Question on Nismo R-tune camshafts?

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hello not sure how this really works , but i had a question on these nismo r-tune cams i just got a s-tune suspension and s-tune sway bars .. on my 04 350 but , the question is if i install or have them installed (camshafts)would i need anything else ? Or could i just remove the stock ones and but the after market ones??


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im pretty sure thats it maby if u wanna change gaskets and u need lubracant and a tube of silicone. and the r tune keeps with ur warenty if its not up but the s tune voids it

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yea i think its the r-tune that voids it but ill give it a try . thanks for the input , i did some homework on the cams and it said no ecu on engnie modifacation was needed so i'm thinking is just remove and replace ...

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R-Tune = Voided WarantyS-Tune= Covered under Waranty

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u sure maby i got my tunes mixed up

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so basicly i can replace my stock cams with r-tune ones .... with out messing with anything else??

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Yes im SureTo make is simpleR = RaceS= Street (Covered under warranty)
R350Zz33 wrote:u sure maby i got my tunes mixed up
As far as a cam install, You will def want to throw the car on a dyno and make sure everything is running smooth. Every Cam job i did on other cars required Retune

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Good info. I have been looking at the JWT cams, but there have been some issues with them, and ECU tuning.

This makes me a little happier.

Here's the set of R-Tune cams for $1087.

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but only on the nismo cams you dont need to do anything on the ecu or any other adjustments ..... right

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would those cams work on all VQ35DE engines? i have a 2008 Nissan Altima coupe V6 with the VQ35DE in it. also, what does it mean by "non-rev-up"? also i heard your idle will be a little more rough. it wont be like those old school muscle cars that pretty much die if you don't give them gas right? around what RPM would it idle at? would it idle something like when your engine is cold in the morning?

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yea why not its a vq .. well according to what ive read , its like the same thing with the nismo suspension you just replace the stoke and your good to go its says no alignment required but i would assume youd get one just to play it save but not sure on the ilde, well sense its aftermarket your would get a little rougher idle.... the place i saw the nismo cams for z33s and altimas is on leeparts.com but theres a bunch of other sites, this one is alright , out of all the sites ive been this one is the least expensive..for nismo parts

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Cams are very expensive to install on these cars making the hp gains small and expensive. There is no point in doing cams if your not going to tune the car which requires an ECU tuning slution. Naturally aspirated mods on this car are not worth the investment.

If you do cams anyway then doing a set of JWT springs and retainers is a must. That would add about another $700 to the cost for the springs/retainers/labor.

Cams are not a first mod.

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JETPILOT wrote:would those cams work on all VQ35DE engines? i have a 2008 Nissan Altima coupe V6 with the VQ35DE in it. also, what does it mean by "non-rev-up"? also i heard your idle will be a little more rough. it wont be like those old school muscle cars that pretty much die if you don't give them gas right? around what RPM would it idle at? would it idle something like when your engine is cold in the morning?
On a rev-up motor there is variable valve timing on the intake and exhaust side.

On a non-rev-up motor there is only variable valve timing on the intake side.

There is also some differences in the intake manifold.

Whenever you do a cam swap, and you are going more aggressive you will pretty much always have to put stronger retainers and valve springs in. You could put the cams in there by themselves, but if you wanted in the be a reliable install you will want the retainers and springs. Labor is also ridiculously expensive for a job like this. I would say if you bought a set of NISMO cams, with valve springs and retainers, and then got someone to put all that in. It would be in excess of three grand, thats unless you get the hookup for parts and labor.

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adding to all this, head work is expensive - i looked into this a few months back. To make it worth it you should just buy stage 2 or 3 cams from BC or JWT. A must is to get the matching springs, retainers, and mine as well get valves why your at it. Since your going to be getting the head cleaned up, mine as well have it opened up +1 and go with bigger valves. After all the point of a head build with bigger cams is to keep the valves open longer allowing more air into the motor. If your going to do it, i suggest doing it right the first time, so there is no need to pay for your heads to be built multiple times.

(Give or take a few)Cams - $900+Valves - $400+springs/retainers- $200+gaskets- $150+studs- $150-$400port/polish- $200-$500 +machine charge. assembly fee should be includedtune (must)- $450+ for dyno tuneECU- $1000+

And thats what 20-50 N/A hp costs.I would have already done mine but the machine shop in my factory doesn't have the equipment to do head work.... we make drivetrain parts mostly.

IMO nismo is over priced. Probably because you keep the warranty.


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