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I'v had a lot of different opinions on what kind of air filter to get for my 240. Should I get KNN or a JWT? Or something else? What do you guys have, what is the best kind?


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Get240DiZzY wrote:I'v had a lot of different opinions on what kind of air filter to get for my 240. Should I get KNN or a JWT? Or something else? What do you guys have, what is the best kind?


So you've, "had a lot of different opinions on what kind of air filter to get" and now you're asking for MORE?!!!! Well, I have the AEM Short Ram. I believe it is at least amongst the best choices we have, if not the best. A lot of people would say the Injen, or K&N, or JWT, or HKS, or any number of other brands. Go with the AEM...... best bang for the buck.

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I want to replace the stock pipe with something.

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Tino wrote:I want to replace the stock pipe with something.


I'll bet you do..... pervert!

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I knew I left myself wide open for that one. I figured freaky would of hit it first.

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Tino wrote:I knew I left myself wide open for that one


So to speak.... (wide open for that stock pipe)

hey this crap needs to be in the ring..... sorry I played into it.. just feeling frisky tonight!

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**** 0-2

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Tino wrote:**** 0-2


:yesnod

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Id suggeset getting an ApexI filter for optimum filtration and no cleaning ever.

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Why not keep the stock intake tube and buy a filter/adapter from ebay for $20?

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Because the stock tube is more restrictive.

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It's just an air filter!!!!! you won't even be able to tell the differents preformance wise between a $200 Injen intake or just a cheaper adaptor with a cone filter using the stock pipe. It all comes down to if your willing to pay for the look of an injen, or AEM.

And i'm sure you could have searched past threads and found what you were looking for much faster then waiting for people to post the opinions in a new thread.

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you will be able to tell a difference, at least in the numbers if you get it dynoed. if you just get a filter, drop in or cone, you are still using stock piping which is restrictive. if you get an injen, or aem, or whatever, it will have better airflow, just because they are designed for the best airflow they can give.

i see you have the apexi n1 dual. why didn't you just get a n1 muffler and use stock piping? thats what you should have done if you followed your own opinion on intake : )

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The stock piping for the intake is the same size as the Ingen intake, I found this out when I was looking to buy an Intake, all your paying for there is the crome look, and I looked at dyno that a friend of mine had run on his 240 and with the ingen intake he got 1.5 less horsepower than with factory piping and a K&N cone air filter so I guess you can see a differance in the numbers on the Dyno.

P.S. Venom Intake is pure Crap....

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i didn't say the piping size was different, i'm talking about the fact that aftermarket stuff is less restrictive than OEM. thats interesting about that guy dynoeing less power w/ an injen than w/ stock piping. something is weird about that.

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Nothing is weird about that. You mean to say that smooth plastic is more restrictive than smooth metal? BS. An intake is an intake, whats the maximum gain you're gonna see on a CAI? 5 hp? With just a filter, what 4 or 3 hp? Any way you look at it, its not all that much power at all, and you're not gonna feel it all that much.

I'm rockin' a K&N drop in, and I swiss-cheesed the bottom of the airbox. Sounds like an aftermarket intake, feels like an aftermarket intake. The only difference, your paying what 150, 175, and I payed 35.

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alright dude back off. i made a mistake, i'm sorry. i thought the aftermarket piping was smoother....is that so wrong? i don't wanna start a flame war, just don't be so harsh when trying to prove a point. i'll get it either way.....

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I'm not trying to be a d*ck, sorry if I came off that way.

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its cool. i guess i kinda lashed out too. my fault :(

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Nah, you didn't. Whatever, its dropped anyway.

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Lobot wrote:The stock piping for the intake is the same size as the Ingen intake, I found this out when I was looking to buy an Intake, all your paying for there is the crome look, and I looked at dyno that a friend of mine had run on his 240 and with the ingen intake he got 1.5 less horsepower than with factory piping and a K&N cone air filter so I guess you can see a differance in the numbers on the Dyno.

P.S. Venom Intake is pure Crap....


The stock piping IS NOT THE SAME SIZE!!!! how many times do people have to go through this!!? Yes, the ends are the same size, but that is it. The AEM tube is more direct than stock, and it stays the SAME diameter all the way through. The stock plastic pipe gets VERY narrow in the middle, and has MORE RESTRICTIVE passages as a result. Your friend payed to have his car dyno'd before and after an intake install... that sounds suspect... but giving you the benefit of the doubt... if those results are accurate I would say it would have more to do with the filter, than the tube. ALSO... the AEM intake is not chrome.. it is powder/zinchronium coated for heat insulation... something the stock pipe does not provide.... and yes,... the styling is improved also. There is no doubt that the difference is VERY slight... but when you continue building the car... the differences become exponential. You are right to an extent, but your logic is flawed... cutting corners will only get you so far... and if you want to seriously tune your car... hack jobs and jerry rigs will haunt you in the end. But... hey that's up to you.

And it has nothing to do with how "smooth" the pipes are...

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Thanks Apexi240, just what i would have said. And 95silviase i can see what you were tring to get at. The stock pipe does have those ridges in it and in theory that could cause restriction but the low power gains you see from an intake isn't worth the $200 for an pipe unless you care about the looks. Then its cool. In my case when i get an sr20 an injen would be worthless.

I was just tring to make a point. No affence taken, no affence given:)

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none taken. at least you know what i was getting at. yea, those ridges or whatever is the stock piping is what i'm talkin about, and the fact that it gets narrower, etc.

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After reading all of your sigantures, I see that K&N is the filter fo choice. Thanks!

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I just did it the cheap way because I plan on doing a swap, and wasn't sure if the intake would fit. Plus I'm cheap and all I'm doing for now is an intake and exhaust anyway. No sense in hooking up an engine that I'm gonna pull (God only knows when).

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I reccomend the Apexi Filter, NOTHING is cleaner in cars then apexi filters. Great filter to have in the car. Id check the apexi webpage and do some research. I forgotthe site address... but my friend in the G2IC club sent me a link about 5 filters that were lab tested... and apexi reigned supreme.

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We should really start a parts co-op. Guys that are just buying a 240 can buy the parts off guys that do the SR swap... but had previously built up their KA. Or even a trubo KA... I'll have to sell my header and intake someday.... when I can afford a turbo. Basically we would be helping each other out big time. Imagine if you could buy I/H/E used off another 240 owner who no longer needs them. Everybody benefits!

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That is a really good idea.

The APEX filter is REALLLY (yes it required 3 Ls) expensive, but you can use this on the SR too right? since its just the filter?

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maineimport wrote:The stock piping IS NOT THE SAME SIZE!!!! how many times do people have to go through this!!? Yes, the ends are the same size, but that is it. The AEM tube is more direct than stock, and it stays the SAME diameter all the way through. The stock plastic pipe gets VERY narrow in the middle, and has MORE RESTRICTIVE passages as a result. Your friend payed to have his car dyno'd before and after an intake install... that sounds suspect... but giving you the benefit of the doubt... if those results are accurate I would say it would have more to do with the filter, than the tube. ALSO... the AEM intake is not chrome.. it is powder/zinchronium coated for heat insulation... something the stock pipe does not provide.... and yes,... the styling is improved also. There is no doubt that the difference is VERY slight... but when you continue building the car... the differences become exponential. You are right to an extent, but your logic is flawed... cutting corners will only get you so far... and if you want to seriously tune your car... hack jobs and jerry rigs will haunt you in the end. But... hey that's up to you.

And it has nothing to do with how "smooth" the pipes are...


I can see how it would sound suspect cause you don't know the guy but I swear he spends more on dyno testing than actual parts, I dont see the point I've never had mine dyno'd and until I get everything I want done. Thanks for the correction on the AEM I might have to look into seeing if its worth getting one now.

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Has anybody tried the Blitz air filter. It works really well with my 240 with Injen piping. I had the cold air extension with the Injen filter also, but took it out and replace it with just the short ram and the Blitz air filter which I like more. I also tried it the Blitz filter with stock piping and it doesnt "roar" that much as with the piping. What can I say, I have too much time on my hand. Hehehe.


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