Put in a transmission cooler the other day, with mix result

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NismoChi
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As we all know, one of the weak spot of the J is the transmission, w/ no external tranny oil cooler, the oil run thtough the radiator and back to the tanny, since the radiator don't do a very good job on cooling the oil and something the passage is simply clog in the radiator, causing the short life of a many J transmissions. To prevent that to happen, a regular flush and an external cooler is recommended by many. Since my car has a little over 100k miles, i do have the usual jerk when the car shift from 1st to 2nd gear, after i drain and refill it like 3 times(w/ ~1k miles of driving in between) it usually goes away after a few miles of driving, when the tranny oil warm up. But after ~$65 and an hour of work putting the cooler in, the jerking feeling seem to be getting worse I think the cooler is just doing too good of a job, it keep the fuild from warming up. Of course the jerking is getting smaller with more distance, but i can still feel it in a longer period of time compare to no cooler. What can i say, at least i know the cooler is working and the tranny is going to last longer. A trade off, i guess. Droping the pan and replacing the filter would be next. Anyway here are a few pics


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Its very possible the trans isnt heating up as fast as it used to...

One of the Q guys had the same thing and they replaced the temp sensor and it worked really nicely.

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Interesting, soldering a resistor inline to fool the TCU. After looking into the FSM, the pin(#33) they use for the temp sensor is the same on the J and the Q, i'll go do a resistance test with the sensor in the car. Again, Thanks

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I used the two pin(33 & 35) on the TCU harness to test the resistance og the fluid temp sensor, and the resitance came to 0.6 k ohm (it was taken in the morning, have not driven the car for a least 10hrs) , according to the FSM the valve should be 2.5k ohm - 0.3k ohm, from cold to hot, with the 0.6k ohm from the test, i'm pretty sure that i need a new temp sensor, but for now, i am going to put in a inline resistor like the Q45 guy, and hope it would fix it. Now the question is, i went to radioshacks trying to get a 1.5k ohm resistor, but there are 1/4 watt, 1/2 watt, and 1 watt resistor to choose from. I ask the guy that work there and he said it is important to know what watt do i need and said if i put iin a wrong watt resistor, i will blow something up, either the sensor, TCU or something else. Now can anyone tell me which one should i get, the 1/4 watt, 1/2 watt, or the 1watt resistor? Help, please.

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NismoChi,

From what I remember from Electronics course.

You need to measure the voltage on the resistor and then calculate now much wattage it has on it with a formula: W = U^2/R where ^2 is the power of 2. U voltage on the resistor and R the Ohms. Then just multiply it by factor of 10 just to be on the safe side and then take a standard value close to the calculated. Like 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2 watts. This should be the value for you. Hope this will help
NismoChi wrote:I used the two pin(33 & 35) on the TCU harness to test the resistance og the fluid temp sensor, and the resitance came to 0.6 k ohm (it was taken in the morning, have not driven the car for a least 10hrs) , according to the FSM the valve should be 2.5k ohm - 0.3k ohm, from cold to hot, with the 0.6k ohm from the test, i'm pretty sure that i need a new temp sensor, but for now, i am going to put in a inline resistor like the Q45 guy, and hope it would fix it. Now the question is, i went to radioshacks trying to get a 1.5k ohm resistor, but there are 1/4 watt, 1/2 watt, and 1 watt resistor to choose from. I ask the guy that work there and he said it is important to know what watt do i need and said if i put iin a wrong watt resistor, i will blow something up, either the sensor, TCU or something else. Now can anyone tell me which one should i get, the 1/4 watt, 1/2 watt, or the 1watt resistor? Help, please.

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hey, chek this out.. its adjusting your tps.

http://forums.f31club.com/phpB...t=413

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The normal voltage range is 0.5 volts to 1.5 volts.

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driftkaztik wrote:hey, chek this out.. its adjusting your tps.

http://forums.f31club.com/phpB...t=413
Hey you know what the funny thing about your post is, i am not sure if you were asking me to try adjusting my TPS to fix the 1-2 gear shifting problem. Or you meant they are adjusting "MY" TPS in that pic. As a matter of fact, they were, that is a pic i took on my car when i was rebuilding my 88 Z31 Turbo, I post that pic a while ago to show a member (on this Forum, i think) where the TPS is located.Any, I went out again this morning to do the resistance test using a ohm meter, the resuld is telling me the Fluid temp sensor is in fact bad, so i am going to buy a 15k ohm resistor to trick the TCU. Still not sure which one to get, 1/4, 1/2, or 1 watt, can someone do the math for me, please. i am not good at that.

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Heres my math.

1.5^2/600 (.6k ohms = 600ohms) = .00375 x 10= .0375 =~.04

1/8 would be the closest.

Nismo measure the voltage between the 2 pins that you did (with ignition ON) and let me know the voltage.

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Thanks man, i'll do that but it''ll likely be tomorrow, cause the battery in my muti-meter went dead, i need to get a new one first. But the resistor value is 0.4k ohm after been sitting all night.

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nismochi... sorry didnt know, someone posted it on the m30 club and it has worked for many.

sorry for showing you your own picture!! ahha

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I installed one in my J30, but not because I had any problems. Yeah, I heard the q's trannys go out because it over heats. Honestly, I don't see a difference since the J motor and tranny isn't as big as the q.

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Is there any way to put a kind of thermostat or thermal valve inline. So the ATF only flows through the cooler when hot??

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daltonnnn wrote:I installed one in my J30, but not because I had any problems. Yeah, I heard the q's trannys go out because it over heats. Honestly, I don't see a difference since the J motor and tranny isn't as big as the q.
You wont notice a difference..... but it is doing good!
shortlid wrote:Is there any way to put a kind of thermostat or thermal valve inline. So the ATF only flows through the cooler when hot??
you cant do that because otherwise it would starve the trans for fluid.


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