possible purchase; advice needed

[tramp_drift240]

a friend of mine had a ka-t setup in his s14, but now has an s13 coupe shell he's gonna swap an ls1 into, so hes selling his turbo stuff from the s14.

this is what he's got, and im wondering if i should seriously consider buying from him. HONEST opinions, please.

-s15 t28 turbo-ebay manifold, uncracked-o2 housing and downpipe-feed and return lines-oil pan with return bung-370cc's-tuned s14 ecu-safcII-turbo timer

he said all id need is the front mount, a t-fitting for the oil feed, and a harness converter to hook up the s13 harness to the s14 ecu.

is that a go, or a no-go.

-discuss-

oh, and hes willin to sell me all that for a thousand smackers.
Modified by tramp_drift240 at 5:02 PM 8/22/2008

[r3v_v3ng3]

you didn't mention the price

[nissanfanatic]

I do a different method for oil feed.

Depending on what oil feed line you have, I would use the auxiliary port on the oil filter tree that to the right of the normal oil pressure port. It prevents the T fitting from breaking, which I had two experiences with. To be more exact, the BSPT to NPT adapter broke, and it broke flush with the filter tree surface. I had to remove the tree, and use an easy out. I eventually bought a stainless steel adapter, but I also removed my autometer pressure sender unit from the T. Even without the sender unit, the whole T system seems rather weak IMO. The setup I use now doesn't seem like it will break.

If you drive the car hard, like you should, you may also want an oil cooler.

[tramp_drift240]

I do a different method for oil feed.

etc, etc, etc, etc

If you drive the car hard, like you should, you may also want an oil cooler.

yeah, i dont really like the t-fitting stuff either. i saw this sandwich adapter that gives you extra sending ports, goes between the filter block (what it screws to) and the block.

and i was considering finding/getting the port block fabbed up, an oil cooler setup, and a filter relocation kit. but that just made me think about how big my oil capacity would be.

oh, and i added the price. 1k.

[abc123omg]

that setup looks close to mine except i had a FMIC, piping, and a sr t25 instead.

for a grand thats really not bad at all. ifyoure looking to run 8psi, that setup is great. what i did was i sold my safc and got an emance tune. runs great. i have about 240 to the wheels =) if youre in tampa, let collin at racing integration do the work, he knows his ka-t's! he did mine and it runs really well.

[tramp_drift240]

nah, im not in tampa. if i end up getting all that stuff, ill be getting a front mount and whatever else.

and actually, when he had it on his s14 he was peaking at 12psi with it.

with a bigger turbo, more boost, a tune and an safc to play with, i could end up with more than 240, right?

i need more responses before i hand this dude a grand, haha

[nissanfanatic]

Yes.

For some reason, I thought your SN was "Tampa" drift240. hehe

[tramp_drift240]

yeah, i wish. i dont like west virginia.

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i know there are ka-t gurus here somewhere.

[480sx]

Heres the way i look at your situation.

You got a pair of s13's(i think?) and your looking at buying a turbo setup meant for a s14. Your ECU is not going to work with your wiring harness, so thats gona be a PITA. In addition, it seems like he wants to much for it.

Ebay manifold - 150(ebay)O2 housing + DP - 150-200(ebay)SAFC2 - 150 usedtapped oil pan - 50 bucks (MAYBE)Turbo - 250ishTimer - who knows, ill say 50 bucksTuned ECU - ??? You wont be able to use it without swapping wiring harnesses.Oil lines - 60

So thats right around 850-900, not counting the ECU. Hes asking a fair price for it but its not something to jump all over. If you can talk him down a hundred bucks or so, then sell the ECU you would be in it pretty good.

Im in VA if you ever need some help, NOVA. Not a very far drive from WV depending on where you are in location to the boarder. Got a full shop, and a pro fabricator and a stupid amount of experience with the Ka-T.

[tramp_drift240]

arent there harness adapters that'd make it so i can plug the s13 harness into the s14 ecu?

and im on the west side of west virginia. though i do come to va fairly often.

[WDRacing]

The SR T25 at 12 psi is a heat pump...keep it set to stock to avoid detonation. It's not a bad deal IMO. But I'm no fan of the T2 bottom mount setups...like not even a little bit. They are inefficient and limit your ability to upgrade. If you are content to run 8 psi and don't have goals that reach past 250hp then sure...it's a good deal. But boost is addictive and you'll be tired of 8 psi pretty quickly. Or you can invest 1200+ bucks in a BB GT series turbo...which IMO is a total waste of money when a Hybrid turbo can be had for $500ish and make more power.

In the end it's personal choice and finances that really effect your decision.

WD

[GTR PrYdE]

The SR T25 at 12 psi is a heat pump...keep it set to stock to avoid detonation

WD

the guy is selling a s15 bb t28, which i see sell for 400 average, i'd go for everything but the ecu, and get your own ecu setup, so if you could talk him to 700-800 w/o ecu i think that'd be a deal

[480sx]

Oh yea i forgot that had the BB center cartridge. Pretty good deal then, i would offer 900 and see if he takes it.

[tramp_drift240]

alright sweet.

and yeah its a t28 not 25

keep in mind, this isnt gonna be my main turbo kit. im just getting this to pass the time and have fun with some boost before i get all the REAL parts im wanting. then ill be selling the stuff for chump change.

im planning on getting the PB topmount manifold, gt30r probably, etc. i just dont like the thought of having sweet Kais, lookin fresh, with a slightly upgraded ka.

plus its a good deal, right?

[neverlift]

yeah, i dont really like the t-fitting stuff either. i saw this sandwich adapter that gives you extra sending ports, goes between the filter block (what it screws to) and the block.

and i was considering finding/getting the port block fabbed up, an oil cooler setup, and a filter relocation kit. but that just made me think about how big my oil capacity would be.

oh, and i added the price. 1k.

the thing with the t fitting is to bring it away from the motor, inserta barb fitting and run about 3~6" of oil line to another barb fitting and install it inot the t

it goes block>barb>hose>barb>T

the best thing I see is the s15 turbo, IDK if its worth a grand, I still dont have that into the t25 and the t3 setups together.....

[tramp_drift240]

a grand for all the stuff listed?

are they not decent components?

[480sx]

Its a good deal dude, you get your moneys worth for sure. Its just not a killer deal to take out a second mortgage on your house for. Id try to negotiate him down another 100 or so and see what he says.

[tramp_drift240]

yeah ive got like 550 or so now, ill see if i can drop it to like 8 or 850.

i would like to have it though.

id still need to find some low priced front mount stuff, BOV, etc.

[tramp_drift240]

lemmie throw a "this or that" question on you guys.

in the long run, would it be better if i just got the forged internals ive been wanting to build my KA with before i swap it into my new coupe?

that way, when i get the turbo stuff i was originally (and still) wanting to get for my setup, ill know my motor can handle it?

itll be about the same price for the bottom end rebuild and the turbo stuff from my friend...

[neverlift]

ok first, this is you build, not ours.......

with that out the way we need more and better info like wd said if you dont plan to upgrade its a decent deal.

However you have already said you plan to upgrade. Not sure why, you must have the flow...

IMHO a t28 is a bad *** turbo so thats better than your average t25, my t25 ran very well at 11psi daily for close to a year till the feed line blew off, IC was never hot to the touch, I'd assume the bb t28 is a bit more efficient, lol, so you may end up loving it once all the turbo bolt ons are done.

also note t2 isnt whats up, T3 FLANGE ftw! I did not believe wd but now I dew hows the cat wd

[tramp_drift240]

yeah i know its my build, but i can still ask for some opinions.

im not wanting to stick with said turbo setup at ALL. i just thought itd be some instant gratification since im yearning for some boost.

im wanting to get like. CP pistons and ams or crower rods. clevite bearings, another cometic, arp main studs, and the freeze plugs and oil pan gasket since they were leaking previously.

as for the turbo setup, im shooting to get the peakboost topmount with downpipe with a gt30r.

i dont like wasting money on the dilly-dally stuff between stock power and fun power, y'dig?

[zerepdivad]

Eh i see no reason not to. Just do it temporarily it makes driving the car a lot more fun even on low boost. I'm boosting my ka right now with stock internals on a .50 trim and it holds up fine except my clutch is slipping already since i upped from 5psi to 9psi. This setup is only temporary so i can build my other motor with decent internals over the winter and still have some fun with the car this summer.

[WDRacing]

also note t2 isnt whats up, T3 FLANGE ftw! I did not believe wd but now I dew hows the cat wd

He's good

[480sx]

[neverlift]

no I dug man, I went t25 for like 190 bux so I knowwhat you mean, it was cheaper than any other upgrade I had planned. I was going to get an light weight pulley or fly wheel and this deal landed in my face. The t3 setup I have a few trades and 30bux I think, I owned all but turbo manifold and outlet/down pipe for this setup.

He's good

LAME you already showed me that one, or is it a summerly affair

still a badass kat!

Come to florida and take the umpteen my neighbor has

[tramp_drift240]

well, after the next paycheck i get, i should have enough for my motor stuff.

so i think instead of getting the partial turbo setup my friends got, im gonna get the pistons, rods, bearings, and assorted gaskets that i'll need.

then when spring rolls around, ill be able to get all the REAL stuff im wanting to make good power. anyone agree?

sounds better that way, instead of spending money on stuff im gonna replace eventually anyway, i might as well spend the money on something that will actually help my case once im able to get the turbo stuff ive been set on for months now.

but keep this thread alive, because i like talking in the ka-t section.

[480sx]

You wont regret that move at all, i can tell you that. By the time you wait till next year you can save up enough cash to throw together a real setup. T3 flange baby, the only way to fly.

With built internals you can max out a t3/t4 50 trim and have a stupid fast/fun car. Or maybe step it up to a Borg Warner S2xx or something baller.

IMO the best way to go is delay, delay, delayed gratification on a turbo setup. This gives you time to make good choices, save money, learn more, and do things right. I made a mistake of jumping all over a kit(cuz it had to be fast, now!) and it turned out to be a screw up.

[DMan II-40]

hey give your friend my email. [email protected] I am interested in some of that stuff.

[tramp_drift240]

he's only selling everything together. plus youre in CA.

why're you only doing a 248/232 swap, instead of 248/248?

next weekend im ordering cp pistons and brian crower sportsman rods.

[DMan II-40]

yea from what i read 248/232 has more low and mid power. and the guy wrote that he liked 248/232 the best out of all the different cam swaps