Project results...and first kill :)

[LongIsland240]

Well, done with wyotech and hopefully back in here a little more regularly from now on. Got her all together in plenty of time, started her up and disaster strikes....my steel head gasket is pumping oil out the r/f of the engine. I'm forced to tear my brand new started twice engine apart in the middle of a chassis shop. Split the intakes, pulled the pan and timing covers, lifted the cams back out and unbolted my arp studs. No visible defects in the head or block (both of which were machined) took out the steel gasket and replaced it with a heavily copper seal sprayed stock gasket i had just in case. Got her all back together about 11:00 wed. night, just in time for a 400 mile drive from western PA to long island on friday. Drove her around real easy doing some light 1/2 to 2/3 throttle pulls to 3 then 4k, and finally to 5k. Changed the oil at around 50 miles and drove home last night. She ran awesome. Hooked up the LM1 and had wifey read off the numbers as i got into it and tuned the afc. Got a good 500 miles on her and i pushed 8psi with a/f of 11.8-12.5....still not taken to full throttle or over 5.5k. (I don't want to beat on it that bad....well ok, i do- but i have SOME restraint) Today heading north on a nice straight open road back home, i see a red s13 hatch....do some dodging and weaving and catch up to him...i see the exhaust and think ricer, but then i hear the blow off and get interested. So we ran a few times from a 40mph roll or so.....3/4 throttle, 8 psi, 120mph, he was done. At the next light he looks over and says hey is that an "SR", i say no, it's a KA....he pauses a second and looks puzzled and replies with "what size motor is that?" i said 2.4, KA24...."oh thats cool" he says (I still don't think he go it though). Oh well, i'm sure it'll be the first of many SR20 kills...lots of kids around here with more money than brains.

Have a ton of pics from the whole buildup, need to sort through them and get my friend to put them up on his server...will keep you posted.

I'm sure someone who wasn't paying attention will ask, so heres the build sheet 1 more time.

+ .020 arias pistons (8.8cr)Pauter forged billet rodsclevite bearingsnew timing parts and oil pumpPorted head, matched intakes and turbo maniARP head and main studsrace prepped block fully balanced rotating assembly24x12x3 bar and plate intercooler + modified bumper 2.5 intercooler piping throughoutt3/t4 turbo battery relocated to old rear seat locationRoll cage/harness bar installed (no door bars...yet)new electronics - LM1 and EGT

I think thats everything...

[Checkered-Member]

So we ran a few times from a 40mph roll or so.....3/4 throttle, 8 psi, 120mph, he was done. At the next light he looks over and says hey is that an "SR", i say no, it's a KA....he pauses a second and looks puzzled and replies with "what size motor is that?" i said 2.4, KA24...."oh thats cool" he says (I still don't think he go it though). Oh well, i'm sure it'll be the first of many SR20 kills

KA24DET @ 8psi 3/4 throttle >>>>>>>> SR20DET JDM @ 15psi full throttle

Good kill....very good killi still don't get SR people why spend 7 grand for 190whp?

Congrats on the build

Could you explain what does "heavily copper seal sprayed stock gasket" mean?

[SeVa-S13]

SR swaps cost about half of that for 190whp.

Spray Copper Gasket Sealer is just that, copper gasket sealer in a spray can used when installing head and exhaust manifold gaskets mainly. Aslong as the gaskets in good condition, enough of that crap and/or copper rtv makes it a nice replacement for a new oem gasket if you're in a fix.

Oh, and nice kill. We require dyno charts once broken in.

[Nismo_Freak]

KA24DET @ 8psi 3/4 throttle >>>>>>>> SR20DET JDM @ 15psi full throttle

I don't recall him saying anything about the car running 15 PSI, and if he was getting yanked with a lower-than-stock compression KA-T running 8 PSI untuned then I don't think he was running 15 PSI.

Just an observation.

i still don't get SR people why spend 7 grand for 190whp?

I think SR owners are wondering the same thing about spending 7k on a FWD N/a Altima.

I put over 7 grand into this thing.where did all the money go you ask.I wonder about that everyday.

Nice boost gauge btw.

[ILikeMy240sx]

Oh snap.... Nismo_Freak, you are classic

[virus77]

Checkered-Member:

Do you have a boost gauge and no turbo, or have you just not updated your signature?

[Checkered-Member]

Its time to respond to "comments"

SR swaps cost about half of that for 190whp.

If you do everything yourself, than maybe, guy up the street had a shop do it for him, 7 grand later and he has 190whp, So that guy might have spend that kind of money

I think SR owners are wondering the same thing about spending 7k on a FWD N/a Altima.

I'm wondering why you bought a car that was older then you?

Nice boost gauge btw.

While thank you, it will go nice with my turbo kit once AEM comes out with an EMS system for my year altima.

Checkered-Member:Do you have a boost gauge and no turbo, or have you just not updated your signature?

It's a vacuum/boost gauge, for now I'm only using the vacuum part.I'm building the car up for a turbo, so gauges, random coolers so that car doesn't explode in cali summer days, I'm even thinking of trying water injection on my FWD N/A car, i have a spare engine sitting in my garage, that will be used as a temp, Once I send the current engine for a rebuilt.

I'm already staring to relocate things from the front of the A/C to have room for the intercooler

So when turbo day comes everything will go smooth.
Modified by Checkered-Member at 8:11 AM 6/26/2005

[WDRacing]

If there are anymore SR vs KAT posts made from this point on, I'm just going to delete every post made except the main one.

Grow up or find another forum to post in. Try Gen Chat...

WD

[Florida240sx]

Nice job.But yea probably same psi.So dipslacement took effect not to mention bigger injectors and bigger turbo.Still interesting on how bad you smoked him though....

[somthin240]

If there are anymore SR vs KAT posts made from this point on, I'm just going to delete every post made except the main one.

Grow up or find another forum to post in. Try Gen Chat...

WD

I agree, or even better all the Ka-t people stay in the KA-t forum and all the SR people stay in the SR forum. so that way the one or two SR's don't have to defend their pen15 to 50 KA guys by picking on other people.

[turtl631]

Paying 7k for a stock boost SR is stupid. Most shops I think are around $5k for an SR installed with some basic bolt on stuff. But yea, they do cost quite a bit these days compared to 3 or 4 years ago. Anyways, good kill. I don't know how you drive up there, my experience with roads in NYC area is that they totally suck.

[LongIsland240]

Wow, didn't mean for this to turn into a ka vs sr battle. And where the hell did i mention him running 15psi? More than likely was much less than that. I raced a few sr powered 240s with the old setup and we were just about even at 6psi(me a little faster)...again, no idea what they were running (assume stock?) I do plan on going to the dyno soon...another 500 miles or so. I have a pretty good tune on her at the moment, but i want to up the boost some more and see what these injectors will take (i guess around 10-11psi is the going rate for the 370s). Well, i'll keep you all posted on everything that goes on and i'll try to make my lazy *** get the pics up somewhere.

[Remedy]

If there are anymore SR vs KAT posts made from this point on, I'm just going to delete every post made except the main one.

Grow up or find another forum to post in. Try Gen Chat...

WD

WD, isn't your sig like an ever-present antagonism to SR guys?

I'm just sayin...

[Florida240sx]

That's a good point.

[Nismo_Freak]

If you do everything yourself, than maybe, guy up the street had a shop do it for him, 7 grand later and he has 190whp, So that guy might have spend that kind of money

Incorrect, until you do an SR, or KA-T for that matter it really is hard to comprehend just how much you have to spend. I'm saying this in a non-cocky manner. It's surprising how much crap you have to put up with sometimes, you never know what will come up.

Example being, my first SR engine lost an oil pump, so sad for me. Then chmercer was building a KA-T, it was down to putting the setup on the car when he developed rod knock in the engine. Brian lost a turbo, killed a MAF, etc. God knows how many Nissan 4-cyls have been eaten by the SR, KA, and CA communities lol.

Someone who spends 7 Grand on an SR, CA, KA-T, or anything is obviously not doing their homework, or is paying alot of labor costs.

I'm wondering why you bought a car that was older then you?

1992 1989

I was born in 1984

Besides, even if I did own a car from an earlier era, there is nothing wrong with that?

[Nismo_Freak]

WD, isn't your sig like an ever-present antagonism to SR guys?

I'm just sayin...

Not really.

But someone downtalking something they obviously don't understand is, wheter it be a KA-T, CA, RB, etc. I don't like obviously poor info being spread.

[Remedy]

Not really.

Oh. ok. I mean, since you say so. Antagonism is only antagonism if you do it without knowing what you're talking about? But if you are accurate about something you put it however you want?

It seems to me that the logical conclusion you're coming to is that WD is justified and his sig is not antagonism because he knows what he's talking about. The next step then is to finish by saying he's right, at which point we all put ka-t's in our cars.

or you could say, like I was, that being antagonistic is what it is, and his sig compromises the credibility of what he was saying. But really, I was just having some fun. I didn't mean to start some sort of "thing."

[hysteria]

ignorance is bliss