Well, I have been masquerading (sp) around here for a couple months reading and being annoying about 240s, and for never owning one, I can honestly say I think I know more than 90% of people who own them. My original intention was ofcoarse to get a 240, but that may all be thwarted by a monster in a 88 mustang body.
Custom fabricated V8 and transmission under the hood, built for dragging, with only 6k miles on both. Runs low 12's in the quarter, and is only $2,700. I have yet to see the car, but have been told it has a roll bar and and is need of a paint job. Interior is not known yet, but I would think it would be gutted, but I have also been told that there are many many spare parts, and that a large amount of the interior might be with that. The engine and transmission cost over 6K alone to be built. I am really conflicted. I have yet to see the car, but man, the power!
I am just trying to consider whether or not i would rather have a 95 240 which i can pick up for 2850, or this thing. I am really looking for power out of my car, and it just seems like the stang is starting (it's still N/A) where the 240 would max out as far as power. I also have to consider the daily driver factor, this is a carbed engine, racing cams and all that, so it may be pulling 6mpg or something. It's like 2 cars at different ends of the spectrum. Arg. Help?
Possibly getting a car..not a 240 though
Any car that runs 12's (alleged) and the owner's only asking $2700 is a crock of horse dung. Especially if he spent $6k on the drivetrain alone. Something's majorly rotten in that deal.
Unless your sole purpose in driving is getting a 1/4 time, get the 240...you will be so much happier. There's a ton of things you can do with the 240 platform, and it will be a much more reliable/economical daily driver in the meantime. From somebody who's a muscle car AND 240 owner. (so is Aries, in a hybrid kind of way)
Unless your sole purpose in driving is getting a 1/4 time, get the 240...you will be so much happier. There's a ton of things you can do with the 240 platform, and it will be a much more reliable/economical daily driver in the meantime. From somebody who's a muscle car AND 240 owner. (so is Aries, in a hybrid kind of way)
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nissanrcer240
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I was exagerating a bit, but you know what i mean. A would think a KA would have have 10 times the problems running low 12s and take 10 times the work as a V8. Plus you throw a blower on that V8 and you can easily put out 10s, the block was built for it.
This is also an allegedly custom built engine. I.E. comes from a company that makes racing blocks. And this cars sole purpose it seems was to make 1/4 times.
The reason it's 2700 is because he has permantly moved to Nevada, and with the car in AZ, he has no place to store it, and he just needs to get rid of it. He is actually asking 3,000, but as part of the deal we were thinking i would accept a 700 debt he owes to my friend (who told me about this car initially) and drop the price to 2k, making it 2700 total. His brother in law is holding it here for him now, but he has to sell it within the month. My friend who has seen the engine says it completly cherry and he was going to get the car himself, but he decided to put the money elsewhere. I trust it when he sais it's a great find, if for nothing else than the engine and transmission because he's been racing for 20+ years and raced just about everything with wheels, needless to say he knows his ****. I still have to look at it, but i appreciate the input. I don't know alot about big block engines like this, and more importanly don't know the wealth of things that could go wrong. The more I think about the more I realize it's probably going to be rotten beans. Probably no A/C (must in AZ), no power steering since it was drag, no interior, blah. But if the engine is all it is said to be..it's almost to put up with it.
P.S."240 max out at 12's?um...11's in a nitrous fed KA...10's in a turbo KA...faster in my monster..."Where the fock have you ever seen a nitroused KA run 11s and not blow it's *** up? Better question where have you see an turbo KA run 10s? With or without nitrous? I was under the impression without say a good 5 grand into that ENGINE you wern't pulling past a high 12? I am not married with kids like some of you guys and I certainly don't have the income that reflects, so dropping 5K into a little I4 and then 5K into a turbo setup is not really an option if I care to be running 10s (which i still probably wouldn't get). Or have I just horribly misinterpretted information during my stay here?
This is also an allegedly custom built engine. I.E. comes from a company that makes racing blocks. And this cars sole purpose it seems was to make 1/4 times.
The reason it's 2700 is because he has permantly moved to Nevada, and with the car in AZ, he has no place to store it, and he just needs to get rid of it. He is actually asking 3,000, but as part of the deal we were thinking i would accept a 700 debt he owes to my friend (who told me about this car initially) and drop the price to 2k, making it 2700 total. His brother in law is holding it here for him now, but he has to sell it within the month. My friend who has seen the engine says it completly cherry and he was going to get the car himself, but he decided to put the money elsewhere. I trust it when he sais it's a great find, if for nothing else than the engine and transmission because he's been racing for 20+ years and raced just about everything with wheels, needless to say he knows his ****. I still have to look at it, but i appreciate the input. I don't know alot about big block engines like this, and more importanly don't know the wealth of things that could go wrong. The more I think about the more I realize it's probably going to be rotten beans. Probably no A/C (must in AZ), no power steering since it was drag, no interior, blah. But if the engine is all it is said to be..it's almost to put up with it.
P.S."240 max out at 12's?um...11's in a nitrous fed KA...10's in a turbo KA...faster in my monster..."Where the fock have you ever seen a nitroused KA run 11s and not blow it's *** up? Better question where have you see an turbo KA run 10s? With or without nitrous? I was under the impression without say a good 5 grand into that ENGINE you wern't pulling past a high 12? I am not married with kids like some of you guys and I certainly don't have the income that reflects, so dropping 5K into a little I4 and then 5K into a turbo setup is not really an option if I care to be running 10s (which i still probably wouldn't get). Or have I just horribly misinterpretted information during my stay here?
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Onizuka
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toki wrote:P.S."240 max out at 12's?um...11's in a nitrous fed KA...10's in a turbo KA...faster in my monster..."Where the fock have you ever seen a nitroused KA run 11s and not blow it's *** up? Better question where have you see an turbo KA run 10s? With or without nitrous? I was under the impression without say a good 5 grand into that ENGINE you wern't pulling past a high 12? I am not married with kids like some of you guys and I certainly don't have the income that reflects, so dropping 5K into a little I4 and then 5K into a turbo setup is not really an option if I care to be running 10s (which i still probably wouldn't get). Or have I just horribly misinterpretted information during my stay here?
Aries has seen KA's go that fast because he is the one that owned them, go look at his website...
No kidding. Once again, a car that has been run like that has been run ragged. It's no daily driver for sure, and as a purely drag car, cmon, how many souped up mustangs are there out there. Frankly, if that much money was put in it and it was worth so much it would be worth keeping to the owner, period. I've seen REALLY FAST but ragged out cars get pushed off on kids a dozen times, it's a foolish move to say the least.
Don't buy any Ford product! Ford's are the worst type of vehicle you can own, everything goes out on their vehicles even when they are new. What Ford product hasnt been recalled yet, even the crappy new Focus has a recall as it may start on fire. That says alot about Ford products. Especially if the guy tells you 2,700 for an alleged 12 sec car. It probably does 12 seconds getting towed behind a Nissan! Just my 2 cents, in the long run the Nissan will always be faster.
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FrEaK you obviously didn't catch the part about me saying i was exagerating saying they maxed out at 12s in my second post..
But yeah..doesn't quite seem like there is much of anything ford left on other car except for the chasis and body...possibly the steering wheel. I can't get a hold of who I need to get down to looking at this...rather frustrating. I doubt I'm actually going to get it, especially after the reactions from some of the more established members here (saying "DOMESTIC FORD SUCKS DUR DUR DUR" isn't helping any.)
FUCJNSBGUOIGIUQTAR(_*&^%*&! I just wanted a fast car damnit. Everything is gay.
But yeah..doesn't quite seem like there is much of anything ford left on other car except for the chasis and body...possibly the steering wheel. I can't get a hold of who I need to get down to looking at this...rather frustrating. I doubt I'm actually going to get it, especially after the reactions from some of the more established members here (saying "DOMESTIC FORD SUCKS DUR DUR DUR" isn't helping any.)
FUCJNSBGUOIGIUQTAR(_*&^%*&! I just wanted a fast car damnit. Everything is gay.
It's not that Ford or any domestic is necessarily bad. Neither am I exactly thrilled with the rather ignorant anti-domestic posting going on here. Grow up, people. This is not a competition to see who can bash who, or who can bad-mouth what make of car. Half of you probably never even owned a Ford, and merely base your knowledge strictly on dubious hearsay.
With the Mustang, it's more that the numbers don't agree to something that I feel will be a worthwhile investment (or reliable one).
A car that can lay down that kind of 1/4 time is, 9 times out of 10, worth a heck of a lot more than $2700 - if it's properly built. Even if it's a stripped drag car. Even if it's a Mustang with a small-block already built. There's still a ton of other factors to consider - tires (drag cars go thru 'em quick!), differential, shocks, etc.
Now you did mention you can get a special deal because of extenuating circumstances...nevertheless, if the guy had really invested that much into making it a 12 sec. car, he would be looking for a lot more if it was a fundamentally sound car, moving or no.
Just my $.02, and I've been burned purchasing many a fast car before.
With the Mustang, it's more that the numbers don't agree to something that I feel will be a worthwhile investment (or reliable one).
A car that can lay down that kind of 1/4 time is, 9 times out of 10, worth a heck of a lot more than $2700 - if it's properly built. Even if it's a stripped drag car. Even if it's a Mustang with a small-block already built. There's still a ton of other factors to consider - tires (drag cars go thru 'em quick!), differential, shocks, etc.
Now you did mention you can get a special deal because of extenuating circumstances...nevertheless, if the guy had really invested that much into making it a 12 sec. car, he would be looking for a lot more if it was a fundamentally sound car, moving or no.
Just my $.02, and I've been burned purchasing many a fast car before.
240sxgirl wrote:Don't buy any Ford product! Ford's are the worst type of vehicle you can own.
Ford did make a good car actually, the original GT40, sweeping Lemans 123 spots in '66 and winning '67,'68,'69. Broke Ferrari's 6 year winning streak. That is a fine automobile!The New GT40 remake looks nice too. What is up with all these 'retro' cars they are doing now? The thunderbird, GT40, and now a Shelby Cobra mustang too.One might say that Ford is no longer able to design a new car that is on par with the classics.
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FORD= Fu*ked Over Rebuilt Dodge.I know as wells as anyone the sound of a throaty v8 makes you sit side ways in the chair, but the deal your looking at smells. Shes been run hard and won't last you more than 2 months before you spend thousands on fixing it again. If you have something else to drive and plenty of money to throw away, go ahead. other wise stic with something reliable, and fast. 240!!!
toki, dont flame me for giving my thought, since you ask for them.
I dont know exactly what you plan to do with your future next car but you may want to think about it. Platform wise the Mustang is a good place to start drag racing if that is what you like to do. Mustangs have been using the same chassis for years and it suspension is lacking, dont expect great handling and a balanced car. What you do get is a car that has lots of proven setups (parts) to purchase to go fast and lots of bone head garages know all about them.
The 240sx on the other hand has a refined chassis and suspension that support great handling. The setups for horsepower are not exactly cut and dry like the mustangs but if you dig around you can meet lots of goals.
Another big deal is auto insurance price the 240 will win hands down.
Cops also love giving tickets to mustang owners.
Good Luck with your next car purchase.
I dont know exactly what you plan to do with your future next car but you may want to think about it. Platform wise the Mustang is a good place to start drag racing if that is what you like to do. Mustangs have been using the same chassis for years and it suspension is lacking, dont expect great handling and a balanced car. What you do get is a car that has lots of proven setups (parts) to purchase to go fast and lots of bone head garages know all about them.
The 240sx on the other hand has a refined chassis and suspension that support great handling. The setups for horsepower are not exactly cut and dry like the mustangs but if you dig around you can meet lots of goals.
Another big deal is auto insurance price the 240 will win hands down.
Cops also love giving tickets to mustang owners.
Good Luck with your next car purchase.