Question for D2 Coilover owners.

[BuudWeizErr]

I have a question about the D2 coilovers for S13 that I bought and would like to hear from other people who have them. I have the fronts lowered to where I want them, but the rears... they seem to have bottomed out and the ride is very high. There is at least a half inch from the top of my tire (205/55/16 on S14 SE's) to the bottom of my rear fender and this is with -1 degree of camber in the back. I took the rears off, undid the lowest 'perch' and screwed the lower casing up as far as I could. And thats as low as I could get the rears. Am I doing something wrong?I thought they were supposed to go from 0-4" height drop. But the rears are only 1" or so below normal.

Anybody have any ideas/experience?

I know AceInHole has these, think you could help me out?

[Def]

If these are the type where you can adjust ride height independent of damper travel(i.e. the lower mount screws up as on the shock body), then you can just lower the actual lower spring perch and then lower the car more that way.

The first way you lowered the car is superior because you retain shock travel that keeps you from bottoming out. Lowering the car via moving the spring perch directly affects shock travel, which can lead to bottoming out if you don't have enough travel for the forces the suspension will be trying to soak up.

[BuudWeizErr]

You're kidding me.

So when I jack the car up, the springs won't even be held in place by the upper and lower perches?

Is it like this on most coilovers or just these?

[VitaminT]

I have heard the same. I am running a similar setup with my S13 (with 5lug sway and S14SE rims). I can imagine that I am going to run into the same thing because mine are at about 1" and they are pretty far in the lower mounts.

Like the other dude said the only solution is to lower the spring perch and limit shock travel. The fronts on the other hand seem to be fine. Kind of funny because the S14 owner complain about not being able to keep the rear HIGH enough.

[Exar-Kun]

Im only going to say one thing:"you get what you pay for"

and leave it at that.-chet

[MaineExport]

Well,

I got what I paid for. $600 got me coilovers that are, from all appearences, just as high quality as any I've seen before. Time will tell how well they hold up.... but so far the performance is better than expected. Yes... the s14 rear won't adjust as high as stock... but lucky for most people looking for coilovers... we don't want a stock ride heigth.

I'll pay half price any damn day of the week! Especially knowing that I didn't pay for a name....... **cough::Tein::cough** on the side of a product that 99.9% of the average consumers couldn't tell apart from the next company's product.

[180fan]

Exar I'm with you on this one. Almost always you'll get what you paid for. Like those guys who ran the OBX short shifter and complained about it breaking on them and so on. 600 is a great price on a coilover system, but I'm still going to hold my reservations on them until more people have run them for a while and the problems that arise with them.

[Dystopia]

my friend has these and the maine gripe he has is that the product isnt allowing the camber that he needs for the sidewall he is running. though wih my coils i am abel to reach around -9deg of camber if i want. the product was worth 600 vetter than a spring strut combo imo

[Def]

If you have really short springs, then yes they can become loose at full droop. It is a common thing on most coilovers I've seen that are run really low(track use, not talking show kar here). Heck, it even happens on some "normal" springs for BMWs.

The only solutions are to get a tender spring that compresses under load and serves to keep a small amount of tension on the main spring, or to get a longer set of springs with the same springrate.

Just curious, but what length springs do you have?

[MaineExport]

Exar I'm with you on this one. Almost always you'll get what you paid for.

I agree with you guys as well,

I'm just saying that for $600 the trade off is WELL worth it. So far durability is the only factor that I can't speak of about the D2's. For my purposes the D2's perform and fit perfectly. Visually they appear to be constructed very well. So, that being said... I guess even if the shocks only last a year or two... I can get them rebuilt for damn near free. So, I have a dozen or so rebuilds ahead before I'd ever have spent as much cash as a set of Tein's or JIC's would have cost me.

[Doogz]

Exactly, i couldn't afford coilovers and was about to buy some ST springs and AGX's....now look what i've got for basically the same price.

[j-z]

i definately got my moneys worth on these coilovers. it was worth every damn penny i spent (no bull s***). the more and more i drive my car the more and more i love them. besides the rear design being a little funky, i have had zero problems. the quality on these things is ridiculous. i was looking at some full coilovers on jspec.com and i found some buddy club coils for $1500! wtf.. looking at them, they dont look anywhere as good of quality as the d2s. and they were 15 way adjustable opposed to the d2s 36 for more dial in. im one satisfied mutha fuka

[180fan]

Well the adjustability doesn't mean quality. Take for example Zeal coilovers only have 6 settings for dampening but yet you can find them on almost all teams running in JGTC. Features alone isn't going to make your coilovers long lasting, it's the build quality, quality of the parts, and also whether or not the user knows how to set them up and adjust them. Too many settings becomes a headache after a while and just how often are you going to be adjusting those settings? Dunno that's just my take on the situation but I think 32 way adjustable, as good as it sounds sounds like a little much and I still question their build quality but maybe seeing is believing eh?

[MaineExport]

Nobody is twisting your arm to get them.... you have the freedom of choice... use it.

It's pretty easy to find reviews on the product now... seeing as a hundred or so people have either recevied them already, or have a set coming soon. Read the reviews and decide it they fit your needs or not.

(180fan, this part is NOT directed towards you... just a general statement) If you have no interest in buying them, and you've never had your hands on a set or installed one... perhapse you shouldn't add your irrelivant opinion about them.

[BuudWeizErr]

Thanks guys, I appreciate my thread getting jacked.

It just appears to me that these are like Tein HE/JIC FLT-A2 in front, and like Tein HA's in the back.

[MaineExport]

Sorry Bud

[j-z]

i never said adjustablilty equals quality or makes them longer lasting than others, so i dont know where you pulled that from. too many settings only becomes a headache for those that dont know how to use them. also, the d2 build quality is outstanding. and another thing just so were on the same page, the d2s are 36 way adjustable.

[Project_rps13]

okay back to the point of the thread i got mine in on sunday and i love it, we cant say they're not long lasting cause no one (i think) has had them for a long period of time yet, i have a s13 running on doughnuts or blacks whatever you want to call them and i have no tire gap. and i can take turns like a mad man now, so imo i got more then i expected for $600