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I will try to help you as much as possible.


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well....I had gotten a LEGAL copy from college and used it for 2 weeks.

It wouldn't recognize the USB ports on my asus m2n32 SLI deluxe motherboard.Also the dashboard on the right side of the screen would flicker in while gaming(GRAW2, and BF2142.)

But i already solved it... reinstalled XP sp2

i just ran into some annoying issues those being the ones i remember. i know there were more. I was going to wait till a service pack came out and probably reinstall it.

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that flicker was probably due to the AERO in vista... This is a firm statement about vista.. if you don;t have a dx10 graphics card.. Don't run vista.

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sheesh that sucks for me.... i was debating getting a DX10 card... but when i built this machine in january i found an awesome deal on a SLI 7900gs setup... Figured cheap performance was better then progress but oh well..


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I eman you "CAN" run a non-dx10 card fine... but VISTA itself is a DX10 enviroment. I beleive it kind of EMulates the DX10 enviroment, thus the few slow downs for the non-dx10 card.

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I think there is a fundamental thing missing in Vista ... all the MIDI drivers are gone, as far as I can tell.

I am unable to get my son's computer to talk to his computer via MIDI ports. So, I bought a USB to MIDI convertor cable and even this will not work.

From what I can tell, it looks like all support for MIDI synthesis has been removed from the sound capabilities in Vista. Can you confirm this?

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Audio devices supportWindows Vista builds on the Universal Audio Architecture, a new class driver definition that aims to reduce the need for third-party drivers, and to increase the overall stability and reliability of audio in Windows.

Support for Intel High Definition Audio devices (which replaces Intel's previous AC97 audio hardware standard)

Extended support for USB audio devices:

Built-in decoding of padded AC-3 (Dolby Digital), MP3, WMA and WMA Pro streams and outputting as S/PDIF.

Support for MIDI "Elements".[5] New support for asynchronous endpoints.[6]

IEEE 1394 (aka Firewire) audio support is slated for a future release of Windows Vista, to be implemented as a full class driver, automatically supporting IEEE 1394 AV/C audio devices.

What is he trying to do? Play his instrument through the MIDI port?

Look under the sound controller, there might be some MUTE's checked.

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Im quite the computer nut myself. not in IT though, I opted for another route after my EE degree. Enough with the preface and now for the question.

Im running vista x64. Found enough tweaks and workarounds that I dont have any problems. However I use the 32 bit firefox. Internet explorer, is extremely slow, slow to boot, slow to load pages, and has a HUGE cpu stamp and a HUGE increase in memory usage to couple it.

My question is, how can I run IE without the huge cpu and memory stamp. When I run firefox, cpu usage is very very low, memory depends on the tab usage. Any hints?

Thanks in Advance

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Yeah, internet explorer when tis starts up reserves enough memory to run 3 tabs at the same even though you are only running 1. Yeah retarded. When microsoft designed IE7, they assumed everyone has atleast 1 gb of memory to play with.

Curious on your system specs. You could also lower IEXPLORER's proitity level in the task manager.

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GEO wrote:What is he trying to do? Play his instrument through the MIDI port?
Nope. It is a USB to USB connection ... the piano has a USB input! But the music is a MIDI file ... that is where things break.
GEO wrote:Look under the sound controller, there might be some MUTE's checked.
Again, no luck. I checked with Yamaha (the maker of the Piano that we are trying to connect to). Their development team is reporting that they have the same problem too ... with no fix in sight, since they see this as a Microsoft Vista limitation now. Their latest driver "compatible with Vista" has the same problem, and they are trying to figure it out with Microsoft.

I was hoping you might have some insight into this issue.

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Wow thats alot of memory/cpu usage for 3 tabs. Right now in 32 bit firefox Ive got 11 tabs open. 6 apartments for my gf to look at when she wakes up 3 nico tabs and 2 work related tabs. Firefox running at less than 10 percent more than 5 percent cpu usage, with roughly 250MB ram usage.

Im running the core2 duo e6600 at 2.4GHz 2GB ram: two 1 gig sticks, the x1600 nvidia gfx card. 3x250GB WD drives and two dvd-rw drives, Asus P5B mobo, onboard sound (ran out of cash) oh and vista x64

Really though, Im fine with firefox, its just sometimes, some webpages only work in IE, which is annoying. I saw this thread after bumming around in the forums, and thought well, that sure is nice of you to offer some help

Lowering the priority level doesnt help. Cash flow is quite tight until school/work is finished I hope the solution doesnt have to do with getting more RAM. All in all, this is the most solid/stable os Ive ever used, Id even go as far as to say its better than the MAC os, and on par with linux

Thanks again for the help, any help is hella appreciated.

As for szhosain, it looks like its a vista limitation of the driver, There may be a workaround, what kind of product are you trying to hook up, I'll have a look for ya. So far to date, only the iPhone I couldnt find a workaround for in the 64bit vista
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n00b240 wrote:As for szhosain, it looks like its a vista limitation of the driver, There may be a workaround, what kind of product are you trying to hook up, I'll have a look for ya.
It's a Yamaha Digital Piano model CVP-301. Has a USB connector and the cable works fine. The Vista system sees the piano, but can't play anything on it ... Yamaha says it is because Microsoft has messed up the MIDI playback devices, so no MIDI devices show up for this piano. Everything works fine from an XP system to the same piano and same Yamaha playback software (it is an XP driver though!).

Supposedly, Yamaha is working with Microsoft to resolve this issue, but I was wondering if anyone had heard more about it ... I should check the Yamaha web site to see if they have updated the driver recently (in the past few weeks).

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Nope. It is a USB to USB connection ... the piano has a USB input! But the music is a MIDI file ... that is where things break.

Again, no luck. I checked with Yamaha (the maker of the Piano that we are trying to connect to). Their development team is reporting that they have the same problem too ... with no fix in sight, since they see this as a Microsoft Vista limitation now. Their latest driver "compatible with Vista" has the same problem, and they are trying to figure it out with Microsoft.

I was hoping you might have some insight into this issue.

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I have a few work arounds for the time being.

maybe jsut setup a mic for now to record the piano?

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n00b240 wrote:Wow thats alot of memory/cpu usage for 3 tabs. Right now in 32 bit firefox Ive got 11 tabs open. 6 apartments for my gf to look at when she wakes up 3 nico tabs and 2 work related tabs. Firefox running at less than 10 percent more than 5 percent cpu usage, with roughly 250MB ram usage.

Im running the core2 duo e6600 at 2.4GHz 2GB ram: two 1 gig sticks, the x1600 nvidia gfx card. 3x250GB WD drives and two dvd-rw drives, Asus P5B mobo, onboard sound (ran out of cash) oh and vista x64

Really though, Im fine with firefox, its just sometimes, some webpages only work in IE, which is annoying. I saw this thread after bumming around in the forums, and thought well, that sure is nice of you to offer some help

Lowering the priority level doesnt help. Cash flow is quite tight until school/work is finished I hope the solution doesnt have to do with getting more RAM. All in all, this is the most solid/stable os Ive ever used, Id even go as far as to say its better than the MAC os, and on par with linux

Thanks again for the help, any help is hella appreciated.

As for szhosain, it looks like its a vista limitation of the driver, There may be a workaround, what kind of product are you trying to hook up, I'll have a look for ya. So far to date, only the iPhone I couldnt find a workaround for in the 64bit vista

Modified by n00b240 at 10:27 AM 9/21/2007
Non related question.. Why are you using 64bit?

Also, whats the ram on that video card? I know for one, the Explorer interface is different with its cell shading and stuff. Maybe its hogging up resources because your gfx card can't handle it?

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I havent been able to find a solution for that yamaha you are using, Ive poured over many info's to no avail. It is a vista midi problem for sure. Maybe in SP1 you will see some light.

I dont know why Im using x64. I like the challenge of having something broken and then trying to write the code to fix it. My current problems are the slow 32 bit IE, and no flash x64 support.

Ive got 256 MB of RAM on the gfx card...would I need more? I presume you are running the 32 bit vista eh?

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I take that back, Ive been holding off on the windows updates just because I wanted to pour over each one to make sure they dont slow down or eff up my comp since I need this thing running every day.

Of the 35-40 updates that were offered, I installed all but 11 of them. My comp boots up with lightning speed, file transfers from usb to comp and from hard drive to hard drive are much faster. IE x86 is faster although not as fast as IE x64. Its much more bearable now.

And then the Wonder Patches. I still need to pour over and maybe install there are 4 of them. http://www.istartedsomething.c...dates/

I'll post any updates I have

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n00b240 wrote:I havent been able to find a solution for that yamaha you are using, Ive poured over many info's to no avail. It is a vista midi problem for sure. Maybe in SP1 you will see some light.
I certainly hope so! The Yamaha guys are still saying it is a Microsoft Vista problem ... sigh.

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