Procharger for KA24DE engines

Information on the naturally-aspirated KA24E and KA24DE engines.
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AH240sx
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I've been looking around and I see it has never been done, but is there a procharger kit for s14's running on the KA motor. If so, could a KA24DE handle a supercharger? It can handle a turbo so I wouldn't see why not

Heres a mustang with a procharger



Fla240sx
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prochargers suck

especially for a higher revving engine

their warranty sucks, their product sucks, and you can get a lot more power/reliablity with other brands.........


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Fla240sx wrote:prochargers suck
I dissagree. my friend has 600hp +/- to the wheel's on a D1 in his 02' Marrow. Gear over belt drive's any day (inside the snail). they have gr8 costemer service from my experience.they dont make a kit for the KA. If you dont see it on there web page then they dont got it. I'm sure you could make costum brackets to hold the snail in place.

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AH240sx
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WWJD wrote: I'm sure you could make costum brackets to hold the snail in place.
Yea thats what i thought. I'm not a big turbo fan because of the lag and this supercharger kit in particular wont put too much load on the engine like larger models. And also I find that whine it makes as you're accelerating sexy as hell :D

FUNS14
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With a stock motor a good tuner will be your best friend.

WWJD

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turbo lag is a thing of the past now-a-days. there are so many oppionts that cancle out lag

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I think this could be a fun lil project, I even have a local friend here with a shop that would be able to make me a bracket for the thing, and werd on the lag not being that big of a deal now days.

How much does a Procharger unit go for?

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AH240sx
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wow...I
S13FX wrote:I think this could be a fun lil project, I even have a local friend here with a shop that would be able to make me a bracket for the thing, and werd on the lag not being that big of a deal now days.

How much does a Procharger unit go for?


wow...I read $4500 for a D-1 unit that cant be right. Lol thats more than my car

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I never got the point of supercharging a small displacement motor. You still won't be making any real power down low and you now have no top end pull to build. Unique? Yes. Practical? No. Besides Centrifugal superchargers are teh suck.

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i think a supercherger would be great...but there is so much out there for a turbocharger that its almost not worth it

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redtop91 wrote:I never got the point of supercharging a small displacement motor. You still won't be making any real power down low and you now have no top end pull to build. Unique? Yes. Practical? No. Besides Centrifugal superchargers are teh suck.

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i may not know much but adding a supercharger gives better low end power because its belt driven, as where turbo chargers unless its twin. give you more top end power idk im just saying

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The only thing a 240 needs really is top end power. They have plenty of low end power and accel if you know the right bolt ons. if you add more low end, you would just do burn outs all day.....1st gear would be useless. unless you add weight and i don't understand why anyone would do that. look at what you got. You have low end, accel, lightweight, (ofcourse you can go lighter), and the only thing a 240 is really missing is top end power, which generally a turbo is used for. I might be mistaken, but if you did want more low end you can use a turbo, just need some fine tuning. I think..... i'm not a 100% on that

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WWJD wrote:I dissagree.. Gear over belt drive's any day (inside the snail). they have gr8 costemer service from my experience.
dude what are you talking about? their are entire websites devoted to how crappy prochargers are and how bad the warranty, rebuild price, shipping costs, and rebuild time all are.... not too mention the time between rebuilds(most people have back-ups or just let their car sit for weeks or months every year to get their procharger rebuilt, the rest moved on to other supercharger companies with great succes) another thing bad about prochargers are its easy to over spin them, especially on an engine with a higher redline... say like 7k RPM's is pretty high compared to the 5k rpm redlines of 5.0's and other SBC's, sure it will make some more boost, but it will kill the unit quickly........ which kind of sucks, you have to go small and opt for reliability and try to keep revs down........

Vortech is one of the only ways to go when talking about these types of superchargers, some of their designs and technology blows away the other guys..... not too mention power potential is greater.....

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Superchargers cost waaaay too much money and they only offer a specific amount of horsepower.Not good! A turbo though, it's cheaper and you control how much power is added.What more do you want? A 5.0L mustang guy laughing at you for putting a supercharger on your 4 banger?NO!!Just go turbo!

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want more power with little to no lag. get an s15 t28, piece together a tubo kit for around 1500, call it a day. Full boost at like 3000 or something.

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Fla240sx wrote:
car sit for weeks or months every year to get their procharger rebuilt, another thing bad about prochargers are its easy to over spin them, especially on an engine with a higher redline... say like 7k RPM's is pretty high compared to the 5k rpm redlines of 5.0's and other SBC's, sure it will make some more boost, but it will kill the unit quickly........ which kind of sucks, you have to go small and opt for reliability and try to keep revs down........

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The longest I ever had to wait on a procharger was a week, send it to them and get it back. No matter if vortec or procharger or anyone at that you'll still have down time if you snail has to get sevice.

when snails are over spun it only means it was under sized for the motor (Ibelive). I'm not defending procharger I'm just sharing my experience.

I would say turbo anyday. by the time you get all the brackets made to fit the snail in. the nose of your car would be so much heavier I dont think it would be worth it


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Fla240sx wrote:
WWJD wrote:I dissagree.. Gear over belt drive's any day (inside the snail). they have gr8 costemer service from my experience.
dude what are you talking about? their are entire websites devoted to how crappy prochargers are and how bad the warranty, rebuild price, shipping costs, and rebuild time all are.... not too mention the time between rebuilds(most people have back-ups or just let their car sit for weeks or months every year to get their procharger rebuilt, the rest moved on to other supercharger companies with great succes) another thing bad about prochargers are its easy to over spin them, especially on an engine with a higher redline... say like 7k RPM's is pretty high compared to the 5k rpm redlines of 5.0's and other SBC's, sure it will make some more boost, but it will kill the unit quickly........ which kind of sucks, you have to go small and opt for reliability and try to keep revs down........

Vortech is one of the only ways to go when talking about these types of superchargers, some of their designs and technology blows away the other guys..... not too mention power potential is greater.....
Yeah. I dug up an OLD POST. Shut it. I was trying to help another guy out in the general 240 forum and came across this. It lit me on fire.

I hate when people say "vortech is better." I have been around ProCharger systems for the past 8 years. On mustangs, on camaro's, on Mini's.

Now you tell me how Vortech is better than Procharger, when Procharger owns them. Like literally, not the fanboi analogy.

In my younger day, my step father and I (who has been to the only week long class for certification to handle ProCharger) fabricated brackets for the SC-1 Procharger with piping to my KA24DE. Yeah, this project didn't go through because I was still in high school and my parents aren't rich.

Hell, we still have the lay out and cut out's for it. We began to talk with Doug at ProCharger - Only reason he didn't like the idea is because no one was talking about superchargers on a 4 cyl., much less a Nissan.

I believe centrifugal superchargers, especially intercooled, are the best way to go. Roots style's have been proven time after time when set as an aftermarket application they are not nearly as efficient as any centrifugal charger.

OK, i'm done with my rant.


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