question on 5-lug swap s13

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toledo240
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im sick off looking for wheels that i want but only are carried in 5 lug. I hear you guys always doing these swaps from a z32.i have done my front brake swap and im not really worried about the rears.can i swap to 5-lug s14 rear without changing my brakes on my s13? i mean aren't they the same?I know spindles and balljoints need to be changed in the front but what about the back if its just the hub?


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i think you should be able to.

crzycav86
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All you need for the rear is the hub assembly.

If you're asking if the s13 and s14 SE rotors are the same, no they're not. Just get your s13 rotors redrilled. It's probably cheaper anyways.

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SmithSR
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Get 95-96 SE rotors. Later models are marginally larger in diameter.

I hadn't tried 240sx SE rear hubs.

I just used '95 NA 300zx rear hubs and bearing... new parts because, the car is old, and we had a very VERY bad left front bearing. One less thing to worry about in the long run if you change the bearings out now, instead of later.

Save yourself some grief if you want, and get the attain fronts(alan SPL has them in stock) they are a bolt-on affair and with new SE rotors, you'll be sittin pretty.

toledo240
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anyone else have their opinion. anyone used s14 rear hubs

toledo240
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what is needed for the front from an s14

BuudWeizErr
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wth?

i have 5 lug S14 rear rotors on my car.

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Dori Dori
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Yeah, all s-chassis rear brakes were the same...89-98; abs or not.

EDIT: This applies to all US cars...sorry.
Modified by Dori Dori at 8:56 PM 9/28/2004

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This is for all USDM 240sx

This is the minimum u need to swap the rear:2 - Rear 5 lug Hubs (95-96 SE, all 97-98 240sx)2 - 5 lug Rotors (Redrill old ones or same as ^)

PPL Get confused because of:1) You must press out the old wheel bearing and press them back into the new hub.(which can be done @ a machine shop press)

1.1) Some ppl buy new wheel bearings which also must be pressed in or ppl get used 5lug hubs where the wheel bearing are already together which makes it easier to swap.

toledo240
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what about z32 hubs for the rear would i need the spindles off a z32?If i could should i get the bearing in place

BuudWeizErr
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I've covered all this crap before.

http://www.sillbeer.com/5lugswap.php

toledo240
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so your saying i can't use z32 hubs for the front even if i had the s14 spindle on the s13?On top of that i can't use the z32tt hubs for front or rear? only n/a will bolt up in the rear?didn't sport compact go through a whole process to get the tt to line up?

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toledo240 wrote:so your saying i can't use z32 hubs for the front even if i had the s14 spindle on the s13?On top of that i can't use the z32tt hubs for front or rear? only n/a will bolt up in the rear?didn't sport compact go through a whole process to get the tt to line up?
thats exactly what i'm saying.http://www.sportcompactcarweb....ilvia/They don't explicitly say that they used Z32TT hubs, only the Z32TT uprights and brakes. I have my suspicions that they actually pulled those parts off of a Z32NA, because the hubs on the TT/NA have different spline sizes (IIRC, TT is thicker) on the axles, so there is no way you can bolt a TT hub onto an S13 axle, but you can put an NA hub on.

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SmithSR
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z32 TT vs. N/A rear hubs are different, TT having much larger shaft and therefore, much larger spline. We ordered from Nissan and at first they shipped us TT hubs, which would NOT fit the N/A bearing, and are so much larger than the N/A as well as 180sx/J30 shaft that even without holding the parts up side by side, you can tell the shaft splines won't fit the TT hub. Putting the 240sx shaft into the TT hub is akin to throwing a hotdog down a hallway!

for rear use the NA Z32 hubs, NA Z32 bearing and SE 5lug rotor. Done!


toledo240
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ok now thats cleared up, can i use the n/a hub on the front with the s14 spindle

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SmithSR
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Get ATTAINS from Alan at SPL

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SmithSR wrote:Get ATTAINS from Alan at SPL
yeah, attains rock.

don't get GTO, i've heard of two people now who had the splines strip on their GTO hubs, and I LOVE my Attain hubs.

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Dori Dori
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toledo240 wrote:ok now thats cleared up, can i use the n/a hub on the front with the s14 spindle
NO!

The only Z32 hub that can be used is the n/a rear hub...that's it.

For the fronts you'll either need a conversion hub, s14 spindle (any) and 5 lug hub, or S15 spindle and five lug hub. When swapping the spindle, you'll also need to change your ball joints on the LCA to s14 ball joints. Lastly, the nuts and bolts for the s14/s15 struts are 14mm (IIRC) while the s13 is 12mm, so you'll either have to have collars machined (to use the old bolts, look here http://forums.freshalloy.com/u...ESSID= ) or get the s14/s15 nuts and bolts and bore out the holes on your lower strut mounts to 14mm.

For the rears, you can use an n/a z32 hub, s14 hub, and s15 hub all on the stock knuckles. I'd recommend saving yourself some time/energy and purchasing them w/ the bearing already pressed in.

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theres this j30 and this lady wants to get ri of it so i told her id tow it from her for free!!hahaha for free...newayz would i be able to get a 5 lug conv. outta that...front and back? also..will the vlsd fit into a 91 240 fastback w/o having to buy new parts?? any help will be apprecitedsam

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pickin it up tomorrow...mwah hahahahaha

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You won't be able to get a 5-lug conversion from it.

you will be able to use the vlsd though... possibly the brakes too.

I hope you didn't pay too much for it, you might not get your money's worth.


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