Purchased a little kit. What am I gettin into....

[UncleBen]

So I finally did it. I got a little kit from mkory just for kicks. I had a fully build KA that was bored (some of it is still for sale, check my sig ) and had lots of work put into it, but I am selling it just because I didn't want it anymore (it isn't assembled, just have all the parts). I planned on either putting the bottle on my s14 or pieceing together a kit, but found one that was already together for a great price so I picked it up. Now I will tell what all it comes with, goals for it, and some questions I have....it comes with:

Garrett t3/t4 internally gateds13 SMIC w/ stock BOVs13 370cc's and fuel railSAFC II all oil linesJGS maniturboXS BOVall pipes for intercoolerdownpipe to the catwalbro pumpan autometer boost gauge I think

I think thats what the kit consists of. All the parts (save the SMIC and injectors) have less than 10k miles on them. How is that for a starter kit? Now some questions;

First of, I have an emanage with e01 that I have been saving for such an occasion. The SAFCII will be sold eventually but planned on running it at first for a lil while, just to get the kit on there as soon as I could. Or you think I should just go ahead and throw the emanage on it?

Second, what about some other parts that dont come with the kit that you may think are necessary, such as an aftermarket FPR, oil cooler (or not?) with catchcan (or not?). I planned on getting a Tial or HKS unit for an aftermarket BOV, think I should wait to get a piece like this for when I buy a frontmount? (who knows when it will be).

My goal for this car and kit are just 250rwhp or so. 12psi at the track, 8psi daily. The car gets 10w30 Mobil1 synthetic every 3500 miles. I plan on changing it in shorter intervals when its boosted; oil recommendations? And I did some research on plugs to run; think I decided on an NGK 6? That cool enough of a plug for a daily driven car that wont necessarily be babied, but wont be ragged on either....

Thanks for all the help guys.
Modified by UncleBen at 5:36 AM 7/17/2006

[Florida240sx]

No need for aftermarket fpr. Stock will be fine.Although megan racing is cheap enough... I run NGK bkr7e-11 spark plugs 2 ranges colder.The 6's should be fine though. No need for oil cooler being it isn't autocross.Would help if oyu had one. But I didn't want to factor in the risk of something else that could blow my motor. No need for catchcan. Just get a length of hose and a mini breather.Have fun boosting

[UncleBen]

Cool, thanks. That cleared some things up, I appreciate it.

[1WheelWonder]

I ran a 6range Ngk plug and it worked great, I would definetly get a aftermarket blowoff valve (tial) and set up a larger than side mount intercooler, do it know and save you some time down the road. I'd probally scratch the fpr and oil cooler idea until you feel you really need it, and i'd also stick with your 10w/30 Mobil1.

[UncleBen]

See the piping is really already laid out for a frontmount application but could be easily modified to use the smic. I just was going to hurry and get the kit on the car asap since it wasn't coming with the frontmount. I guess I should go ahead and get a frontmount now instead of later.

[Florida240sx]

Yes get the FMIC now, easier to do piping once then it is to do it twice....Also FMIC is more efficient.

[UncleBen]

Obviously the ultimate in intercoolers would be to pick up a Greddy unit, but uh, I dont want to pay more than half of what I paid for the whole kit just for an intercooler

I am very leary about ebay items, but sometimes they are good deals. So, what about those ebay IC's that come with piping already bent for an s14.....probably not worth it huh

Florida240sx, where did you buy your sparkplugs at? I get on NGK's site and find the plugs I need, but not in the application I need....in other words they say the bkr6e-11 doesn't come for the KA but obviously it does. I feel like such a damn novice and crap for asking such questions, but regardless, I Need answers
Modified by UncleBen at 5:46 AM 7/17/2006

[nismofly]

Obviously the ultimate in intercoolers would be to pick up a Greddy unit, but uh, I dont want to pay more than half of what I paid for the whole kit just for an intercooler

or you could buy an ARC, the best intercooler money can buy, and spend more on it than you did the kit

btw for oil, everybody i know with turbo runs 15W-50 mobil 1, same price as the stuff you have

[GEO]

BIG TROUBLE My FRIEND! :::

[UncleBen]

15w50? Wow.

I guess it wouldn't hurt; the pressure from the turbo and it has 111k miles on it right now haha.

You better look out GEO, i'll drive my Whitey down there and show Ole black whats up.

[1WheelWonder]

I've got an Ebay special intercooler and so does my brother and neither of us are having any issues with them.

[GEO]

15w50? WTF.. I run dyno oil 10w-30 in all seasons.

[Kenrik]

Run 15w50 if you're in a hot climate (Florida) if you're up north you can use 10w30

[nismofly]

for summer, we can use it

i dont know many people if any that use their turbo S chassis as a winter beater, everyone i know with a turbo up here during summer uses 15W-50

[1995240sxSE]

the ebay IC are fine for low boost. I accidently hit 25 psi IC handled that psi, MOTOR DIDNT! lol. I would get all different coupler clamps the supplied 1's suk

[UncleBen]

Well I'm attempting to pick up this VSPL Greddy unit from this guys SR'd car; he is making more power than the IC is supposed to hold so is selling it. If I get it the it comes with all piping, couplers, etc. Only thing is I'd have to change the hotpipe since the IC is from the SR. I hope I can get it, I'd love to have it.

What about plug wires guys, I have an MSD6AL on the car with the blaster2 coil; thought about sticking true to MSD and picking up their wires?

[1WheelWonder]

Msd wires are good, I had them for a while then switched to Aurora for no reason at all, they both performed the same. The MSD 6al and coil produce alot of spark, which is a good thing, but they do eat up some rotor buttons, or at least in my case they did.

[UncleBen]

I figured as such, but it'll be worth it I hope. The hot spark will definately not hurt anything, so even if I have to replace rotor/cap occasionally, it will run better while it runs.

[2FourTee]

I've heard lots of favorable things about the ebay FMIC's. Of course, if you asked about ebay FMIC's on another certain local forum that I know of, you'd probably get flamed.

[UncleBen]

You're s14 looks sweet. I new you had to be on 502 when I saw you were from louisville and had the same avatar as a guy on 502, then noticed your picture was hosted from there so I was like uhhh.......

MSD's site says they dont offer the pre-lengthened wires for a Nissan. f***, I'll have to get the bulk ones and cut them myself I guess....

[KATwo40]

All I can say is:

15w40 at the most (synthetics are so much better, and turbo cars don't like a wide ratio...read Corky Bell's "Maximum Boost"), but 10w30 would be ok for your setup. Remember, a Lancer EVO comes from the factory boosting 19psi with Mobil1 10w30 and all models don't have oil coolers.

Also, get a catch can. It's a positive pressure PCV system, requiring a venturi effect from the intake air velocity to scavenge the built up gases in the case. Catch can + steel wool to trap the vapors (if it's not internally baffled).

[UncleBen]

I might run an oil coiler anyway; I'm going to be doing some autox'ing with it eventually.

Thanks for all the help!! Where did you purchase your plugwires from? I think I'm going to have to purchase some MSD wire that aren't vehicle specific and cut them to size for my car since MSD doesn't offer pre-sized wires for the 240.

[KATwo40]

You won't ever see abnormal oil temps doing autoX. There was recently an entire discussion about this over on FA, where there are more track specific vehicles than here.

If you do run a cooler, you need to make sure that you use a thermostat valve, which will block off the oil cooler lines until the oil reaches a certain temp. Running oil that's too cold will result in premature oil fatigue and sludging, even when using synthetic.

In fact, there are many track cars (road course) that don't run oil coolers because they're using a deep sump pan. The pan surface gave enough surface area to adequately cool the oil.

Hope this information helps.

[UncleBen]

That does help. Its easier reading it from you that trying to read the whole thread on FA. So about those plug wires....

[KATwo40]

My wires are just stock NGK wires. They're about $100 for a set and they've held up just fine up to around 240whp for about 2 years (had about a year on them before the turbo went on). We'll see how they do on the new engine with higher power levels.

You should be able to pick them up at the local dealership, or find an import shop (primarily European and Japanese cars) that uses WorlPac for a parts supplier. They'll be able to order the NGK wires for ya'.

[2FourTee]

You're s14 looks sweet. I new you had to be on 502 when I saw you were from louisville and had the same avatar as a guy on 502, then noticed your picture was hosted from there so I was like uhhh.......

Thanks! Yeah, I'm 240 on 502ss. That wasn't available when I registered here.

I am also working on a turbo kit, similar to this one: http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10253

Except I am going to retard base timing and use an SAFC and my friend's wideband to tune it. It consists of an SSAutoCrap manifold, which I just got today and it appears to be of good quality. I'll be using a T25 and a stock SR sidemount at first, and then eventually move up to front mount, GT2871 turbo and an ECU tune with larger injectors. I've got about half my parts right now.

But I haven't mentioned a word of it on 502ss because I already know how those guys are about anything ebay or SSautochrome related

/Sorry to thread jack. Back to your regulary scheduled thread posting.

[UncleBen]

Yea man, I've heard some good things from SSA. One of my friends was supposed to give me a mad hookup on a GT2871 actually, but hasn't happened yet. I think I might run the SMIC for a while just because thats less money I gotta spend right now, but I really want that IC sittin up front ya know? But then again, the sleeper issue is tempting....my kit has the stock SR 370's and do the job perfect for my setup and I have an Emange w/ the E01 I will use to tune. I'll have an SAFCII thats black for sale soon!!! (comes with my kit, dont want it).

We'll have to run 'em when we both get going lol.

[Jookmasta]

hey do ya think that black safc 2 would work with the same wiring for the safc 1? as in just unclip the module and then clip in the safc 2 module? just wondering as i might be interested in it..............

also, for plug wires, ngk or aurora are the ones most commonly run. u'd be the first ka-t i know of to run msd wires (i think the rest of us are too lazy to cut wires or at least i know i am). and go for the fmic. the sleeper look is nice but u know u'd like to see it...........

[UncleBen]

You're right, I'd love to see that IC chillin up front

If I ran MSD wires I'd have to cut them like you say, which isn't a big deal, but I think I am just going to go with the flow and run Aurora's. They're cheaper anyway and less hassle.

As for the SAFC interchangability, I have no earthly idea. I figure there are differences with the plug-contacts, since there are differences between the two units themselves.

[2FourTee]

Yea man, I've heard some good things from SSA. One of my friends was supposed to give me a mad hookup on a GT2871 actually, but hasn't happened yet.

...I'll have an SAFCII thats black for sale soon!!! (comes with my kit, dont want it).

Let me know if you find out anything on that GT2871. Also on the SAFC!!!

I personally love the sleeper look. If I use a front mount, it will be black
Modified by 2FourTee at 10:19 AM 7/20/2006