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I've been toying with the idea of producing some performance parts for the Q's out there. They would be made by me and Aries in-house. What sort of items would you guys like to see?

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Blower kit! :-)

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A blower kit would be nice......

What kind of stuff would you be willing to make??? Like suspension parts, or mainly only drivetrain stuff....... Because Id like some different suspension parts......

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A blower or turbo kit would be nice.

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Not much could be made that would significantly increase HP and would be cost-effective.

A 94-96 CAI would be my first choice, with a ram-air box that attaches behind the lower grille area.

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Maybe they could design a 6speed....... :drooling

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I second the motion for a 6-speed. It would really wake the Q up without having to do much to increase power.

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And after they spend $20 grand to design a 6 speed, bell housing, pressure plate, flywheel, and clutch how many people will buy it? It would be more cost effective to go with AZs idea for a CAI with a nice sealed box, or maybe even a nice bolt on rear section for the exhaust, not like the Stillen but somethin with 2 pipes to kinda keep it factory lookn but a lil sportier.

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They wouldnt have to completely design a 6 speed.... they could find a heavy duty one and just mod it for the Q......

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supercharger or turbo kit

front strut tower brace that fits (damn stillen one barely fits)

rear strut tower brace, not exactly, but replace the flimsy metal piece that sits to the rear of the gas tank with a solid piece that bolts in stock locations

lightweight hood, maybe vented because it's so hot under the hood

custom bellhousing and whatever else is needed to adapt 300zx 5-speed to VH45

a cold air intake is very doable option 1: make a MAF adapter (is there a currently made one that fits?) and run piping through a hole where the airbox is (plenty of room to drill a 4" hole) and put a cone filter behind the fog light *note: the JWT pop-charger's adapter uses a filter with a 6" opening, so adapting it into a CAI is more complicated option 2: drill same hole where airbox sits, make a box that utilizes the stock air filter and lid, but has a pipe running from the bottom into a ram air scoop of some kind

lightweight stock sized pulleys, properly balanced

if you need a test car i would happily drive down and let you use mine.

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carbon fiber hood.

Turbo or SC.

Making ANY manual transmission fit doesnt have to be a 6'er, I would buy for 4k ( I know probablky too low) Still...

Fred..:)

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Nismo:

How about we put together a FSTB package for the Q? I'll provide you with my custom-made "feet' so you can copy them. Then we can pick up the adjustable bars really cheap.

I think most Q owners would spend $50-$75 for a FSTB that FITS.

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Also: Hood vents made of a heat-resistant material, in a kit that you can install easily with some light cutting.

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I like to carbon fiber hod idea, with a cold air intake grille (like the Subaru), right above the filter box.

A bold on Nitrous kit.

A supercharger kit.

A turbocharger kit.

A drop-in 454 Chevy kit. (Q454 sounds kinda cool!)

6 Speed would be cool (Q45 6mt would look good on the rear, as well)

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I like the hood vents...... It woudl really help keep things cool...... Although, I open the hood after im done driving every time anyway........

The FSTB would be good also..... Would you guys just buy a bunch of the maxima bars and then modify the feet??? I talked to a stilllen guy about the maxima bars, and said that the maxima bars arent designed to handle the weight of the Q, and that I need to get the stillen one (big surprise)......

Id pay the $50 for the bar ready to bolt in.......

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I have had the Maxima bar on my car, for 35,000 miles. I don't autocross, but I have seen a GREAT iimprovement in street handling. IMO, you could buy 3 Maxima bars at $20.00 each, and replace them, if you ever have a problem.

Sorry to hyjack the thread.

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elwesso wrote:I talked to a stilllen guy about the maxima bars, and said that the maxima bars arent designed to handle the weight of the Q, and that I need to get the stillen one (big surprise)......


The "Stillen Guy" is an assmonkey.

I have slung Quella around like nobody's bidness with the FSTB that we came up with and it's SOOO perfect for the car.

Besides, the Stillen bar fits like CRAP - ask Dennis and Fred.

And FYI, it's made by someone else, just like all of Steve Millen's other stuff.

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Ok guys... thanks for the ideas. I can tell you now that the 6-speed custom gearbox is a bit out of my league LOL, this isn't Holinger. However I can devise a way to fit a 300Z gearbox.

Some things I'm thinking about:1. The cold-air intakes (full piping system, no OEM crap)2. Front strut bar and a rear bar (thinking solid 3-point in the front)3. Underhood Shiny Peices (Battery Tie-Downs, Caps, etc.)4. Computer ROM Tune (Would be tuned by me, on our dyno)5. Manual gearbox retrofitting (300Z Box)

Some questions:

1. Filter... K&N good enough for you guys? If not I'd suggest the Apexi dry filter. The K&N filters and flows worse than the Apexi but it's cleanable, and cheaper.

2. Strut bars... do you want more looks or more performance? Solid or adjustable? Multi-point or the typical across the engine?

Now this would be for the first round to gauge what sort of market we are working with. Designing a turbo kit for the Q would be awesome but if we sell 2 a year then it's not really a viable investment. Same with the supercharger kits. Not saying they are out of the question, more or less saying I'm not familiar with the amount of interest outside of the 10 or so people that posted.

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AZhitman wrote:Besides, the Stillen bar fits like CRAP - ask Dennis and Fred.


friendly disagreement.Actualy teh Stillen bar fits my current Q very well.It appears that early bars were made a fit a off a Q w/ old mototr mounts hence the poor fit (rubbing against plenum).The current ones seem to fit.Tight but no rubbing (my car has brand new motor mounts).And the Q <is> kinda heavy compared to a MAx

Fred...:)

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Nismo_Freak wrote:However I can devise a way to fit a 300Z gearbox.
tell us more.I might be on board if the installed price stays at or under 4k.At or under 3k the "might" turns into a "where do I send my deposit?".

Fred..:)

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my fitment issue with the stillen fstb has nothing to do with the plenum, it's got plenty of clearance there. my problem is the bar is not long enough. i have the adjustment end almost at the end of the threads and i have to pull on it to get the bolt in. the stillen bar either needs to be longer, adjustable on both sides or have a longer adjustable end.

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Id love the Z gearbox...... If its below 3000, Ill go for it........ Plus, it could be rebuilt cheap, since manual trannys are much more simple....... Hopefully you guys might get it done before my current transmission goes..... I am banking on another 10-15k on what Ive got....... Ive had the car since feb, and i have driven under 3000........

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Ok, the gearbox mod will be another primary lead then.

No promises, but I think 3k is a bit too much but then again depends solely on the price of the custom parts.

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So your saying it will be cheaper than 3k?? Or you wont be able to keep it under 3k......?

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that would be awesome...A Q with a Manual transmission

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The gearing on the Z trans would not be best for the Q.

I was thinking more like a T56 Tremec with the ratios like the Z06 Corvette. This unit would be strong enough and it is relatively cheap.

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You'd also gain, what, 3-12 whp with a manual with lightweight driveshaft from driveline loss

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Yeah so I would probably be on board for most if not all of the mods mentioned. I KNOW that others would be too. Plus, 2 (superchargers) a year isn't good but 30 right off the bat pays for itself ;)

As for the CAI, I do recall some techs recommending against the K & N Filter. Is there any way to use the stock filter in the CAI? Just curious.

Thanks for even considering all this. I cannot even imagine how nice it would be to have a place where one can buy serious mods for your Q. :)

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Sijoko, the T56 transmission is not the best IMO. Your taking a transmission built for a ~6400 rpm redline and adapting it to fit a Q45 w/ quick rear end gearing and a higher redline.

With the swap you will need to keep in mind the fact that everyone will not want to have ultra quick ratios. The longer ratios will aid in giving the Q traction as well as excellent driveability and fuel economy.

Another aspect is that the flywheel and clutch need to be custom built to fit. Most manufacturers build clutches for the 300Z, but not all make T56 clutches.

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90Q45blue wrote:Yeah so I would probably be on board for most if not all of the mods mentioned. I KNOW that others would be too. Plus, 2 (superchargers) a year isn't good but 30 right off the bat pays for itself ;)

As for the CAI, I do recall some techs recommending against the K & N Filter. Is there any way to use the stock filter in the CAI? Just curious.

Thanks for even considering all this. I cannot even imagine how nice it would be to have a place where one can buy serious mods for your Q. :)

Nick


Like I said, the forced induction kits would be something that we can look into.

About the K&N, it flows decently, is cleanable, and has better than average filtering. However the Apex'i unit is superior to it in both flow and filtration. Also note that cleaning the K&N can lead to gunking up the MAF and/or TB if you over oil the element and don't allow it to fully dry-out.

Concerning the CAI design. Alot of the restriction is found in the actual stock piping itself being designed to deaden the induction system's sound. In order to effectively do that they have to create bends and bottle-necks in the piping, which are restrictive on the top end.


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