Possible to do a setup like this ?

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PulsarDet
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Since my car does not run yet, and I need to find a way to tune my ca18det bluebird ecu or run a stand alone.

I was looking to find a way how to setup every thing out, the easy way.

For exemple I don't have any power steering it's manual

Also I would like to remove the second butterfly thing, and maybe a few sensor if possible. ( I know most probably loose a few lbs of torque by doing so but on a 450hp setup I think it won't hurt much )

Stick to the bare minimum but still be drivable.

The car will be 50% drag racing and 50% street use.

For now I have T3-T4 turbo, 4x650cc injector,regrind cam with 9.2mm lift and 272 durationJE Piston + Pauter rod'sCometic head gasket.3 in full exhaust no cat with magnaflow mufflerPhantom grip lsd, rebuilt transmission.Custom 4 puck clutch.Z32 maf.

If you have any suggestion it's the time. Thank you guy's

And sorry for my bad english.For those who are running stand alone, do you have any suggestion, motec,stock ecu, megasquirt ect.
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None of the parts you listed will get you the power you are talking about.

Unless you are planning on running some rediculous boost levels you will need the wind that motor up to get those numbers, 264s will likely run out of breath before then.Your stock rods are a serious liability at those kind of revs so figure aftermarket. Stock pistons are pretty stout but above 300hp I would suggest forged650cc injectors would work if you had six of them, start looking at 1000cc squirts if you looking for that kind of power support with just four.

I am really not trying to piss in your cheerios I just want to get some info on you so I can help. You say "I want 450hp". What's the most powerful thing you have driven. Please don't get defensive, people who would judge you based on what's under your right foot have issues of thier own they are covering up. I have driven a 400hp car and it is kind of scary. If your current vehicle spins the rollers at 150hp and this will be your first build perhaps something more down to earth would be better for the moment. The higher the power the less margin for error in tuning and driving. 300hp is a lot more forgiving than 450hp.

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Has for the moment has we speak I did forget their is already JE forged piston in the engine and I am running pauter rod's, running also a cometic head gasket , for the information the fastest car I own bad a few year ago was a 75 corvette with a strocker 383, ran 475hp and 485 lbs. That was a a cool car, the meanest I did try is a chevel 72 454 with blower setup had more than 800hp that **** was scary.

Looking back at my invoce the cam are 9.25 mm lift with 272 duration sorry!

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Just about any standalone will do. You just need to look at all of the different options and decide which is best for you.

I'm running an SDS and I'm quite happy with it.

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if u want 450 id sell that setup u got and go with an rb25. a ca at 450 would be fun but id be scared to drive it just cuz i wouldnt want it to break with all those expensive parts in ya know? put the money towards the rb instead and ull be well off and u get sell those parts in a heart beat

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Since my ca18det setup is FWD, I don't think any way how to install a RB serie engine, if it was for a 240sx that would be no problem since the swap has been done a few time.

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PulsarDet wrote:Has for the moment has we speak I did forget their is already JE forged piston in the engine and I am running pauter rod's, running also a cometic head gasket , for the information the fastest car I own bad a few year ago was a 75 corvette with a strocker 383, ran 475hp and 485 lbs. That was a a cool car, the meanest I did try is a chevel 72 454 with blower setup had more than 800hp that **** was scary.

Looking back at my invoce the cam are 9.25 mm lift with 272 duration sorry!

Back to topic ! Modified by PulsarDet at 6:28 AM 7/15/2007
That's much better, I would sy bigger injectors an a standalone would be about all you need. What size is the turbo you have?Is your car by any chance 4WD, some of those cars were, at least in Japan, don't know about export models.


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I am not exactly sure what is the turbo size, so far it's a T3-T4 hydrid with a .63 housing and should be enough to suply the 450 hp mark, but still, if all the setup goes well I may go with a BB unit maybe a GT series turbo.

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For the power level you want an A/R .63 would be about as small as I would go. What's the compressor .70?

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This is so far what I know of the turbo it.s .63 Ar and compressor is .60. This the compressor diagramhttp://www.blaastperformance.c...p.jpg

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This is so far what I know of the turbo it.s .63 Ar and compressor is .60. This the compressor diagram, I bouth it new for 450$ tx in.I don't mind changing the turbo later on.


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I think it will run out of steam, you are falling off the efficiency island pretty fast near 400hp, might want to think about a 70series compressor.

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ive got a megasquirt for sale if your interested, its set up to run for the CA18det

200 and its yours, along with all the ford ignition stuff except for the crank wheel/sensor.

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a 50trim t3/t04e is capable of 500hp max so should see 450 easy peasy:) compressor a/r makesno odds really to power output its the trim of the turbo you want to be looking at. as i say 50 trim t04e compressor is a beauty.

also you dont need a stand alone ecu just remap the std or get something like nistune. the cams should be fine too.

for information im going to be running a gt3040r on my new set up with 260x10.25mm cams and i expect over 500hp so duration isnt everything;)check out my rr figure in the sticky and that was on std exhaust cam with ca16 inlet cam (same as ca18 exhaust) and a gt28rs

the rest of it looks fine to me except transmission...i think youll mash it:(

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Will see if the transmission will hold the power, has we speak I use a phantom grip lsd, the transmission has 0 milles on it, new bearing, new syncro. I hope to run a 350hp without any trouble on the transmission, wait and see I guest.

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themadscientist wrote:None of the parts you listed will get you the power you are talking about.

Unless you are planning on running some rediculous boost levels you will need the wind that motor up to get those numbers, 264s will likely run out of breath before then.Your stock rods are a serious liability at those kind of revs so figure aftermarket. Stock pistons are pretty stout but above 300hp I would suggest forged650cc injectors would work if you had six of them, start looking at 1000cc squirts if you looking for that kind of power support with just four.
the only part of that that resembles anything true is about the rods and pistons. sorry but the rest is just rubbish


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