POLL: Which of these is the worst?

[jungleboogie]

so i was thinking this morning, while having a deep conversation with le john, on how everyone gets so worked up when someone bashes on a 2.5 or a cvt... (ie. if you were gonna fix it up, why'd you get a 2.5 or a cvt?).

so here's the poll and which is more bothersome to you folks?

feel free to chime in and mention other things and share your opinions. for now, i figured only the altima community would join, but kept the poll options generic for the sake of others that would wanna chime in. if need be, i can also add more poll options, should the general consensus deem it necessary.

personally, i'm not a 2.5 basher per se, but don't really understand fixing up a 2.5 (unless we're talking something drastic like f/i)... the issue with the cvt? well i needed a car quick, had no time to wait for the manual to be shipped in so i copped out and got the cvt. and i also wanted the coupe at first, but the dealership had trouble finding one in white on black so i opted for the more practical sedan.

as for all the bashing, i think the reactions are more fun to read about than anything. i can really see the passion and love that you guys have for your cars and kudos to that. otherwise, people are just stating opinions, some maybe even trolling, but at the end of the day it's just someone's opinion. and at that point it's just all relative. but for the rest of you guys, what really boils your blood?

[headhunt3r]

I really hope you don't get bashed for this thread, but I find the bashing about engine and transmission to be pretty stupid myself. I guess I'd be bashed for both considering I have the 2.5S with CVT, but guess what, I still love my car, and I come to this forum because everyone here loves their cars as well. It's as simple as that.

[PHENOMenalVinyl]

its very annoying when the people with 3.5's say that we should just go buy a 6 cyl idk about everyone else but if i had the money the time of i would of but i didnt so im stuck. And if i want a turbo ill get it itll be unique and no maybe it wont be faster than a turboed 6 but w/e. I hate that they say this stuff and its annoying .....its like me saying hey well u spent more than you would have on a wrx and thats a ton faster. Well not exactly that but that was for example

[Mr.Coupe]

Great thread dude. It gets to me when people talk about the CVT Vs. 6-speed. It really doesn't bother me about engine because the person has what they have for their own reasons. They wanted it, like stated before it would have been a PITA to get one shipped to the dealer, they didn't have the color combos they wanted or they needed a car fast and they had to accept what the dealer had. I have a CVT 6-banger. Key word in that sentence is CVT. I love my CVT and I live in Los Angeles were all freeways are huge parking lots in the morning while going to work and afternoon while going home from work. I have a 98 VW Jetta VR6 Turbo that's stick and I was tried of worring about shifting in traffic. Like I said my A/C is a CVT Turbo and I have no problem with it at ALL. It gets me from A to B and if I need to run BALLZ OUT it does that just fine . Those are my opinions.

Ricky C.

[Curtieson]

Agreed...the transmission is what gets to me the most...it is one thing to state an opinion...another thing to rip someone apart about it. If it isn't something you would have done...then it is a good thing you didn't do it!

I got the 2.5 for MPG sake...it is a daily driver...and I wanted something that looked KICK A$$!!! The 3.5 and 2.5 have the same look...the 2.5 would cost me $150 less a month (gas and car payment). If you didn't need the 100 extra HP...wouldn't you have done the same?

And manuals are obnoxious...automatics don't give you the feel...each has a flaw...each has a major plus side...how can you rip on the other?

[jungleboogie]

I really hope you don't get bashed for this thread, but I find the bashing about engine and transmission to be pretty stupid myself. I guess I'd be bashed for both considering I have the 2.5S with CVT, but guess what, I still love my car, and I come to this forum because everyone here loves their cars as well. It's as simple as that.

wait, why would i get bashed? i didn't mean this poll as an opportunity for more bashing, i just wanted to see what problem you guys had with which type of bashing, that is all

and don't get me wrong, i drove the 2.5 as well, i mean, honestly, it's no 3.5, obviously, but i think it does well for what its intended.

Great thread dude. It gets to me when people talk about the CVT Vs. 6-speed. It really doesn't bother me about engine because the person has what they have for their own reasons. They wanted it, like stated before it would have been a PITA to get one shipped to the dealer, they didn't have the color combos they wanted or they needed a car fast and they had to accept what the dealer had. I have a CVT 6-banger. Key word in that sentence is CVT. I love my CVT and I live in Los Angeles were all freeways are huge parking lots in the morning while going to work and afternoon while going home from work. I have a 98 VW Jetta VR6 Turbo that's stick and I was tried of worring about shifting in traffic. Like I said my A/C is a CVT Turbo and I have no problem with it at ALL. It gets me from A to B and if I need to run BALLZ OUT it does that just fine . Those are my opinions.

Ricky C.

hey yea, can't argue with la traffic. i mean everyone has their own reasons for their purchases and their own means to make whatever they purchased, work.

btw on a side note, how's the cvt handling the turbo? did i mention that i'm jealous of your turbo?

[Mr.Coupe]

btw on a side note, how's the cvt handling the turbo? did i mention that i'm jealous of your turbo?

The CVT is handling the turbo VERY well. As a matter of fact I just got off the phone with Tim at SFR 5 minutes ago. I will be down in San Diego in a few weeks so we can move the PSI up.

Ricky C.

[jungleboogie]

The CVT is handling the turbo VERY well. As a matter of fact I just got off the phone with Tim at SFR 5 minutes ago. I will be down in San Diego in a few weeks so we can move the PSI up.

Ricky C.

that's great man, hope all goes well! couple questions, i assume your internals are still stock? are there any particular concerns for running boost with stock internals?

and... why did you turbo a cvt? you should know that if you wanted to fix up a car, you should've gotten stick

lols i'm just kidding man just trying to shed some inappropriate humor on behalf of this thread. but seriously, will your internals hold up ok?

[Mr.Coupe]

The internals will hold up to roughly 550HP give or take if I remember correctly. There are I believe 2 stick shifts out there that are running 9 PSI and still runining strong. I'm running only 7 PSI at the moment. For a CVT the main concern is if the CVT will hold up, But mine is holding up DAMN well.

Ricky C.

[NissanAltimaGuy]

I choose transmission type. Expressing your opinion is fine, but the constant bashing isn't conducive to a healthy online community.

[lilojoj]

i didnt want to settle for anything other than 3.5 superblack 6mt. i got a job a year in advance just so i could make a fat down payment and waited 4 months so it could be shipped in from nevada. i dont bash on people with 2.5s because its hard to come up with that kind of money, especially when were still young(got the car when i was 18). i just wanted a 3.5 that bad. i dont bash on people with cvt because some just dont want to learn stick or didnt have the time to wait for a 6mt or had no other option available. i just always wanted stick so i waited and even paid my friend to learn on his crappy 67 bug. the only thing that bothers me is when people with cvts race people and then bash on the other driver for his bad shifting skills. a monkey can drive a cvt so dont bash on stick drivers that cant shift as well as your automatic shifting(not talking about me lol just in general). so to sum it all up just dont bash on anybody. an altima is an altima and we all enjoy driving whichever car we have.

[mikegtr06]

an altima is an altima and we all enjoy driving whichever car we have.

my 2.5 cvt will never be fast..... i just want it to sound good and look good.

[Curtieson]

my 2.5 cvt will never be fast....

Meanwhile on the Scion tC message boards...

Quote » So guys, last night I was racing this Civic, I was pushing a 12 second FLAT 0-60 and blew the doors off of him, I love car![/quote]

[jungleboogie]

i didnt want to settle for anything other than 3.5 superblack 6mt. i got a job a year in advance just so i could make a fat down payment and waited 4 months so it could be shipped in from nevada. i dont bash on people with 2.5s because its hard to come up with that kind of money, especially when were still young(got the car when i was 18). i just wanted a 3.5 that bad. i dont bash on people with cvt because some just dont want to learn stick or didnt have the time to wait for a 6mt or had no other option available. i just always wanted stick so i waited and even paid my friend to learn on his crappy 67 bug. the only thing that bothers me is when people with cvts race people and then bash on the other driver for his bad shifting skills. a monkey can drive a cvt so dont bash on stick drivers that cant shift as well as your automatic shifting(not talking about me lol just in general). so to sum it all up just dont bash on anybody. an altima is an altima and we all enjoy driving whichever car we have.

well in essence, you claiming that a monkey can drive a cvt would fall under the same category of transmission bashing, would it not, regardless if said in retaliation.

so what you're saying is that there are auto drivers that bash on manual drivers because they can't race "properly"? i'm not sure if the form of bashing you are referring has ever occurred but i would think that it's probably just a scapegoat for the manual driver's loss. or maybe it wasn't bashing, but it may have seemed like it to the individual that lost :dunno

and i would also venture out to say that there are also quite a lot of people who drive sticks, that also bash on those who can't race with a stick. driving stick and racing stick are two totally different entities (whoa almost spelled enti-titties) which i'm sure anyone who has driven a stick can own up to. all that to say that the majority of bashing i've experienced from the manual drivers are pretty much from their own manual drivers, not auto drivers.

[LongBeachCoupe]

All of this is essentially worthless banter IMO... Not from you guys, but bashing as a whole...

Its an ALTIMA, not a 370z... so anyone whose gonna talk down to me because they have the MT, or a 3.5, well tell it to the judge fellas, because your still driving a FWD altima.

NICO has a large following of 240s, and "project cars"... Do I beat on them because their paint looks like its off the side of a house because its so old? Or that their interior is garbage?

I personally choose CVT because I would rather not have the hassle of being REQUIRED to shift all the time.... I have a 2.5 because of insurance for the most part and gas for the 2nd half, and my inability to control myself with speed for the 3rd...

Theres always a "bigger" dog on the street that will make you feel like a sissy driving a Yugo, I like my car, and to those who have some sort of judgment or comments to say... Please, take your comments and put them in the circular file, and go spit into the wind.

[jungleboogie]

All of this is essentially worthless banter IMO... Not from you guys, but bashing as a whole...

Its an ALTIMA, not a 370z... so anyone whose gonna talk down to me because they have the MT, or a 3.5, well tell it to the judge fellas, because your still driving a FWD altima.

NICO has a large following of 240s, and "project cars"... Do I beat on them because their paint looks like its off the side of a house because its so old? Or that their interior is garbage?

I personally choose CVT because I would rather not have the hassle of being REQUIRED to shift all the time.... I have a 2.5 because of insurance for the most part and gas for the 2nd half, and my inability to control myself with speed for the 3rd...

Theres always a "bigger" dog on the street that will make you feel like a sissy driving a Yugo, I like my car, and to those who have some sort of judgment or comments to say... Please, take your comments and put them in the circular file, and go spit into the wind.

haha what i also find interesting is that the very people who always have something negative to say have yet to visit this and share a piece of why they feel the way they do.

[lilojoj]

well in essence, you claiming that a monkey can drive a cvt would fall under the same category of transmission bashing, would it not, regardless if said in retaliation.

so what you're saying is that there are auto drivers that bash on manual drivers because they can't race "properly"? i'm not sure if the form of bashing you are referring has ever occurred but i would think that it's probably just a scapegoat for the manual driver's loss. or maybe it wasn't bashing, but it may have seemed like it to the individual that lost :dunno

and i would also venture out to say that there are also quite a lot of people who drive sticks, that also bash on those who can't race with a stick. driving stick and racing stick are two totally different entities (whoa almost spelled enti-titties) which i'm sure anyone who has driven a stick can own up to. all that to say that the majority of bashing i've experienced from the manual drivers are pretty much from their own manual drivers, not auto drivers.

okay my bad on the monkey thing. i just meant its not difficult to drive an automatic. and after thinking it i think the whole straightaway races are dumb and is pretty much a money thing. more money is more power. real races are on the tracks and they have autos there too and nobody bashes on them. so automatics are pretty much the new thing now so we shouldnt bash on mts or autos.

[jungleboogie]

okay my bad on the monkey thing. i just meant its not difficult to drive an automatic. and after thinking it i think the whole straightaway races are dumb and is pretty much a money thing. more money is more power. real races are on the tracks and they have autos there too and nobody bashes on them. so automatics are pretty much the new thing now so we shouldnt bash on mts or autos.

then with that being said, what's your opinion on people who drive autos like a manual using the tip-tronic?

[mcheddadi]

this a nice thread

[lilojoj]

then with that being said, what's your opinion on people who drive autos like a manual using the tip-tronic?

i think thats cool and how all automatics should have that option available. kind of like one of those crazy fast formula one cars. im not too sure on how they work or anything but i think they have a clutch for like first gear or something and then the rest is pretty much automatic. i used to drive an automatic car and used to pretend i was driving stick lol. didnt even have tiptronic just had d1,d2,d3,d haha. and now the gtr is too cool for stick so nobody can bash on autos now

[NissanAltimaGuy]

Its an ALTIMA, not a 370z... so anyone whose gonna talk down to me because they have the MT, or a 3.5, well tell it to the judge fellas, because your still driving a FWD altima.

Yup! Pretty much right on the money there. I wanted something I could take trips in and a daily driver. At first I thought about the G coupe, Mustang, 350Z....But it wasn't practical for me right now. The Altima coupe has some get up and go, though I wouldn't call it fast. It does however have a trunk!

[mikegtr06]

Yup! Pretty much right on the money there. I wanted something I could take trips in and a daily driver. At first I thought about the G coupe, Mustang, 350Z....But it wasn't practical for me right now. The Altima coupe has some get up and go, though I wouldn't call it fast. It does however have a trunk!

and a little backseat.

[PHENOMenalVinyl]

Meanwhile on the Scion tC message boards...

haha found out the other day......WERE faster than them!! but god i raced the kid then he wouldnt leave me alone kept botherin me after i hate those cars

[DSilva2089]

i cant stand the 2.5 bashing i mean i love my car and so what if i want to do some things to it to make it sound nice or make it a little faster then stock its up to me right why cant we just help each other out insted of saying "dont waste your time why dident you just get a 3.5" i mean theres cars out there that cost the same as th 3.5 that are way faster but i dosent matter thats what you picked and its all good... theres cars that the 2.5 are faster then and theres cars that are faster then the 3.5 thats just the way things are i mean where i live there alot of TCs running around and well i think a 2.5 is ok for that you just got to pick your battles i mean i know ill never be as fast as a Z or a GT but s*** man i dont think the 3.5 is the fastest thing around so why cant we all get a long and help each other out.... ok im done now