Check with http://www.infinitipartsusa.com
Might want to read Q45tech's posts where he ways rear polyurethane link bushings bend the suspension tabs.
Q45 swaybar
Re: (maxnix)
so, it does more harm than good? i'm just intersted on improving the handling since i'll be fixing my front end in 2-3 months, i am looking into some reasonable ideas and ways while under it. max, how much do you think will it cost? any estimates on yours?
thanks for the reply.
thanks for the reply.
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Re: (ponzy)
About $90 for the bar from PopPop, $40 for the rubber from Joe, or even the polyurethane bushings Energy Suspension and rubber end links (for tuning) from Joe.
Re: (maxnix)
max, q45tech suggests from his previous posts that with re: to 1994 q45 standard with 29 mm FSB: ......ifever installing a rear sway bar (20 mm) for a q45 standard you gonna have to downgrade the existing 29 mm FSB to 28 mm FSB (found in 1994 q45a / q45t) , since there are no existing 22mm RSB.
In the case of small diameter rear sway bars, the name is probably a misnomer since an EXTRA 40 pounds per inch of resistance tacked on to 123 lbs per inch SPRINGS is only 1/3 stiffer.Instead of a max of 4" of rear body roll the same G force would still roll the rear 3" with rigid bushings and 3.3" with rubber ones.What the factory does is change the existing front sway bar to a smaller size 29>28mm which increases the front sway by 13%/2 or 6.5% reducing the tire slip angle [load] on the front by roughly half that amount.The rear has less weight on the tires [they are not being overloaded like the front] so the rear bar increases the rear load by some amount and the smaller front bar decreases the front load.
The ideal situation is for all 4 tires to have the same load [weight pushing down adjusted for the differences in static weight distribution.
The Q unlike most cars has an agressive camber curve control which attempts to keep the tires [the tread part] perpendicular no matter how much the body rolls.With this taken care off by the upper links one can concentrate on balancing the load induced by turning [not really trying to minimize sway per se].
The front sway bar [is so big] to reduce the traction on the front tires making the Q progressively increase its understeer.
Wish there was another common name for sway bars which better described what we are trying to do!
In the case of small diameter rear sway bars, the name is probably a misnomer since an EXTRA 40 pounds per inch of resistance tacked on to 123 lbs per inch SPRINGS is only 1/3 stiffer.Instead of a max of 4" of rear body roll the same G force would still roll the rear 3" with rigid bushings and 3.3" with rubber ones.What the factory does is change the existing front sway bar to a smaller size 29>28mm which increases the front sway by 13%/2 or 6.5% reducing the tire slip angle [load] on the front by roughly half that amount.The rear has less weight on the tires [they are not being overloaded like the front] so the rear bar increases the rear load by some amount and the smaller front bar decreases the front load.
The ideal situation is for all 4 tires to have the same load [weight pushing down adjusted for the differences in static weight distribution.
The Q unlike most cars has an agressive camber curve control which attempts to keep the tires [the tread part] perpendicular no matter how much the body rolls.With this taken care off by the upper links one can concentrate on balancing the load induced by turning [not really trying to minimize sway per se].
The front sway bar [is so big] to reduce the traction on the front tires making the Q progressively increase its understeer.
Wish there was another common name for sway bars which better described what we are trying to do!
Re: (ponzy)
seems noone interested on these sway bars, anyway i've been lookin' for RSB/FSB, 20/28mm respectively, and found it on http://www.car-parts.com for $109 shipped for both of them(from whitey's wrecking located in WA). just in case anyone from here is interested.