problem after changeing my HG! ka24de

[lebgangstah]

so i finally did my headgasket change...put everything back together , put the engine at TDC took off my cams , and all put everything back , and tightend it all to specs ,i put the timeing all right and everything was marked right ... BUT , then tried starting it nothing happened... so today took the distributer out , put the engine at TDC , aligned everything cranked her up ! she started! BUT i had to play around with it and it revs above 1000 rpm , then just bogs out and dies. ? what could be the problem.. i did search around tried bunch things nothing worked and didnt want to bring old threads abck to life. thanks

okay , compression , spark , fuel , all , works.. i can smell the fuel... also i timed it to specs , and also used videos to make sure , my cam lobes are faceing exactly outwards.. , uhm as for the things iv tried , i took out my whole fuel rail today ... put it back together plugged everything back in , car runs fine.. then just starts bogging and dies .. iv been trying to aline the dizzy but i think im always a tooth off , ill try playing with it tom again... , and i did do a headgaket change car was running fine with a faulty headgasket but i wanted to change it so no further damage can happen .. took it all apart timeing for cams and sprocket marked... everything .. , also when i played with a dizzzy a bit it would run smooth then jsut bog out engine starts to shake and did go around spun it by hand before... starting her up so no damage could be done .. not to sure about the fuel rail being in properly . anyone got a picture they can send me of how the injectors should look like and be , , please because i can smell it getting fuel my plugs were soaked in fuel , then it finally cranked today but is REALLLY rough... would that be an issue because of the dizzy being off? thanks..

[moso]

I could get my 240 to run with the dizzy one tooth off so i dont think thats your issue. when you removed the rail, did you check to make sure you didnt have a leaky injector?

[lebgangstah]

the fuel rail just dose not look like its on like but i dont remmber how it should sit, can anyone take a picture of there fuel rail and post it please i cant seem to find one on google. , also idk i might have the dizzy off by alot. , but i dont get it would that cause my engine to rev above 1000 rpm and then just the engine shakes likee s*** , after that.

[moso]

http://www.houston240sx.com/attachment. ... 1213071477

there are spacers that go under the fuel rail to manifold bolts, dont forget them.

[lebgangstah]

you got anything closer like i need to see how it goes into the manifold.. i think i bent some bolts takeing the mani out , the 2 that are stuck in there , and its just messing it up. thanks i put those in the 2 black pieaces , that go before the bolts i have them. , also do u have a picture showing which vac line goes into the fuel rail i want to make sure i got the back vac hoses in right thanks

[lexcrob]

If it actually starts up and runs your distributor timing is likely on. I've never had one run a tooth or two in either direction. The biggest thing that helped me is when you put it in the rotor with be facing the one right BEFORE #1. Make shur you got your firing order right! Time to go back and double check the easy stuff. As for the vacuum hose on the fuel rail its for the fuel pressure regulator. It just needs a vacuum source!
If all else fails look eveywhere for a vacuum leak or hose not connected. While your add it add a ground from the engine to the chasis as ive heard and seen many weird happenings from poor grounding!

[lebgangstah]

okay well , Just re did my timeing again .... and it looks the same as it had before.. pretty sure my chains are right... BUT before i did that i took out all m spark plus , spark plug 1 , and 4 had black carbon on them , BUT 2 3 ? WERE WET!! and i think the car was running ON 2 CYLINDERS!! , also would this be affected if the spark plug wires were damaged? cuz i did try and clean them with , paint thiner due to them beign dirty ... , and MY injectors are squirting out and i can here a squeish noise when i try and crank the car , im gonna try and fire it up tom the bat died on me it would try and start up , started for few seconds turned off . so ill leave that for tom , But i think my fuel rail isnt on right... the injectors arent going in the black things on the manifold right.. dose not seem like it thats why im asking for a picture to see how they should really be. and for the hose im makeing sure cuz i might have the EGR ones in wrong aswell

[moso]

tomorrow i will get out my dslr and take some good photos of the fuel rail

[lebgangstah]

alright that sounds good? can u also get me a picture of the vam hoses for the fuel rail , and the egr i think i mixed them up .,

[lexcrob]

just search (240sx fuel rail google images)

Id say your right on top of it if 2 wet and others not your not getting spark. You could always lay em out and crank it over with fuel injectors disconnected and watch em spark. Just gotta lay em so the plug strap touches a ground.

[lebgangstah]

nope it starts now dizzy was off i seen a video of the fuel rail but pictures on google are not so good... thats why im requesting some it would be very helpful! , also my fuel rail isnt on right ... so im gonna have to take it all apart and fix my mistakes. But the only problem about it is its not sititng right beacuse of the one bolt im putting in... do i need all 3 bolts in'?

the 2 in the middle goes in fine! ,BUT the one on the side by the EGR !is messing everything up

[moso]

you need to put all three in, its a mofo. you need to set it in that bolt and then wiggle the rail onto the injector seals. Im headed out now to snap that photo.

ps i have no egr and my fuel pressure regulator vacuum line goes directly to the intake manifold.

[moso]

you can see all three bolts holding my rail in place, the injectors are almost centered in the gaskets and all of them seal. i did however have to force it all into place and tuck the seals back in with a flat head screwdriver.

[lebgangstah]

Okay ahha thas my problem mine arent even clsoe to being in like that but its a b**** to get them in ... and the hidden bolt snapped lol so that no longer there.. but the fuel rail sets on the others im pretty sure i can adjust it to , by putting more spacers , ill try if that dose not work im stuck takeing off my whole mani and emptying the new... antifreez i put in .. damn that s*** a pain but i gotta figure out if i have the vac lines in right

[lebgangstah]

Well Got my injectors in!!! andd.... it didnt work wasnt that... got a mechanics to come see my car , apprently MY bottom timeing chain is off... i never touched the botteom chain so .. im stuck takeing the engine apart again.

[lexcrob]

If you rotate the engine around a bunch with it off it makes tensioners let chain get slack. Then if you rotate it in opposite direction......click click click... I was leakdown testing an engine i picked up and did that and kept testing again and again wondering what the heck was going on. Took it apart and yup that sucks.

[lebgangstah]

well ... finally got my lower timeing chain off after takeing my frikin oil pan off a bit... now mechanics comeing by to fix my lower timeing chain BUT!! my problem now is how the hell am i suppose to put the oil pump tube back in or what ever its called that was connected to the lower timing cover i had to pull it out cuz i dropped the bolt in the pan got it out after it took me about 20 min to take the nuts off.. i really dont wanna lift my engine up or drop the crossmember tho.. or am i stuck doing it that way cuzzz i know its gonna be a b**** to get it all back together! ... also found out too plugs on my transmission are broken 0_o wires split in half.. so im stuck fixing that.. and needa bleed my clutch.

[compactfean]

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/240sx/91-94
Here ya go. Em page 9. That's the only way. Its really not that bad.

[lexcrob]

DEAR GOD just plop the engine out only takes like 3 hours maybeless with soem fellow wrenchers

[moso]

I found if you just unbolt the motor mounts you can jack up the motor high enough to stick a 2x4 block in between the two motor mount halves. then lower the oil pan enough to reattach the oil pickup. last time i did it i didnt even lift the motor. i just used my fingers to spin the bolt in and used an box end wrench to finish it off. it took forever, it seamed, but in reality it wasnt bad.

[lebgangstah]

so the idiot mechanic that looked at my car was wrong!! my lower timing chain was fine i just had the top off by few teeth seemed okay but yea.. i took everything apart by nothing guess im gonna loosen the mounts and just left the motor up , i pretty much got every usefull tool i dont want to pull the motor out .. just wanna get it running so i can get it ready for paint. thanks for the help guys!

[jbracy7]

Ahh KA drama thats why we love these pain in the arse cars nothing like them,but be ready man there's another headache coming.and you'll love every knuckol busting second of it

[lebgangstah]

yeaa but it will be worth it i think im gonna fix her up and sell it , i want one with an sr20 , or a skyline


plus when i started it for the first time... it sounded like it was running on frikin 2 cylinders it sounded like s***. i show of made a video