Q brake job

[qship96]

Went to get front rotors machined today to cure slight warping and decided to have new factory pads put on since it has been 55,678 miles since they were last changed-old pads still had 5 MM left on them all around and wore evenly-considering new pads start at 9.5mm,these would have lasted 93,000 miles-unbelievable! I noticed the small pin boot was missing when the tech removed the wheel-how urgent is it to have this replaced? do they sell this separatly?

[maxnix]

I always have the shim kit available just in case. Amazing f___ u__ from the dealer on installation of pads.

Watch carefully!

[qship96]

I had a new shim kit installed on the previous pad replacment,and shims were still in good condition this time-the shim kit does not include the pin boots,which should be replaced periodically since they are rubber and exposed-are these pin boots available in any factory kit?

[Q451990]

I'm pretty sure you have to buy the brake caliper rebuild kit... I did this years ago. Hopefully Joe still stocks them?

Heath

[DrewQ45]

Went to get front rotors machined today to cure slight warping and decided to have new factory pads put on since it has been 55,678 miles since they were last changed-old pads still had 5 MM left on them all around and wore evenly-considering new pads start at 9.5mm,these would have lasted 93,000 miles-unbelievable! I noticed the small pin boot was missing when the tech removed the wheel-how urgent is it to have this replaced? do they sell this separatly?

The pins are actually slide pins and the boots are important. They seal in the lubricant for the pins. Without the boot, the caliper won't grip and release properly resulting in brake wear and overheating.... probably why your rotors warped in the first place.

[3Q Jay]

qship- if you've never done the caliper rebuild in your 200k, then of course you already know we're going to recommend that you do. p/n of the kit is 41120-64u25, and yes IoS does stock them.

now, if you only want those boots, the p/n is 41131-64u00 (pin-boot). in principle you should be able to get just those--but it might actually take longer.

question for you: does your 96 have the pad wear sensor? my black 95 (11/94 build) does not---now of course that could be from some hack's attempt to disable the message indicator, but the strange thing is that the whole harness is missing, not just the sensor. wondering if this is the original condition.....

[qship96]

Jay,my 96 has mechanical wear sensor clips on 2 of the 4 padsper axle,electric wear system dropped in 95{ double check with Brian}-I ordered pin boots from parts america-$8.00 delivered in a few days-no local parts store had them!Calipers have never been rebuilt,and based on pads wearing evenly,didnt think it was needed yet

[Rex]

question for you: does your 96 have the pad wear sensor? my black 95 (11/94 build) does not---now of course that could be from some hack's attempt to disable the message indicator, but the strange thing is that the whole harness is missing, not just the sensor. wondering if this is the original condition.....

94 was supposedly the last MY to have the sensors. My 94 had them, neither 95 does . I like them.

[AlabamaDan]

The pins are actually slide pins and the boots are important. They seal in the lubricant for the pins. Without the boot, the caliper won't grip and release properly resulting in brake wear and overheating.... probably why your rotors warped in the first place.

Yeah! What Drew said. That back caliper won't last long without proper lubrication and then you'll have problems with your rotors in just a few 1000 miles. Common problem. I can't believe it wasn't there. Probably fell off when the tech turned his head or something.

[maxnix]

..electric (electronic) wear system dropped in 95{ double check with Brian}-

Early 1995 were meant to have them, but never verified by me. Both of mine are mid and late production run.

[maxitech]

Where can the caliper rebuild kits be found? I need one for a 1st gen and can't find a site that sells them for the life of me...

[3Q Jay]

my post above has p/n for kit. 1-888-216-5328.

[3Q Jay]

Early 1995 were meant to have them, but never verified by me. Both of mine are mid and late production run.

hmmmm, so i take it you don't have the electric sensors then?

[maxnix]

hmmmm, so i take it you don't have the electric sensors then?

No, and no llamp in the dash daignostics.

[qship96]

Followup=I replaced all 4 front pin boots today,the bottom long boots in the caliper looked fine until I pulled them from caliper,found them deteriorated and chewed up upon removal,and the top short one that was still there was ok=moral of story is get the 8 dollar pinboot kit before you redo your brakes and change them,even if they look ok externally

[DrewQ45]

Followup=I replaced all 4 front pin boots today,the bottom long boots in the caliper looked fine until I pulled them from caliper,found them deteriorated and chewed up upon removal,and the top short one that was still there was ok=moral of story is get the 8 dollar pinboot kit before you redo your brakes and change them,even if they look ok externally

You also want to get caliper grease and grease the slide pins each time a brake job is done. They come in clear packets similar in size to ketchup but with green or red gease inside.

[qship96]

Done! I think the grease for the slidepins is different from the grease for the pads/shims/clips though=I used a rubber grease for pins and a different type for the other bits

[Jesda]

Do a search for a thread by Ozzie. He took pictures of his caliper rebuild.

[maxitech]

qship- if you've never done the caliper rebuild in your 200k, then of course you already know we're going to recommend that you do. p/n of the kit is 41120-64u25, and yes IoS does stock them.

now, if you only want those boots, the p/n is 41131-64u00 (pin-boot). in principle you should be able to get just those--but it might actually take longer.

question for you: does your 96 have the pad wear sensor? my black 95 (11/94 build) does not---now of course that could be from some hack's attempt to disable the message indicator, but the strange thing is that the whole harness is missing, not just the sensor. wondering if this is the original condition.....

The part number listed is for 94 and 95-96 Q45's. I need them for a 92 model year...Are the 94's the same or do you have a different part number for 1992?