels and losing money when you decide to upgrade them later. Just get the right ones the first time.

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^ That wasn't directed at you at all. You're actually being helpful. That guys saying don't buy knockoff s***, it sucks, and his car has rotas. lol

I think you should keep your rotas. They will look good on your car cause you have coils. Just don't get a lift kit like that guys white hatch and you'll be fine.

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I would run Rotas and Sportmaxes without a second thought.

You guys just see a few pictures of broken wheels and think everyone ends up with them. Not true.

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although CF wheels are tight to look at, I would be afraid that they would break from a hard launch or heavy braking

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:I would run Rotas and Sportmaxes without a second thought.

You guys just see a few pictures of broken wheels and think everyone ends up with them. Not true.
Thats a good point, only one or three pics of broken wheels out of the thousands of pairs they've sold isn't bad, i just don't like thinking about how expensive it would be to fix all my brakes and new set of wheels if i was one of those unlucky bastards. And to top it off ive never seen a pic of a work or rays that were like that....idk...just rambling...ill probably be ok though everything is replaceable.

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mrgrape wrote:I see theses wheels called drag dr-1 im pretty sure that are pretty much the EXACT replica of work emotion CR KAI.
if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it has to be a duck!

Wrong!

Try reading up on material science in engineering. Than you'll answer your own question and many others, and see why.

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Simply you get what you pay for. If you get good name brand wheels, you can get back good amount of money when you opt to sell later.

And correct knock-off wheels of "Work Emotion Cr-KAI's" would probably be "Rota Torque"

I got 17's Work Rezax I (got some curb rash few times, and these wheels are hard as a rock) their 3 pieces also.

And just got a set of 18's Work Emotion Cr's, will test fit them and see how they are, if it needs a fender pull or not.

And Work Cr's are bad a$$ wheels.

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It all depends on what your intentions are. Are you going to compete in your car? Or is your car going to just be a street queen? I see the track maybe once or twice at the most in a year. Therefore I don't feel a need to spend $2k on a set of wheels. Most people here will just say go with name brand because so and so said so or because it ballerific to do so. I'm all for name brand too, but I'm not going to pay $1500 more just to save a few pounds and have so and so drool that much more over my car.

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I believe its quality and weight.

Ive never seen a rim get ripped apart by torque so i dont judge Rotas or XxRs. IF they look good and your car is a daily rock them, and rock them hard.

But when you have a car that pushes really high horsepower maybe the difference in quality becomes evident.

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Both of those pictures were taken after the driver slammed into a curb at excessive speeds. That will not happen to you unless you crash your car.

I have Rotas and I love them. They look great and they came in the sizes I wanted. No sense buying 1000+ dollar wheels that I'm going to mess up at the track.

Sure if I drove a show car I would get some legit wheels, but I actually drive my car. I can put the money I save elsewhere to make the car handle better, faster, etc.

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The main thing is what your using your car for. If your tracking, it is not a good idea to be using cheap wheels such as Rotas because their not built to withstand racing. That's why people go with light weight, name brand wheels in the first place.

If your driving around town, cheap wheels are fine.

LOL at the dude whos rocking Rotas and going against them

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i rock smoprmaxxes, i saved money for the motor swap, i could care less about what brand rims,

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I LIKE my Rotas.

Still going to be getting different wheels soon, but due to needing 18's.


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Brand name wheels = JDM 5 star hard park status

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R&D.

With the original, you're paying for their time, money, and energy coming up with the idea and testing it. You also generally get better customer service and support.

With a copy, you're paying for the materials, which may or may not be better quality.

That's why originals cost more.

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Some people like to buy real shoes, bags, tools, food, sunglasses, sports equipment.

Others like to buy the generic version.

Sometimes you would never feel the difference. Sometimes you will.

Some people buy real wheels becauseA. They have the money to do soB. They want to impress peopleC. They want to feel safeD. They believe in the better qualityE. There isn't a generic alternative

Some people buy generic wheels becauseA. They don't have the money to buy real onesB. They want to build a car as fast as possibleC. They just don't careD. They are out to prove a pointE. They are clueless

buy whatever you want.It SHOULD be somewhat COMMON SENSE to understand that a real company puts in research and development as well as QUALITY CONTROL. These are good things. These rae things you're going to pay for.

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Mr.Harte you hit the nail on the head

You cant argue with other peoples belief's and personal preferences. It has alot to do with how someone was raised and what kind of enviroment they were brought up in. I have very strong feelings on they way i believe things should be done and i have learned over time that when somebody does something that doesnt make any sense, really there's no reason to ask why. thats just how that person does things.

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I think that more often than not, people do NOT think about how dangerous a car can be. You can easily die in a car crash. I think it is important to consider this when you are about to buy a part for it.

I've had a tension rod come apart while driving on the freeway. Let me tell you, it is NOT fun at all. I was very lucky to not crash.

If somebody wants to buy a generic wheel for their car, then go for it, but THINK about it beforehand. Imagine how it would feel to have a wheel break on the freeway. It's going to be dangerous. Is the cheaper price worth it?

Some people will say yes. Some will say no. It's all up to YOU.

These are the things I like to think about when I buy car parts. generic wheels, suspension parts, brakes, steering wheel, etc. are NOT worth it to be.

Something like an exhaust or test pipe is different. The generic one will probably work fine and won't be a lifeline for your car.

So there, that's just a little expansion on the "safety" facet of the whole topic.

ENJOY the car life!

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placham wrote:Simply you get what you pay for.


I mean, im pretty sure there has to be a reason why they are cheaper...and my guess would be the quality of the wheels.

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wow.... what a stupid thread. and so many stupid comments to follow.

nobody HAS to have real wheels. people prefer them for a few reasons:

- they are typically reinforced with better materials and construction, and they are usually lighter on top of that.

- they almost ALWAYS come in better sizes/offsets, with much better lip and/or concave

I rock some sportmaxes and I love them, and a lot of people have complimented me on my car, so f*ck haters. i could care less what they think.

if you are just trying to get some rollers to look good until you can afford something better or really put your plans in motion, then buy some replica wheels and make it look good. it's all about how you put different things together to give your car a scheme, a flow, and character.

do your research, find out what is important to you in a car, and buy whatever wheels fit your needs and wants. even if that means waiting a few months to come up with some more cash.

/ pointless thread

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BrianHarte wrote:Sometimes you would never feel the difference. Sometimes you will.

Some people buy real wheels becauseA. They have the money to do so TRUEB. They want to impress people FALSE C. They want to feel safe NOT REALLY D. They believe in the better quality SURE E. There isn't a generic alternative TRUE

Some people buy generic wheels becauseA. They don't have the money to buy real ones MOSTLY TRUE B. They want to build a car as fast as possible FALSE C. They just don't care YOURE AN IDIOTD. They are out to prove a point YOURE A FOOLE. They are clueless YOU THINK YOURE PRETTY RAD EH?

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dude, i think you speak for only yourself and a few other douchebags out there when you say that people buy wheels to impress others. if you're not building your car for yourself, then you need to GTFO and get a new hobby because at that point you're just a fanboy.

buying replica wheels is not a bad alternative for a lot of reasons and this has been covered a thousand times. for some reason, there are always people on the opposite extremes flaming back and forth about pointless s***.

i CARE about my car, i am not trying to "build" as fast as I can and I am not out to prove any point to anyone other than to myself that I am proud of my car because I built it how I like it and noone can say s*** to me. especially not a dumbass egotripper like yourself. all you ever have to say is negative s*** to people.

oh, and yes... i'm clueless for buying some 002s. too bad they look amazing, they are light as hell, and they come on some of the best sizes for a stock body s13 out there, not to mention they save money on tires. I'll let you know when they snap into pieces....

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sportmax's, rota's....

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These kinds of threads are always incredibly frustrating. Really, if you don't think it's a big deal to buy knock-off wheels, then go for it. I'm sure 90% of the time you won't break a wheel like those pictures shown previously. However, keep the following in mind:

1. People will always give you crap about it, and it's somewhat justified. Buying knockoff wheels really hurts the industry that you claim to love so much. It's an industry that was founded on the innovation and quality of the products created by these "big brand names" that you so despise. Really, this industry wouldn't even exist without the hard work they've put behind their products. Rota doesn't innovate, it imitates.

2. The amount of R&D that goes into a set of Rotas or any other knockoff brand probably amounts to the same amount of time that Rays or Work or Enkei puts into just designing the appearance of a set of their wheels. The quality control and testing that these big companies do on their wheels is incredible, and you can't even begin to expect this kind of attention to detail from a knockoff wheel company. It was mentioned before that if you take a look at some stuff on Material Science, you'll begin to appreciate this kind of stuff. Making a wheel isn't as simple as many people believe, it definitely isn't as simple as making say, a shift knob or a strut bar. There's a lot of science behind these things, and you'll obviously pay more for a product that has the science to back it up versus a company that doesn't.

I'm not really trying to criticize anyone who doesn't share the same views as me, but if it comes off that way I'm sorry. But really if you take a more thought out approach to buying things like wheels then you'd realize why some wheels are more expensive and why others are cheap. If it was as easy as buying cheap wheels then I'm sure companies like Rays and Work wouldn't exist anymore.


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