Poof ... Right in the kisser!

[stebo0728]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0WTcTzN96s

Dont know where to start on this one ... looks like the cop was overwhelmed ... but not sure if he was justified in his action ... any thoughts?

[Gabes13]

I guess it's kind of the same thing as resisting arrest, no? If an officer stops you for any reason, your'e supposed to abide their reason. Anything else would be insubordination. What that girl should have done, is pull her friend from behind. You shouldn't put your hands on an officer for any reason.

[bigbadberry3]

110% with the cop. Simply put, you just don't resist.

[AZhitman]

^ This.

Hitting ANYONE is rarely a good idea. But the notion that this cop did anything wrong is beyond ludicrous.

What if she'd grabbed his gun? Sorry, you wanna tussle like a man, you might get KTFO like a man.

I'm VERY protective of women, but once you decide you're gonna throw blows or shove a man, especially an authority figure, you're simply a combatant, not a woman.

Gotta love all the moronic people who piss and moan that cops are racist, power-hungry a-holes. Then when one gets shot, the story changes. Hmmmm. Think, people.

[stebo0728]

I tend to agree ... I am largely protective of females in general ... believe men were put on this earth to take care of them, not in a sexist way mind you ... but anyway I see your point about what if she went for his gun ... and after the punch I didnt see her anywhere around him ... I think she got the message LOL ... didnt help that she was black and he was white tho ... shouldnt matter and any race person woulda got decked, im just saying it didnt help the whole PR angle of things ... had the girl been white I dont know if we'd have seen it on youtube to be honest

[n00b240]

LOL that video had me on the floor. But all laughing aside. I believe both sides were clearly off their rocker. She was getting a citation for jaywaking. That would ruffle anyone's feathers. Regardless of race, teenagers could get more ruffled than any grown person, especially for jaywalking. Lots of people Jaywalk, I jaywalk, had I been stopped and given a citation for that, I would have been angry with the cop wastin time giving me a ticket.

By jaywalking, if I wasnt careful, I could have killed myself. Speeding in my car, I could kill myself, ok point taken. Give me the ticket. Whats different in this situation is she clearly wasnt after his gun, She pushed her friend and the cop apart. She puts a distance between herself and the cop, but then the cop reels her in and gets in a lick that Floyd WILL receive when he fights Manny. I felt like that was a bit much.

In the past when I have been stopped by police, for looking like a person of interest, I gave the cop my DL. And with him sittin in his car for 10 mins with me sittin on the curb waiting for him to get done 3 more cops in their cop cars showed up. So had I decided to tussle with this man, there were 3 more for backup.

So where was this cop and his backup? There were tons of people around him, the situation could have gotten WAY out of control. Throwing a punch like that, is grounds for that cop potentially gettin hurt by a throng of bystanders just waiting for something like that to happen, in which the cop would have to pull out his gun seriously hurting someone else.

While I do agree with the cop in terms of trying to get the woman under some handcuffs, as she broke the law by jaywalking, broke another law for resisting, and then yet another for assaulting an officer. He could have controlled the situation much better. I would have preferred to see a taser being used, or better yet, a call for backup before the situation got like this.

I just cant get enough of the cop by himself doing this with all kinds of people standing around watching. RISKY. Not sure how the sequence plays out after the deck, but her friend is nowhere to be found, and the silly girl is STILL resisting arrest

[stebo0728]

I considered the same thing, this could have turned out real ugly for the cop, but if you listen closely it sounds as if the crowd was partially on the cops side, i heard a few jeers like "b*tch settle down" and such from a few of the bystanders, unless I heard wrong, but he definitely lucked out in not getting mobbed ... agreed the jaywalking thing is a bit crazy, but i guess the law's the law ... probably more of a revenue source than safety issue ... just like speeding tickets, revenue driven, not safety driven

[dusred]

In this case a taser would have been in order. That cop was totally alone and there was a crowd of people there. That cop was majorly at risk and I would have acted the same.

[stebo0728]

I dunno ... If I was the cop, being WWBAA (white while blacks are around) I dont think I would have bothered ticketing a black person for something as minor as jaywalking ... sorry thats not meant as racist or bigotry, and its not meant to say ALL blacks are hostile to whites, and I know alot of whites are hostile to blacks ... Im just saying I dont think I would have risked it unless it was something serious ... just throwing it out there ...

[AZhitman]

In this case a taser would have been in order.

Wrong.

Not per the continuum of force. Sorry.

[WDRacing]

I think the officer waited to long to establish himself as in-control of the situation. The use of force is difficult to gauge when you're the one using it. You don't want to use to much, but lack of control leads to bad situations. I understand why officers have what some think is an attitude problem. It's just the need to be in control of the situation because anything can happen at any time, this just clarifies how something simple can become OOC and quickly.

When the girls first appeared uncooperative I would have pulled the Taser. Especially considering the environment he was in.

As far as them being women...psssht, act stupid and get treated as such. I don't care what sex you are, be a decent human being FFS. I firmly believe people should be treated according to how they act. Those two girls committed felonies and should be held without bail for striking a Peace Officer.

I'd hate to bring a racial epithet into this, but there is a huge difference between a African American and the N word. Wanna act ignorant? Get treated as such. I have no sympathy for stupid.

[dusred]

In this case a taser would have been in order.

Wrong.

Not per the continuum of force. Sorry.

Just read your posts in the General Chat thread. I stand corrected.

[AZhitman]

No need. You were right on the money otherwise.

[turbonxsx]

Damn if i resisted a police officer i would expect too be shot or hit with a taser gun and the stupid f*** who pull the race card need their heads smashed in... because they are not obviously using em...