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Aeonixz
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Hi guys had a quick question on whats a better option a auto tt or manual na.
ty in advance


z.Leinbach
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I'd say NA manual, which is what I have I love it. But I want zzzututu... The auto TT's are way down tuned as to not kill the trans

diplomat 1
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Personally I don't like auto TT cars would rather get a na and use the money saved toward a TT motor.

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nexus08
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I have to say that is an odd question.

It would depend on what you are looking for.

I have an auto NA, and do not like the transmission at all. It shifts as if it thinks I'm trying to run a 0 to 60 test every time I take off (i.e., it doesn't want to shift until somewhere between 4 and 5,000 rpm). I can force it to shift most of the time by letting up on the gas a tad.

If I had to do it over again I'd of gotten a manual. FTR, I have driven manuals most of my life. When I got this car, I was looking to try something different.

javadave
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I agree with nexus, I also have an auto NA. My daily driver is a stick and thats what I was looking for in a Z because of the known issues with the autos. The only reason I bought mine was the 3" thick stack of service records that came with it which included a rebuilt transmission less than 30k miles prior to my buying the car. Besides if you ever want to upgrade that to a TT, or should I say WHEN, it'd be better to have stick in there already. Though my trans was rebuilt about 40k ago or so, it is already starting to give me small slipping issues. Now I'm on the hunt for parts to convert it ;)
nexus08 wrote: I have an auto NA, and do not like the transmission at all. It shifts as if it thinks I'm trying to run a 0 to 60 test every time I take off (i.e., it doesn't want to shift until somewhere between 4 and 5,000 rpm). I can force it to shift most of the time by letting up on the gas a tad.

If I had to do it over again I'd of gotten a manual. FTR, I have driven manuals most of my life. When I got this car, I was looking to try something different.
--> nexus, when I first got mine it had those same shifting issues. I ran codes, did trans diagnostics, replaced fluid and filter, tested the tps for dead spots, and checked connectors, no improvement. Believe it or not, after cleaning the years of buildup off of the throttle plates the shifting smoothed out a great deal. Can't explain why, but if you haven't already, I'd give it a try.

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MrFeesLaw
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Manual all the way. The Auto trans is de-tuned for the turbo model, and the auto trans holds a lot less power than the manual (which, in case you didn't know, is the same trans out of the r32 and r33 skyline). So if you are looking to modify a car to make a lot of power, then don't bother with the auto, because you will end up having to remove it for the manual as soon as you modify anything.

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MrFeesLaw wrote:Manual all the way. The Auto trans is de-tuned for the turbo model, and the auto trans holds a lot less power than the manual (which, in case you didn't know, is the same trans out of the r32 and r33 skyline). So if you are looking to modify a car to make a lot of power, then don't bother with the auto, because you will end up having to remove it for the manual as soon as you modify anything.

This is not entirely true, the auto is a pretty strong trans, but like any auto that is older with a lot of miles it will have issues. Is it the best option for the TT Z, no, but that is a personal preference That being said an auto can out shift a manual any day. There are also a lot of upgrades for the auto that can make it shift quicker, have a higher stall for quicker 1/4 mile times. Same mods, same HP, same everything between a manual and an auto, the auto will always win in a straight line. Mountain runs, thats a toss up.

TT autos are not detuned so to speak, yes they have 20 hp less, but that is to keep the rpm's in the optimal range so there is not any lag between shifts. If I remember right the auto does have a quicker 1/4 mile time than the manual, or just a hair slower.

So, to the original post. What are you looking for in the car? How good are you at driving manual? How much traffic are you going to sit in? Drive both, you will enjoy the manual better, but its hard to just say one is better than the other.

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MrFeesLaw
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nissanfreak12 wrote:
MrFeesLaw wrote:Manual all the way. The Auto trans is de-tuned for the turbo model, and the auto trans holds a lot less power than the manual (which, in case you didn't know, is the same trans out of the r32 and r33 skyline). So if you are looking to modify a car to make a lot of power, then don't bother with the auto, because you will end up having to remove it for the manual as soon as you modify anything.

This is not entirely true, the auto is a pretty strong trans, but like any auto that is older with a lot of miles it will have issues. Is it the best option for the TT Z, no, but that is a personal preference That being said an auto can out shift a manual any day. There are also a lot of upgrades for the auto that can make it shift quicker, have a higher stall for quicker 1/4 mile times. Same mods, same HP, same everything between a manual and an auto, the auto will always win in a straight line. Mountain runs, thats a toss up.

TT autos are not detuned so to speak, yes they have 20 hp less, but that is to keep the rpm's in the optimal range so there is not any lag between shifts. If I remember right the auto does have a quicker 1/4 mile time than the manual, or just a hair slower.

So, to the original post. What are you looking for in the car? How good are you at driving manual? How much traffic are you going to sit in? Drive both, you will enjoy the manual better, but its hard to just say one is better than the other.
On most older model cars, the auto actually is less efficient than the manuals, and don't use the power as well. Most people think that new "Automatics" are better on gas than new "manuals", but the problem is, that many new "Automatics" are not actually auto transmissions. They are electronically shifted manuals. This is why the new "autos" are more efficient and shift faster, is that they are actually still using a clutch. It is just electronically controlled. There is no torque converter, or trans cooler.

Many older cars make more wheel hp and torque as well as getting better mpg with a manual, because there are less moving parts and that means less power loss. the manual makes 20 more hp and 18 more tq at the wheel as well as getting 2 more mpg and being way more fun to drive. Could you make the auto shift faster? yes. But the money you spend on that could get you a new flywheel, clutch, and J-spec syncronizers allowing you to hold 1000+hp on that trans. Vs. the upgraded auto being able to hold about 450. Ive heard tons of complaints about the auto if you hit 400 or better hp without upgrading the trans. The manual, however, can supposedly hold 800hp stock. And with J-spec syncros the trans really becomes race-ready. They even recommend you keep the stock 5 speed trans if you are doing a Chevy LS or other v8 swap, because the manual z32 trans is stronger than most v8 transmissions.

Nissanfreak12 is right though. It will all depend on how good you are with the shifter. You will have more power, and probably a better 1/4 mile time if you can shift as well as whoever was driving when they got the 1/4 mile numbers for nissans specs. If you can't drive a manual very well, you won't be gaining anything unless you increase your skill level.


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